Ayu's vibrato- Fake?

[walking proud]

I wouldn't nessesarily say it's "fake" but on videos, her jaw and lips move up and down (and even on concerts!- A MUSEUM "forgiveness" namely) and when it's a "true" vibrato your mouth isn't supposed to move. Is this just showmanship or is she really doing vibrato incorrectly?

[hopeorpain]

mmm I would like to know this too!

[RAISKA]

I thought...that when it's true vibration, you use your throat's power..but I think still, you move your lips too...

if it's fake...OMG!

[Raleigh]

Nah not fake as far as I know.

[PrismaticTears]

Originally Posted by walking proud

I wouldn't nessesarily say it's "fake" but on videos, her jaw and lips move up and down (and even on concerts!- A MUSEUM "forgiveness" namely) and when it's a "true" vibrato your mouth isn't supposed to move. Is this just showmanship or is she really doing vibrato incorrectly?

It is false. True vibrato comes from proper breath control and she wiggles her jaw to quaver the notes by changing the opening through which breath is released (imagine a recorder, you blow it makes a noise, you close different holes and leaves others open and it creates a different pitch, now just press a hole rapidly and it's about as close as you can come to a blatant picture of it) creating a -somewhat- similar sound but it wouldn't fool anyone who's taken a vocal music class.

[ohsixthirty]

hey, she may do it incorrectly, but it still sounds good, haha.

[Delirium-Zer0]

I think it sounds awful What's sad is that her faster, more subtle vibrato (done during the I am... era) was properly done and sounded much better.

^ I'm with you on this one, Delirium! Aside from the fact that it sounds forced, when you watch her perform live with this faux-vibrato, it looks pretty funny. ^^;

[*Petit*]

Generally it sounds good (not neccessarily correct) but sometimes she overdoes it and she soundsmore like a parody than a serious performer. I think the "worst" example I've heard is the Voyage performance in which she forgets the words (i see no mouth wiggeling though) and in the dearest performance from 2001 christmas. The strange part is that I really love those performances, althoguh I think her vibrato is totally out of control in some places.

[ohsixthirty]

^see...i think the more vibrato the better...i really love vibrato. maybe i'm the only one?

[SunshineSlayer]

Yeah, I really don't care if it's done correctly or not. What matters is that it sounds right so who's to say that this is the "wrong" way - it works for her.

[Delirium-Zer0]

I don't think it sounds right though. It gets hard to tell what note she's actually hitting, and it sounds awkward like she's teetering between two different notes. It's gotten better since mid 2002 when it started, but it's still icky at times. (but the most annoying to me is "Who..." on A BALLADS. oh god. i can't even listen to it.)

[*Petit*]

Originally Posted by touchedstar

^see...i think the more vibrato the better...i really love vibrato. maybe i'm the only one?

I love her vibrato. =)

[starr5245]

I also feel that the I am... era was the best. Kind of sad, thinking back about it.

[aYuH-evolution]

Those who do true vibrato don't move their lips. But since I see a professional singer moving her lips, my personal opinion is that it depends on how people use their vibrato.

[Neo Daydream]

there's not really any such thing as "fake vibrato". i mean, there are ppl but that naturally have vibrato but itz really just something singers can use at their own discrestion(sp?)... if you naturally sing w/ vibrato, you can train yourself to lose it and if you naturally sing straight-toned (w/ no vibrato) you can learn how to use vibrato... i'm thinkin vibrato is just something Ayu has picked up in her singing and she likes it, so she uses it... i know alot of ppl whose jaw and lips and even whole head shakes when they use vibrato and they don't even realize it...

i like her w/ or w/out vibrato ^^

[ph33r]

Her vibrato is too wide, yet too slow to be "vibrato", so the tone is actually shifting too much. Another problem is that she uses the same type of vibrato for most songs (if not all). Different genres of music should have different speed/vibration. And sometimes she does does it too frequently.

But nonetheless I'm fine with it. Althought I have to agree with everyone else who said this, that her I am era vibrato was the best.

neh. I know a few friends who move there jaw when doing vibrato.
I even do that shiznot.
(like, once a year, LOL)
And above - Vibrato MAKES a song to me.
Without it it would be like marching music...
(dum DUM dum DUM DUMMM )

[saphprincess]

i like her vibrato sometimes. with the lips and jaw movement, it sometimes makes her performances of the song more dramatic and effective, depending on the song. there's a rare couple of times where i think she overdoes it. i can't move my lips and jaw when i do vibrato ( i have a tiny little vibrato in my voice ^^") and i think it'd be interesting if i can learn how to do what ayu does, it's kinda hard to imitate tho. and if u notice, ayu never did that kinda of vibrato when she was young, when she was young, she had also a tiny little vibrato in her singing. but that's of course my opinion ^^"

[Delirium-Zer0]

I know alot of you are saying that "fake" vibrato is still vibrato, but it's really not. Singers are taught a correct way for a reason. Ayu's fake vibrato is MUCH less efficient as far as her use of breath. Vocal coaches don't teach throat/voice vibrato just to make it harder for their students. The correct way is correct so that people don't run out of breath or ruin their voices over time.