I heard that Ayu has never lip synch, is that true? - Page 10

yys113 · #**181** 9th June 2005, 04:20 AM

All of you who said ayu have lip sync, can you prove it please? Don't tell me every artist has to lip sync at least once, who told you that? Are you the one in charge of playing the lip-sync audio during their performances? If not, sorry you don't know crap about what you're claiming.

I don't really like it when people are trying to sounds like they are pro in this area and say stuff like "yeah, they all do that....", "yeah, ayu did that for a few times", if you don't know for sure, don't sound so sure.

SunshineSlayer · #**182** 9th June 2005, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by yys113

All of you who said ayu have lip sync, can you prove it please? Don't tell me every artist has to lip sync at least once, who told you that? Are you the one in charge of playing the lip-sync audio during their performances? If not, sorry you don't know crap about what you're claiming.

I don't really like it when people are trying to sounds like they are pro in this area and say stuff like "yeah, they all do that....", "yeah, ayu did that for a few times", if you don't know for sure, don't sound so sure.

I agree. If Ayu lip synchs, then she is the best lip syncher of all time - and this is coming from someone who has seen her live. You usually can tell pretty easily when someone lip synchs.

There have been a couple of times when she has lip synched, but never for a whole song and the only times that she has that I know of, is because of some computerized effect that is on the album. Like at the end of I Am, the last couple of lines have a computer effect on her voice that she can't duplicate live, so she did lip synch that part of the song, but only because it was necassary.

elepop · #**183** 11th June 2005, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by yys113

All of you who said ayu have lip sync, can you prove it please? Don't tell me every artist has to lip sync at least once, who told you that? Are you the one in charge of playing the lip-sync audio during their performances? If not, sorry you don't know crap about what you're claiming.

Well, sometime, it's quite obvious. Ayu probably NEVER lip synch for a TV show or for an award show, which is awesome. But I think she have lip synch a few times (meaning 2 or 3) in her concert. Try "Greatful days" from A MUSEUM or "ANGEL'S SONG" from ARENA TOUR 2003-2004.

I to dislike when people try to sound like pros. Exemple, when "STEP you" came out, a lot of people said the song has very this, and the sound very that, and the whatsoever effects was this and that, and so on...

But I think those 2 performances was quite obvious. She most likely to lip synch after a big opening of a concert. The next song, she usually lip synchs to catch her breathe.

That is what I think. Maybe, she really hasn't ever lip synchs. Only Ayu knows.

#**184** 11th June 2005, 12:44 AM

damn, it's like people who argue she does, WANT her to lipsynch O_o

I don't see why it's so important, as long as you all enjoy her music, who cares.

elepop · #**185** 11th June 2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by y2687

I don't see why it's so important, as long as you all enjoy her music, who cares.

Well, we are in a forum so it's normal to argue...

hamasaki_edwin · #**186** 14th June 2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by a1strank

I can almost gaurantee Ayu lipsynched at the beginning of I am..(the vocal only part) on Arena tour 2002 :\ When she sings..her mouth does not match the sound...I've watched it many times....well I'm not 100% sure....and all of the sudden her vocal sounds so different right after the beginning of I am...

the key is "the type of mike she used"!when she sing i am,evolution,audience and unite! with the type of mike that was put on her ear her voice was very clear

addicted · #**187** 14th June 2005, 04:10 PM

ya she never did that b4.....i wondering u guys never hear ayu cds b4?
that is so much differences.if she did lip synch why those concert or live she was bad so why not just lip synch and unite , M some of the song of cuz is back up singer sing .
sigh.............blind

voltron · #**188** 14th June 2005, 05:10 PM

OK there are a few examples. Personally I think the thing she did in Korean was completely lip-synched. M sounded amazing, but it also sounded exactly like when I saw her live in CDL. And Boys & Girls was also amazing in Korea, but every other performance of it in the past few years has been far from nice sounding. She's been singing some older songs really, really well (Teddy Bear during Arena Tour)...but if she could still sing with the power that she used to, why is she bothering recording songs like she is now, with vocals that are fairly poor compared to how she used to sound?

ayuSgrl · #**189** 15th June 2005, 01:22 AM

i didn't see every ayu live.. but the ones i watched, i dunt remember she lip-sanched anything! but like others have said, BoA lip synchs ALOT! and when she came to D.C for a concert here, i went and she lip sanched ALL her 3 preformances that she did!! what a shame! i mena.. she came to preform for the FIRST time for her korean and non-korean fans, and there they see her lip synching!! soo sad! and the others didn't! u wonder why? -______________-

#**190** 15th June 2005, 01:25 AM

BoA also dances ... and this topic is also not about other artists.

PrismaticTears · #**191** 15th June 2005, 02:04 AM

A fanclub or something specifically asked BoA that if singing and dancing at the same time is going to water down the performance of both, they'd prefer if she lip-synched since they already knew that she could sing (hence why they bought those album thingies) and wanted to go see her dance. I have no desire to root out the news article about this so tough beans.

kristen · #**192** 15th June 2005, 04:21 AM

Ayu has never lip synched an entire song, that i do believe. But she has lip synched parts of songs, and if anyone thinks she hasn't, i'm sorry but that's just plain ignorance.

Brittany · #**193** 15th June 2005, 04:23 AM

I'd rather sound crappy than lip synch. People put their money into seeing their favorite artist live.

From what I heard, not a lot of artists lip synch in Japan, but there are some that do it.

firefox · #**194** 15th June 2005, 05:40 AM

lip synch is easier; as long as I enjoy the performance it doesnt matter to me at all

SunshineSlayer · #**195** 15th June 2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX

Well, sometime, it's quite obvious. Ayu probably NEVER lip synch for a TV show or for an award show, which is awesome. But I think she have lip synch a few times (meaning 2 or 3) in her concert. Try "Greatful days" from A MUSEUM or "ANGEL'S SONG" from ARENA TOUR 2003-2004.

That's because AVEX will sometimes dub over the original tracks before releasing them on DVD, but Ayu wasn't actually lip synching durring the concert. If you've seen the live TV broadcasts that were done on Sky Perfect TV of some of her concerts, you will hear that Avex went over Ayu original voice in a couple of her songs. (her voice wasn't THAT bad though, I think they could have left it alone in those couple of songs.)

SunshineSlayer · #**196** 15th June 2005, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ayuSgrl

i didn't see every ayu live.. but the ones i watched, i dunt remember she lip-sanched anything! but like others have said, BoA lip synchs ALOT! and when she came to D.C for a concert here, i went and she lip sanched ALL her 3 preformances that she did!! what a shame! i mena.. she came to preform for the FIRST time for her korean and non-korean fans, and there they see her lip synching!! soo sad! and the others didn't! u wonder why? -______________-

Yep, I just saw BoA a couple of days ago as well and you could tell right away that she was lip synching. When someone lip synchs, it's usually very apparent and doesn't need to be discussed whether the person is lip synching or not.

I saw Ayu live 2 nights in a row and I remember hearing slight differences. Like I remember on night 1, her voice cracked on one of the notes in Carols, but then in the second night, it did not - so unless she recorded multiple versions to lip synch to live - she doesn't lip synch. Almost every speculation of lip synching is Avex dubbing over the original track.

I do think she may have lip synched that performance in Korea though. Not really suprising though since lip synching is very accepted there, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by firefox

lip synch is easier; as long as I enjoy the performance it doesnt matter to me at all

But for me, part of a singers performance, is to actually SING.

And it is possible to dance and sing at the same time, it's certainly not as easy, but BoA herself does it quite often in her Japanese performances(even though the dancing isn't AS full out as in her Korean performances.) Also check out Namie's tours. She dances the hell out of them and her singing doesn't suffer very much.

SunshineSlayer · #**197** 15th June 2005, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by voltron

She's been singing some older songs really, really well (Teddy Bear during Arena Tour)...but if she could still sing with the power that she used to, why is she bothering recording songs like she is now, with vocals that are fairly poor compared to how she used to sound?

Well some people just sound better live in general than they do on CD. Take Maki Goto for example, I think her live voice sounds much better than her CD voice. And the same with Ayu, I've always preferred her voice live than on her CDs.

edited to add: Sorry! I should have put all 3 of these replies into one long post.

PrismaticTears · #**198** 15th June 2005, 09:17 AM

Namie's got skills though and you can tell she sings live since her voice will fluctuate when she jumps up and down or does a sudden move that changes her breathing.

Overall I don't particularly care who does it, just saying that they do, I know that they can and will sing well on a good day. Now if they're a talentless tramp like some other 'artists' (parishiltonwtf) then I'm somewhat bugged.

Ibitsu Kokoro · #**199** 15th June 2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kristen

Ayu has never lip synched an entire song, that i do believe. But she has lip synched parts of songs, and if anyone thinks she hasn't, i'm sorry but that's just plain ignorance.

Hmm ... that makes sense ... I remember watching one performance in dome tour that was a little bit peculiar in the chorus or something. However, a lot of times you can tell that she's not lip syncing.

se7entheaven · #**200** 15th June 2005, 12:59 PM

she just did in maybe once or twice
for the performances of M
OMGosh !!!!!
How come said THEY WERE ALL LYP SINC !!!!
tell you what....
I can alsi sing M very well and I don't have any prob...i'm a man u know... and this song IS special song from ayu which only she could used to sing it well... COMPARE her sounds singing M from 2000~2004 !!! REALLY DIFFERENT AND MORE MATURE !!!!
I even really love her M in CDL 04~05 a !!! PERFECT..even sometimes i thought she DO lypsinc la....... BETTER ask Those who EVER went to her CONCERT..e.g : Matt or SunshineSlayer