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Old 31st August 2015, 08:20 AM
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^Britney lip-synchs through the whole concert... During Perfurme she used a different track (usually she uses the studio one) where Sia sang the backing vocals. This version as far less processed and the arragment was very beautiful... People from exhale watched a 15s video from Instagram showing the part where you could hear Sia's vocals on the harmonies and started spreading that Britney was lip-synching to Sia's vocals until it actually made it to the media... After that she went back to the boring studio version
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Old 2nd September 2015, 03:30 AM
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To be totally fair, Ayu only wrote 18 of her songs totaly alone, and to this day only fully produced one track, that happens to be an interlude... Even if she writes every single lyric she ever releases, she has never been much credited on the music aspect of her releases either...

Producers who worked with Britney frequently say she actually put a great amount of imput over the final result on the recording sessions and more than one actually told she gets less official credits over her creative imputs than she should. She also has been credited as the one who came up with the idea for videos like Baby one more time, Toxic and Womanizer.

Her first writting credit was during the Oops I did it again album, Dear Diary, a pretty shitty song.

Britney was taking control over her music during 2001, during the production of her Britney album, where she has writing credits on half of the tracks. For this album she also had her boyfriend as a producer and is credited as the one responsable for the concept.

During In The Zone she had writing credits on 9 tracks and was credited as a producer.

If you take the tracks released between In The Zone and Blackout she has writing credits on every song but Do Somethin', and even if she doesn't have writing credits on the later, she co-directed the music video.

She has only 2 writing credits during Blackout, but she's credited as the album's only executive producer, what means she was the one hiring the producers and musicians... In other words, she basically decided the album direction, aesthetic and sound. And just to remember, this is her most critic acclaimed album to date.

She was producing one album by herself, writting all the songs on it, The Original Doll, but it was canceled by the label, you can find several demos from the album around the internet.

After that she had her breakdown and conservationship, and we can't really know how much freedom she has to actually have creative freedom over the final result of her releases.

She has 2 writing credits on Circus, but is again credited as the one responsable for the album concept.

Femme Fatale has 1 song with writing credits, but on the overall album credits she is credited as the one responsable for the concept, as a writer and as a composer.

Britney Jean has that very suspicious writing credits on every song (even so, some of the songs really do sound like the stuff she composed before), but she is also credited as the A&R and the one who decided the concept.

Other than that, BoA and Selena Gomez had recorded songs co-written by Britney (Look who's talking and Whiplash)

There's a rumour she only re-signed with her label after Britney Jean if she could have more creative control over her releases... We can't know for sure if that's true or not, but the fact that she is recording new songs (she has been seen with different producers frequently on the studio) without an announced executive producer can mean she will take the role once again.

How much of that is true and how much isn't? We can't know for sure... But there's also rumours saying Ayu is just this cute idol who pretends to write songs crafted by professional songwritters... How can we know again?


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Not in the sense that she didn't have any
control over her lyrics, music, production, etc... aka the musical side of
things -- something Ms. Spears didn't and still doesn't seem to have any
interest in except for only a few song she CO-wrote.
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Old 3rd September 2015, 07:53 AM
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Ayu has always micromanaged her career since A Song for XX came out. Even if she wasn't composing or creating her dance moves, or whatever, she was still in the producer's chair, picking things she liked, and what she didn't like, coming up with ideas for her PVs, designing her stages and her costumes. She still had the power to pick and choose what she liked, and throw away the things she didn't like. (Holy crap, SURREAL lyrics, much?) She was in absolute control of everything except for Avex forcing her to release A Best, but even there, she took used that to rebel against them by the cover photoshoot, and by re-recording some of the songs. All of which was her choice to do since she was in creative control.

She's in creative control at all times. Brittney Spears may have creative control of her career now, but back when this comment was made by Ayu, she didn't.

Y'all can throw shade of on Ayu for not achieving the same international success Britney Spears had, but let's be honest. Ayu worked a lot harder and probably deserved international success more than Britney did. The only reason Ayu didn't is because she's not a white, blonde girl speaking perfect English and at the time, didn't have the same monetary output Britney had behind her.
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Old 3rd September 2015, 11:22 AM
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I'm honestly pissed about this thread. I mean, what's its purpose? Bashing Brit obviously. No one ever said Britney would be a great artist, but no one can't deny that she's a great performer making her job.
And I really can't read that bullshit about Ayu being more in control about her career at the beginning than Britney. Guess who picked her songs? Britney. Guess who was credited in the songwriting since her second album? Britney. Guess who came up with the idea behind the video for baby one more time and some more? Britney. Guess who pushed through that she didn't wanted to be promoted and introduced to an audience of children but to teenagers instead? Britney.
Furthermore saying that Britney didn't worked hard is just disrespectful. She released from 1999-2001 three albums and in 2003 another one, having during 1999-2002 also two North America tours and two world tours and in 2004 another world tour which was just insane by having 54 dates all around the world in just three month (which originally was planed having 101 dates in about six month but got cancelled because Britney was too exausted). Not to forget that the ooops world tour also had about 100 dates in about seven months. And she also made a movie, which was also a lot of work even when it was real bad.
I think that was a lot of work for just 5 years and no wonder the girl went crazy afterwards when never having just one little break and rest for a while.
So do me a favour, before talking shit and bashing someone just because you got some "information" out of gossip magazines get your facts straight.

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Old 3rd September 2015, 01:03 PM
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Yeah, this thread has no point. I.m tired with these discussions about ayu being over, britney being over, everybody being over. Just listen to the music. At the end of the day, what will you remember? How ayu got divorced, lost some sales, being hated by some people with no life...or will you remember her art? Do you think that any of this matters? Just take the damn songs and judge them by the feelings they awake in you..don.t hate it just because *its another ayumi hamasaki song*. And its not just ayu. People just like to hate every popular singer.

Sometimes I have the impression that if some of ayu.s best songs were sung by some fresh singer people would be like *this song is awesome*, or *wow, this is innovative*. But nope. If its ayu, every song is bad. Same with Britney. Circus is awesome, but I.m sure people were way more interested in her conservatorship.
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