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Old 29th December 2004, 09:04 AM
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I can almost gaurantee Ayu lipsynched at the beginning of I am..(the vocal only part) on Arena tour 2002 :\ When she sings..her mouth does not match the sound...I've watched it many times....well I'm not 100% sure....and all of the sudden her vocal sounds so different right after the beginning of I am...
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Old 29th December 2004, 03:30 PM
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I think she must have lipsing at least once. Example, when she had a cold or something like that. But yeah, Ayu mostly never lipsings at all. In concerts, sometimes, she stops singing a start dancing (Trauma) and she communicates a lot with her fans and often scream all kinds of stuff to the audience.

I doubt she's the only one not lipsinging though.

Most Chinese artists lipsing though. Especially Jolin.
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Old 29th December 2004, 03:33 PM
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I can almost gaurantee Ayu lipsynched at the beginning of I am..(the vocal only part) on Arena tour 2002 :\ When she sings..her mouth does not match the sound...I've watched it many times....well I'm not 100% sure....and all of the sudden her vocal sounds so different right after the beginning of I am...
Well, you can't really say that's lipsinging because, first of all, you can't even see the real Ayu. You see her in the big screen. And obviously, they shoot this part like a video and you lipsing in a video. They only played the video and after that, Ayu appeared and sang for real.

Although, 'Greatful Days' in A MUSEUM anybody? That sounded like lipsinging.
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Old 29th December 2004, 04:02 PM
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More people being bias again. She lip synched on Angel's Song in whatever concert I watched it on...

How do I know? Take anyone who has the common sense of knowing how one's breath rate interacts with singing. She bounces around, spins, and dances all over the place while still singing at a completely normal pace with no breaths that you can hear. For those who are DDR players and like to sing a long, do WakaLaka on heavy mode and sing the entire song without messing up your vocals once. "but I'm not a professional singer and she is". Doesn't matter. Professional or not you can't manage a steady breath rate without being ultra althetic and even then it's difficult to manage.

So push you "i luv yuo ayu KEKEKEKEKE ^_____________^ shes too perfect!! KAWAII!" aside and open your eyes. Lot's of singers lip sync whether you believe it or not.

She doesn't lip sync her entire concert of course not, but songs that require way too much movement, i.e; Angel's Song, she does.

Granted she can somewhat run across the stage singing Evolution's chorus, she still fuzzes out a few times when doing that and then somehow can sing just perfectly on que with Angel's Song? k...

Just because an artist lip sync's doesn't mean they sync'd it to the album version of the song. Do a pre-recording at rehearsal of the artist just standing and singing so when it records, it records the actual live version and then is played back when him/her performs so it still maintains its 'live' sound just that it isn't live.

This is almost as pointless as saying her tears are real all the time during her concerts. Memorial Address is a perfect example of that. Fake tears? Of course. Tear glands tell all 90% of the time, her glands weren't swollen then when the music picks up she's suddenly super happy again?

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Old 29th December 2004, 04:12 PM
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The DVDs and VCDs UNDERGO EDITING. Why don't anybody realise this simple fact? A lot of people complain that Ayu can't sing really good live. So Avex has to edit the DVD to make them sound good. I myself wouldn't want to pay 40 bucks for a DVD to hear Ayu going off tune.
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Old 29th December 2004, 04:17 PM
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Then don't pay and download.

Have you been to one of her concerts? "no" okay then don't say anything until you're there.
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Old 29th December 2004, 04:35 PM
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LX_Ayu, you're taking all this way to seriously. You don't have to be mean. There will always be "bias" fans, but you can't do anything about it. I believe she always lipsings once in a concert. Like your example, ANGEL'S SONG and also Greatful Days too. There's pratically nothing wrong with that when you're in movement. But Ayu rarely lipsings. Especially in Encores. So we don't need to complain. I don't think Ayu has a bad voice at all.

And about fake tears? I seriously doubt it is fake tears. How the hell can you sing a song and cry if the song doesn't mean a thing to you? All Ayu song were written by Ayu herself. That's why it's emotional for her. Isn't Memorial Address a song for her dad? And A Song Is Born a song about what happen on the Sept. 11? There's always a reason. I doubt she'll cry for nothing. Try faking crying on a song. I doubt you can't.
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Old 29th December 2004, 05:03 PM
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Then don't pay and download.

Have you been to one of her concerts? "no" okay then don't say anything until you're there.
I have. Osaka Feb 2004. Arena Tour 2003-2004. What's your problem anyway, this is just a discussion. Don't need to get so worked up.
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Old 29th December 2004, 05:49 PM
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You can kind of tell she doesn't normally, simply because she goes off-key.
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You wanna know why artists lip-synch? Because some snot-nosed little brats always whine when the performance is sub-par. So, to stop the complaining, they mime so it sounds the same as the album version, or a pre-recorded version for a live. But then once they do that, the whining comes back because they didn't sing live. Well make up your minds! Stop being so paradoxial. It's getting on my nerves.

No, I'm not meaning just users here, I mean everyone. Yes, I'm stereotyping everyone just as you guys stereotyped American artists. "Blah, blah, blah American artists aren't as good as Japanese artists." Well way to not be so biased. Jeez. NOT EVERY AMERICAN ARTIST IS THE SAME, SO STOP STEREOTYPING THEM AS SUCH. I highly doubt that you all have more respect for every Japanese artist than you do for every American artist. I know you didn't say EVERY, but you said "Japanese artists." So I interpreted it as thus.

asongforXX, just because an artist is screaming during the performance, doesn't mean that they're not lip-synching. Their microphone can still be on for them to yell and scream and whatnot while the track is still running in the background.
opaltanyacho, there is no law in Japan not allowing lip-synching. I don't even know where you heard that kind of crap. Or why you even believed it.

And no, I'm not being mean. So don't give me that. It's unoriginal and don't you think, by now, that if I really cared, I would've taken it into consideration when I post?

Remember, just because she goes off-key doesn't mean it wasn't a poorly pre-recorded version of the song. I'm sure there are many things that none of you, nor myself, know about when it comes to lip-synching. So don't you all go around acting like you know the facts about when someone is and when someone isn't when it's not always that blantantly obvious.
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Old 29th December 2004, 06:21 PM
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I'm not worked up, I'm just know what makes you mad because your arguements and counter arguments are still full blown bias and retarded and the added fact that not everyone on this forum can say how perfect she is or how great she is. She's still one of my favorite artists but that doesn't mean I have to be like "OMG@$?#@$?! AYU!!! SO KAWAII!!!!!@!@!"

Am i complaining that she lip syncs? No. First people slander other artists for lip syncing and then suddenly when it comes to Hamasaki it's okay? That isn't a bit skeptical?

I don't think she has a bad voice either, if she did, I wouldn't listen to her music.

asongforXX, why are you saying "lip singing"? Is there some other sort of singing? Hand singing? Foot singing? Elbow singing?

You seriously doubt she fakes tears? Then show me some real swelled tear glands when she sings Memorial Address, and do explain how she just suddenly turns happy. Just like when she sings Who... Also take in note how many times she practices those songs and rehearsal to get it all perfect. Think she cries every time she sings them during rehearsal? Just suddenly has a nervous breakdown and starts pouring tears then it vanishes and "oh I'm happy again"

Back on topic about lip syncing, she's probably lip sync'd more than what people figure and just does a good job at it. And if she doesn't then more power to her, but she doesn't really do any consistant tours. Like how NIN would go aroun the US performing in different cities/states. When she has a concert she has 1 or 2 a year and only in 1 location. Or does she take Arena Tour to Japan, China, and other cities/countries/providences? If and that's a big IF she doesn't lip sync at all then there's a good reason why she doesn't need to. Because she doesn't do as many live tours as other artists.

Last and not least, about not changing bias people, of course I can't change them but I can uproot them thru posts like this and when commenting on an opinion of a song, I can use their bias ways for my advantage
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Old 29th December 2004, 06:33 PM
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I don't think she has lip-synched. Watching her lives, it's pretty apparent that her voice has a lower and different quality than her recordings.
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Old 29th December 2004, 06:38 PM
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You wanna know why artists lip-synch? Because some snot-nosed little brats always whine when the performance is sub-par. So, to stop the complaining, they mime so it sounds the same as the album version, or a pre-recorded version for a live. But then once they do that, the whining comes back because they didn't sing live. Well make up your minds! Stop being so paradoxial. It's getting on my nerves.

No, I'm not meaning just users here, I mean everyone. Yes, I'm stereotyping everyone just as you guys stereotyped American artists. "Blah, blah, blah American artists aren't as good as Japanese artists." Well way to not be so biased. Jeez. NOT EVERY AMERICAN ARTIST IS THE SAME, SO STOP STEREOTYPING THEM AS SUCH. I highly doubt that you all have more respect for every Japanese artist than you do for every American artist. I know you didn't say EVERY, but you said "Japanese artists." So I interpreted it as thus.

asongforXX, just because an artist is screaming during the performance, doesn't mean that they're not lip-synching. Their microphone can still be on for them to yell and scream and whatnot while the track is still running in the background.
opaltanyacho, there is no law in Japan not allowing lip-synching. I don't even know where you heard that kind of crap. Or why you even believed it.

And no, I'm not being mean. So don't give me that. It's unoriginal and don't you think, by now, that if I really cared, I would've taken it into consideration when I post?

Remember, just because she goes off-key doesn't mean it wasn't a poorly pre-recorded version of the song. I'm sure there are many things that none of you, nor myself, know about when it comes to lip-synching. So don't you all go around acting like you know the facts about when someone is and when someone isn't when it's not always that blantantly obvious.
Very well said. I totally agree with you. Especially with the first part.
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Old 29th December 2004, 06:41 PM
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I seriously doubt it is fake tears. How the hell can you sing a song and cry if the song doesn't mean a thing to you?
You gotta admit the Memorial Address Perf. at Arena Tour was extremely exaggerated... I think its a plus when artists cry at their concerts, but 75% of the time I think Ayu is faking it. She should really try to be more natural with her performances... If the song doesn't choke you up as it should, then you should focus on singing the song, and not shedding tears.
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my guess is she has lip synched before. and picklecookies needs a life outside of the internet.
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I'm sure Ayu has lipsynched before. Though I think that on one of the countdowns, even though she had a terrible racking cold, she still went on with the concert and that's why her vocals were terrible--which just goes to show that even if Ayu is in the worst condition, she still doens't disappoint her fans and sings anyways, up until the minute she loses her voice.

So rest assured, Ayu won't lipsynch unless she really, really needed to.
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[QUOTE=LX Ayu]Like how NIN would go aroun the US performing in different cities/states. When she has a concert she has 1 or 2 a year and only in 1 location. Or does she take Arena Tour to Japan, China, and other cities/countries/providences? If and that's a big IF she doesn't lip sync at all then there's a good reason why she doesn't need to. Because she doesn't do as many live tours as other artists./QUOTE]

DOME TOUR 2001 was over 4 places (Fukuoka, Nagoya, Osaka, Tokyo)
Countdown Live 2001-2002 (2 concerts)
ARENA TOUR - 21 location according to yesasia
STADIUM TOUR 2002 -12 concerts , 7 locations (Hamasaki Republic)
CDL 02-03 - 2 concerts
Teamayu - 16 concerts, 5 locations
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A Museum - 5 concerts, 1 location Divine Ayu
ARENA TOUR 2003-2004 - 31 concerts, 12 locations URL=http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1003800902/code-w/section-karaoke/version-all/did-169]Yesasia[/URL]

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asongforXX, why are you saying "lip singing"? Is there some other sort of singing? Hand singing? Foot singing? Elbow singing?
WTF are you talking about?

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You seriously doubt she fakes tears? Then show me some real swelled tear glands when she sings Memorial Address, and do explain how she just suddenly turns happy. Just like when she sings Who... Also take in note how many times she practices those songs and rehearsal to get it all perfect. Think she cries every time she sings them during rehearsal? Just suddenly has a nervous breakdown and starts pouring tears then it vanishes and "oh I'm happy again"
Gee, i think it's obvious. When you do a concert for your fans, yes, when you sing a song that means much to you, you can cry. But do you think that she'll keep on crying on the whole show? Even while singing Trauma? Moodswitch on songs. She won't cry on a happy song.

You can think it's fake. I don't.
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^I don't either. Sometimes, when I sing Ayu's songs and know what they mean, I can start to cry. But then after I'm done, I just won't feel so sad anymore. *shrug*
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