'M(A)DE IN JAPAN' out June 29th + 2015 TA TOUR (TA ver.) - Page 16

MessiahofSilence · #1 19th May 2016, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

Angel isn't horrible but Lelio and XOXO are... hm.. did they have a budget of 200yen?

I'm sure the budget was like, a half eaten sandwich and an RC Cola.

Yumsushi · #2 19th May 2016, 05:50 AM

I mean to each his own and all but Im amazed you think Lelio is worst that Angel. I mean Lelio was halfassed but Angel was an embarrassing joke shot in some shady ally. I would consider Lelio a masterpiece compared to Angel. The only way I think Ayu approved it is that she must've been high on said half eaten sandwich and rc cola

SayukiChoco · #3 19th May 2016, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi

I mean to each his own and all but Im amazed you think Lelio is worst that Angel. I mean Lelio was halfassed but Angel was an embarrassing joke shot in some shady ally. I would consider Lelio a masterpiece compared to Angel. The only way I think Ayu approved it is that she must've been high on said half eaten sandwich and rc cola

Agree. Angel PV was so embarrassing. I only watched it once and never want to watch it again in my life.

MessiahofSilence · #4 19th May 2016, 07:20 AM

In what universe is the XOXO PV better than Angle's?
At least the Angle PV had a somewhat decent concept and it's execution was what lead it to be terrible. But XOXO and Lelio were bad, especially considering that the songs were bops and deserved much better.

Chris85 · #5 25th May 2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

Angel isn't horrible but Lelio and XOXO are... hm.. did they have a budget of 200yen?

I like Lelio PV a lot actually. I don't think it looks cheap. She's also very sexy in it. Angel on the other hand with her overacting is the worst.
XOXO is so bad it's good.

axmish87 · #6 25th May 2016, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris85

I like Lelio PV a lot actually. I don't think it looks cheap. She's also very sexy in it. Angel on the other hand with her overacting is the worst.
XOXO is so bad it's good.

Ugh I just can't stand that video because she wears a white underpants in it and it really is distracting but not in a good way
The other outfit is better where she dances but oh my those PVs...
Merry go round is the best one PV and song wise from that album

truehappiness · #7 19th May 2016, 06:01 AM

Angel at least kinda looked like they tried a teeny bit but ultimately it was kinda lame overall.

That era needed better PVs. Not XOXO and not Lelio. Terminal and Pray.

truehappiness · #8 19th May 2016, 06:31 AM

Hmm, I think of the new PVs, Lelio/XOXO were the most awkward. But Angel wasn't that fantastic either, just seemed like they put more of the budget on Angel while the others were filmed with like a handicam and GoPro they rented.

pimenta · #9 19th May 2016, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

Hmm, I think of the new PVs, Lelio/XOXO were the most awkward. But Angel wasn't that fantastic either, just seemed like they put more of the budget on Angel while the others were filmed with like a handicam and GoPro they rented.

Tbh Angel's PV bothers me way more than Lelio or XOXO...

truehappiness · #10 19th May 2016, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pimenta

Tbh Angel's PV bothers me way more than Lelio or XOXO...

I'm thinking of it from a general perspective and not really talking about personal preference. Angel's PV looks like they tried to do something (and failed) while for XOXO / Lelio, it was kinda just "HEY WOO LET'S DO SOMETHING".

truehappiness · #11 19th May 2016, 07:29 AM

I think back and Angel is cheesy but it's at least a bit of effort.

XOXO was like "???? SELFIE CAM???" while Lelio was like... European dancepop 90's exercise video, haha.

//ABEST · #12 19th May 2016, 07:32 AM

i actually like Lelio and Angel PVs as they are, Lelio brings some PlayStation dancegame into my mind but it's fun to watch. XOXO was horrible, overacting and Lico really pisses me off

truehappiness · #13 19th May 2016, 07:37 AM

I think you could tell she was 'lost' during that era just by watching the PVs. Music was fantastic though as always.

xLuna&1LOVE · #14 19th May 2016, 08:20 AM

^ Oh come on. Ayu is alwaýs 'lost', but everything on Colours was all about having fun. She was not lost at all: she knew exactly what she wanted to do.

She worked with new people. She tried to do something else, because she simply liked it. It did not even matter to her if the public would love the new sound. She just did whatever she felt like. She did not expect it would charge high or that the album would sell well. And it didn't. But at least she got Colours in her discography.

orbitalaspect · #15 19th May 2016, 09:04 AM

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^ Oh come on. Ayu is alwaýs 'lost', but everything on Colours was all about having fun. She was not lost at all: she knew exactly what she wanted to do.

She worked with new people. She tried to do something else, because she simply liked it. It did not even matter to her if the public would love the new sound. She just did whatever she felt like. She did not expect it would charge high or that the album would sell well. And it didn't. But at least she got Colours in her discography.

I loved the XOXO video. I thought the Lico parts were a bit cheesy, but it was a cute and fun PV. And the selfie cam bit was catchy. My only wish was that the selfie cam had been done in the club, and that there was some transition between a scene camera and the selfie cam (similar to how they did NaNaNa).

truehappiness · #16 19th May 2016, 08:49 AM

I understand that, but it was extremely obvious IMO that Colours was fun BUT it was because she was trying to run away from Japan that we got such an album.

I like the album, but it has "I am trying to avoid something" written all over it.

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I’ve slipped up many times. I’d feel depressed but crawl back up every time. But this time, only this time, I couldn’t fix myself. I had no excuses and I couldn’t shrug things off either. I think I wanted to reset somehow. I felt I could run away a little from the Ayumi Hamasaki who had done such a stupid thing by leaving Japan. But, in the end, I realized things aren’t that easy. I started living somewhere new, got a new partner and worked in the creatively blessed environment of LA. Gaining new inspiration from those things, I continued making my music. But it constantly felt like something was out of place. I decided to go back to Japan in order to figure out what was out of place —

You couldn’t be truly happy if you weren’t a slave to your music like when you were in Japan. You realized that is the most important thing to you?

That’s true. I feel I managed to express such a conviction in this year’s Midnight Circus tour. The decision “I won’t run away from here again. I’ll stay here forever.” From the moment I started creating Midnight Circus during last year’s Countdown Live, I plunged forward with Midnight Circus without any hesitation. I felt I had returned my former self. I could decide everything quickly. I hadn’t felt like that in a long time.

Translated by tenshi no hane.

Andrenekoi · #17 19th May 2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

I understand that, but it was extremely obvious IMO that Colours was fun BUT it was because she was trying to run away from Japan that we got such an album.

I like the album, but it has "I am trying to avoid something" written all over it.

Translated by tenshi no hane.

Still believe this is just her saying what her fandom wanted to hear...

SunshineSlayer · #18 19th May 2016, 07:58 PM

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Still believe this is just her saying what her fandom wanted to hear...

I tend to agree. Musically I thought Colours was a good, new direction for her to be expanding towards. But yeah, the PVs for it are just embarrassing to watch.

Andrenekoi · #19 19th May 2016, 09:46 AM

It was the first time she went on directing pvs, even if with the help of more people that have no experience on it. The final result obviously wouldn't be perfect, but it's easier for her to have insight on the direction of other people once she did it herself sometimes.

truehappiness · #20 19th May 2016, 10:00 AM

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It was the first time she went on directing pvs, even if with the help of more people that have no experience on it. The final result obviously wouldn't be perfect, but it's easier for her to have insight on the direction of other people once she did it herself sometimes.

I think it was more of a "let's all direct the PVs" so the dancers were also part of it which is why it was directed by "A TEAM" or whatever.

IMO, she could probably direct some pretty badass PVs on her own but there was probably a shoestring budget for these PVs on top of a few other voices being part of the fray.