[Namie Amuro] The 96th Thread ♛ Queen's Farewell 〜Compilation, Tour & Retirement〜

[oaristos]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89

If you don't have a good reason, stop complaining.

People are free to complain here, as long as it's related to the current topic and they're not being disrespectful to the artist and/or other members. Let's avoid shutting other people down just because they have different opinions.

[Toniayu123]

Originally Posted by oaristos

People are free to complain here, as long as it's related to the current topic and they're not being disrespectful to the artist and/or other members. Let's avoid shutting other people down just because they have different opinions.

Post of the year.

So far I'm not enjoying the new songs, I don't care about PV's since I don't watch them. Thanks god she retires leaving an amazing legacy aside everything since 2014.

[thinkingoutloud89]

Originally Posted by oaristos

People are free to complain here, as long as it's related to the current topic and they're not being disrespectful to the artist and/or other members. Let's avoid shutting other people down just because they have different opinions.

there is a difference between a being reasonable and being just plain stupid. i think the comments above showed very well that some popele don't think about what is actually happening and why.

[oaristos]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89

there is a difference between a being reasonable and being just plain stupid. i think the comments above showed very well that some popele don't think about what is actually happening and why.

And who do you think you are to call other people "stupid" for disagreeing with you? That is literally one of the most disrespectful things you could say in a forum.

I think you're the one not thinking before commenting. Be nice to other people.

[thinkingoutloud89]

Originally Posted by oaristos

And who do you think you are to call other people "stupid" for disagreeing with you? That is literally one of the most disrespectful things you could say in a forum.

I think you're the one not thinking before commenting. Be nice to other people.

Hmm still seems like you did not understand a thing. Everyone is entitled to an opinion - but there is a difference between "urgh, I just don't like it because it is so lazy" and "I don't like the new MV because she does not even move her mouth". But still, the latter is just weird mind-vomit of an opinion. As its is a visual medium, you can very well analyze if something is there just because they wanted to or if they wanted to underline something. It is pretty clear the director wanted to go for a very pure image here where nothing distracts to much form the lyrics itself. I haven't read any comment which explains why the video would have been better with lip-synch and what value it would have added to the actual video.

Just voicing something like "blah i hated it" is very school-kid-ish.

[Gustavopc]

Yeah, it bothers me a lot, makes it look recycled to me, like they shot a Visee CM and decided to reuse it putting a song over it and applying slow motion to the shots. But that's my perception and I'm sorry if somehow it offended you, but to me it looked that way, not to say lazy.

[ahtka-chan]

^you should be used to recycled shi-t, since that's everything Kumi has been doing for the last seven years music and PV-wise.

Also, I still didn't understand why people were comparing Kumi with Ayumi and Namie, considering Namie and Ayumi were huge in their peak, while Kumi has never reached the same heights.

btw, loving everything about the BEST so far.

[Gustavopc]

Originally Posted by ahtka-chan

^you should be used to recycled shi-t, since that's everything Kumi has been doing for the last seven years music and PV-wise.

[ExodusUK]

I hope when Koda Kumi retires, some people here can find enough decency to say something nice about her.

[oaristos]

Just a reminder: this thread is dedicated to Namie Amuro, not Koda Kumi. There's no reason to tear Kumi down to prove a point.

Let's keep the discussion friendly, guys.

[voltron]

I like all of the new songs we've heard so far enough, but none of them really seem worthy of a farewell. Finally is my favorite, but it still pales in comparison to some of her best ballads.

For the videos, Finally is a huge disappointment because it feels so lazy. It seems like a collection of commercial clips, or making-of photo shoots, interspersed with a couple of cut scenes here and there. Showtime is probably one of the most quirky videos she's done in a LONG time, so I appreciate that. Do it for love she's so genuinely happy looking, which is nice -- but overall it could be any video from the past 8-10 years for her -- just her typical dancing around, looking like she's having a good time being girl, type video.

[ExodusUK]

My feelings are kinda hurt by the whole "finally" concept..like damn, we knew you looked miserable and uninterested most of the time, I feel dumb for being a fan of someone who was counting down the years to retire.

[ladyluthien]

Originally Posted by ExodusUK

My feelings are kinda hurt by the whole "finally" concept..like damn, we knew you looked miserable and uninterested most of the time, I feel dumb for being a fan of someone who was counting down the years to retire.

I feel the exact same.

[Cahz-]

Originally Posted by ExodusUK

My feelings are kinda hurt by the whole "finally" concept..like damn, we knew you looked miserable and uninterested most of the time, I feel dumb for being a fan of someone who was counting down the years to retire.

Tell 'em!

[JackieRos]

Am I in the right thread?

Our queen is retiring and everyone is going crazy.

[hud]

I love the PV for Showtime!

[haraiso]

Oo lord. This past page and a half lmao. Keep it cute y'all.

Love how fun Showtime is though. And she's gorgeous in Finally.

The thing I don't like about Do It For Love is how the 2nd half of the video totally doesn't fit with the first half. It's pretty much faux-concert footage just shoved in lmao. Like, she's even wearing a tour-style dress. Why??? What was the concept??? lol

[ShiniTakashi]

I think you guys are misinterpreting “Finally”. She’s not saying she’s glad to be over, peace out. The lyrics are about someone who has achieved everything they’ve dreamt of and are now able to finally say they’ve done what they set out to do. She no longer has to dream and can finally relax and enjoy her life as a “normal” person.

This whole “Namie always looks miserable” comment has always irked me too. Acting like she doesn’t care about what she does or her fans compared to others.

[Corvina]

Originally Posted by ShiniTakashi

I think you guys are misinterpreting “Finally”. She’s not saying she’s glad to be over, peace out. The lyrics are about someone who has achieved everything they’ve dreamt of and are now able to finally say they’ve done what they set out to do. She no longer has to dream and can finally relax and enjoy her life as a “normal” person.

This whole “Namie always looks miserable” comment has always irked me too. Acting like she doesn’t care about what she does or her fans compared to others.

Hm, yeah, but isn't that exactly the point?
I mean, nobody of us really knows, what her dream is or was. But with Finally and the lyrics it feels like singing is a job for her, not a passion and /or her life. Looking at the lyrics, her private life is more important. And I'm stating that without judging, cause that's ok.
Maybe it's just the fame she doesn't like about it - we will never know, unless she talks about it.
Just take the second line of the song "The day I've kept praying for has made its start at last" - that is a really strong thing to say.
And you can inerpret it both ways, positive and with a negative connotation for people hearing it.

[tokyoxjapanxfan]

Yeah I don't think there's any reason to read into the title as her finally being able to get out of singing. More as she's finally at the point in her life where she's happy with what she's achieved and can end on good terms.

She wouldn't have gone through all the trouble of re-recording songs if she was just over everything...