Ayu's taxes and income for 2004

[lolo66]

Yay for Hikki (in a way) but Hikki needs a smarter accountant, know what I mean.. hehe

oh and on that report they even dish out the numbers for the rest of the Utada clan.

[yamogi]

Originally Posted by nmskalmn

The figure quoted in the first post is correct. I think what yamogi means is that Ayu would have earned more money in 2004 if she had released an album. As it is, she only released 3 singles in 2004: Moments, INSPIRE, & CAROLS. MY STORY came out on December 15 so the income from that will appear in her 2005 earnings.

The major source of her income, even in years when she was releasing more CDs, is product endorsements.

that what i want to mean, i hope nobody is misled. orginally, a singer's income is not mainly from CM and tour, is form the copyright of selling, the copyright of creating(original copyright) , copyright of producing, copyright of singing and copyright of writing lyric/song. (in ayu's case, income only from CM or tour.)

the amount of money that can earn is :copyright of creating(original copyright)>copyright of selling>copyright of producing>copyright of writing lyric/song>copyright of singing , unlucky, AYU WON'T get the money of the first 3, AYU ONLY CAN get copyright of singing and copyright of writing lyric/song which is very little compared with the first 3, that is the reasons why AYU earn so LITTLE(she should earn MORE the HIKKI).

WHY this happen? It is all because AVEX, AVEX is the ONLY company in japan that own 100% copyright of all songs, products etc. that is the reasons why people dislike AVEX soooooo much, ALL artists that work in AVEX don't have the copyright of songs( NOT even 1%). in contract, HIKIKI and B'z have 100% copyright of their songs, so even they don't release any CD(eg.B'z), they even have MANY income from copyright.

AVEX is a very bad company , it cause AYU to have only that poor income, I really want AYU to change to another company(however she can't, because she is 100% possessed by AVEX in the following few years, even she change to another company, she can't sing)

[lolo66]

Yep. That's very true and unfortuantely true for most artists around the world. License fees is where the real "music money" lies. That's why it's a good investment to buy the copyrights of the Beatles' songs.

It was a good thing that Hikki was led into the music business by her family, mainly her dad, who knows the business and has good connection of people in places, so Hikki was quite as taken advantage by label companies and managements, when compared to Ayu and most of the Avex artists.

But then again, I always say it might be good business arithmatics that make the tax numbers lower not necessarily lower earnings. ^^

[AyuGAME]

She is rich
but i feel sorry because her income is decrease every year
and this version is different with one news that i know

[Manross]

omg! she paid like 1/3 of her income to govt tax...THATS a big sum, very big..but anyways this figures dun relli matters to me..go ayu!

[Catzi]

Originally Posted by Brittany

O.O And Utada just released an English album, Collection CD and a single and made 9 million from THAT? Wow. I'm blown away ..

Exactly how I feel.

[ohsixthirty]

ayu's income had decreased a lot...she's practically a pauper now, haha! nah, she's still going strong, especially since this didn't even include an album.

[bernardation]

i'm happy to see that chihiro onitsuka is in the list too, she's great =D

[hiro]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

do artists in japan get paid by each cd they sell???
for example: they get paid Y50 for each cd n they sell 1,000,000= Y50M

No i heard they get paid a salary. They don't get royalties from every CD sale. In America, they do get royalties.

Also, i think if they write the lyrics or compose the song, they get bonuses as well.




BTW: why does everyone say American music isn't diverse? That's a pretty ignorant comment. Its pretty diverse. The people always complain about American (or western) music are the ones that are stupid enough to boil it down to "Christina and Britney".

Originally Posted by hiro

BTW: why does everyone say American music isn't diverse? That's a pretty ignorant comment. Its pretty diverse. The people always complain about American (or western) music are the ones that are stupid enough to boil it down to "Christina and Britney".

I'm with you on that, although I happen to like Xtina and Britney, people tend to ignore the greater portion of music in America when comparing to Jpop. It's so ironic because if an American can't accept American music, how can you go around saying others are closed-minded?

Back on topic, it was kind of shocking for me to see that only a few female soloists got over $1 million USD for 2004 considering how much they promote and stuff. I guess that goes to show that popularity doesn't necessarily translate into a boatload of money.
Ayumi definitely peaked in 2001. Just look at the number of photoshoots she did then compared to now; her visibility in that sense has decreased but she's still everywhere thanks to endoresments. She still earns alot compared to the general public so there's no reason to feel sorry for her.

[Halla]

j-pop artists seem to earn a lot less than artists from US/EU , which is a shame. Their record companies rip them off

also , I'm pretty she like the most rich people/celebs dodge some of the taxes . So in reality she's prolly earning a bit more than these numbers tell.

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by yamogi

that what i want to mean, i hope nobody is misled. orginally, a singer's income is not mainly from CM and tour, is form the copyright of selling, the copyright of creating(original copyright) , copyright of producing, copyright of singing and copyright of writing lyric/song. (in ayu's case, income only from CM or tour.)

the amount of money that can earn is :copyright of creating(original copyright)>copyright of selling>copyright of producing>copyright of writing lyric/song>copyright of singing , unlucky, AYU WON'T get the money of the first 3, AYU ONLY CAN get copyright of singing and copyright of writing lyric/song which is very little compared with the first 3, that is the reasons why AYU earn so LITTLE(she should earn MORE the HIKKI).

WHY this happen? It is all because AVEX, AVEX is the ONLY company in japan that own 100% copyright of all songs, products etc. that is the reasons why people dislike AVEX soooooo much, ALL artists that work in AVEX don't have the copyright of songs( NOT even 1%). in contract, HIKIKI and B'z have 100% copyright of their songs, so even they don't release any CD(eg.B'z), they even have MANY income from copyright.

AVEX is a very bad company , it cause AYU to have only that poor income, I really want AYU to change to another company(however she can't, because she is 100% possessed by AVEX in the following few years, even she change to another company, she can't sing)

yea i heard that everytime a song is played on the radio or an mv is played at like a music station the radio/tv company has to pay the artist/company a certain amount

also this is y otsuka ai earned so little.....she had like 5 singles n 2 albums btwn dec 2003-nov 2004!

shouldnt ayu's memorial address b included in the earnings for 2004 cuz she released it like in mid-december '03?

[hiro]

Maybe Ayu should start her own record label, even under Avex. Didn't Max once say she was good enough to be her own producer?

[Brittany]

Originally Posted by Hanazaki

That's a lot of tax dollars that she had to pay O_o

The more one makes, the more taxes they have to pay.
But 3 million for CM's and Touring? GAHHHHHHH ~ ! That is A LOT!
I'm curious to know how much she's made in album and single sales since she first started. That's the interesting facts

[rakoom]

very interesting, thanks for the info ;d

[yamogi]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

yea i heard that everytime a song is played on the radio or an mv is played at like a music station the radio/tv company has to pay the artist/company a certain amount

also this is y otsuka ai earned so little.....she had like 5 singles n 2 albums btwn dec 2003-nov 2004!

shouldnt ayu's memorial address b included in the earnings for 2004 cuz she released it like in mid-december '03?

I really doubt whether it is the REAL income, such as EXILE and orange range, they even NOT in the list, i really don't believe they will earn less then 300,000, in the case of EXEILE, they have several people, if the income is REAL, income per people is LOWER than the income of staff in avex(JP staff have about 60000 us dollar per yaer) !!!!! orange range(not avex artist) also, they sold 2,500,000 ablum but they even CAN'T GET 300,000!!!!!! THat don't make sence!!!!!

i don't think it is possible, it think they had tried to cheat in order to pay less tax(including AYU) as tax in JP is heavy

[PickleCookies]

Originally Posted by jasjasss

wow !! 2001 was the I AM right .. so rich !!

I am... was released on January 1, 2002.


I thought most of the money that artists earn is from concerts, and not from album sales?

[ayu_fan929]

well orange range only sold 2.5M albums this yr...mayb theyll b on this yr....i read in chinese newspaper that SMAP's Takuya Kimura fell from like #3 to like #10, he earned like US$1M last yr from tv shows/drama/cm's only

[Brittany]

Originally Posted by yamogi

i don't think it is possible, it think they had tried to cheat in order to pay less tax(including AYU) as tax in JP is heavy

No, it's the prices that are sky high. My friend that lives in Japan and goes to my school said the taxes in Washington (where I live) are HIGHER than in Japan. I'm not sure what the tax here is (hell, I hate looking at recipts) but it sure does cost a lot of money to live in Japan.

[ayu_fan929]

i think yamogi means cheating on the income taxes, like reporting less income so that they have to pay less tax...mayb not reporting earnings from writing music, or doing some cm or some shows etc.