Japan and the US [perceptions of pop music]

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by ayu'ssong

In America pop(meaning mostly stuff like Britney, and N'Sync) is pretty much a joke except for probably kids in primary and such (at least in places I know) and i wouldn't know any people who would admit they listened to pop. So simply put, USpop isn't really that legitimate in the terms of being respectable music, or music respected by a wide range, and imo is bad to my ears.

Still stuck in 1999 eh?

Sorry, but American pop music has moved on a LOT since you last switched on your radio. Nowadays, American pop has evolved greatly. Innovation has been ruling, listen to all the amazing tracks lately. Hollaback Girl, Say It Right, We Belong Together, What You Waiting For, Hung Up, Unwritten, Maneater, Wind It Up, Irreplaceable, Fergalicious, and these are just the females. Male artists like Rob Thomas, James Morisson, Justin Timberlake, Nick Lachey are not "primary-school" material. Music from here have sales figures to prove that they are "respectable".

I hate it when people instantly associate today's American pop scene with Britney music from the late 90's. How would you feel if I were to think of J-POP in general as Ayu squeaking out Powder Snow and concluding that every J-POP song is the same?

[xiaou-xijiang]

Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar

Still stuck in 1999 eh?

Sorry, but American pop music has moved on a LOT since you last switched on your radio. Nowadays, American pop has evolved greatly. Innovation has been ruling, listen to all the amazing tracks lately. Hollaback Girl, Say It Right, We Belong Together, What You Waiting For, Hung Up, Unwritten, Maneater, Wind It Up, Irreplaceable, Fergalicious, and these are just the females. Male artists like Rob Thomas, James Morisson, Justin Timberlake, Nick Lachey are not "primary-school" material. Music from here have sales figures to prove that they are "respectable".

I hate it when people instantly associate today's American pop scene with Britney music from the late 90's. How would you feel if I were to think of J-POP in general as Ayu squeaking out Powder Snow and concluding that every J-POP song is the same?

that's a very good point. I agree. Most of what is pop is never thought of as pop because everyone associates pop as Pop Stars or Hit Me Baby One More Time.

[Kikaru]

Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar

Still stuck in 1999 eh?

Sorry, but American pop music has moved on a LOT since you last switched on your radio. Nowadays, American pop has evolved greatly. Innovation has been ruling, listen to all the amazing tracks lately. Hollaback Girl, Say It Right, We Belong Together, What You Waiting For, Hung Up, Unwritten, Maneater, Wind It Up, Irreplaceable, Fergalicious, and these are just the females. Male artists like Rob Thomas, James Morisson, Justin Timberlake, Nick Lachey are not "primary-school" material. Music from here have sales figures to prove that they are "respectable".

I hate it when people instantly associate today's American pop scene with Britney music from the late 90's. How would you feel if I were to think of J-POP in general as Ayu squeaking out Powder Snow and concluding that every J-POP song is the same?

AMEN!

To quote my friend: "There's a reason why Britney Spear's album sells millions". One person=/=entire country. And also I'm willing to bet that a lot of people still likes Britney, or N'sync, but too scared to admit it. (Com'on people, you got to admit it's fun singing 'tearing out my heart' on the top of your lungs walking down the sidewalk during summer).

I think a lot of Jpop listeners (just a general observation, nothing personal) have become very Asian-pop or jpop-centered that they tend to associate anything bad with American or Western Music, Period. Maybe I'm just ranting here, but if you can go about and say how bad the rap and hip-hop and western music is, I think Westerners have every right to say how bad Jpop is. Each to his or her own. Yes, there's crappy Western music. But there's a large share of crappy asian singers too.

One thing I learned (from this forum actually )

Originally Posted by Uemarasan

Well, there isn't anything wrong with classifying someone as "pop". For me, pop music just means popular music. Even The Beatles were "pop". Maybe you mean "bubblegum pop", which is what most people think of "pop" today. But I disagree with that. Pop includes an artist of any genre of music who becomes very popular, be that music rock, jazz, blues, etc. So I'll have to say Teresa Teng's music was the pop music of her time.

So the Beatles, back in their prime, was considered pop as well.

[Dreamland]

Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar

Still stuck in 1999 eh?

Sorry, but American pop music has moved on a LOT since you last switched on your radio. Nowadays, American pop has evolved greatly. Innovation has been ruling, listen to all the amazing tracks lately. Hollaback Girl, Say It Right, We Belong Together, What You Waiting For, Hung Up, Unwritten, Maneater, Wind It Up, Irreplaceable, Fergalicious, and these are just the females. Male artists like Rob Thomas, James Morisson, Justin Timberlake, Nick Lachey are not "primary-school" material. Music from here have sales figures to prove that they are "respectable".

I hate it when people instantly associate today's American pop scene with Britney music from the late 90's. How would you feel if I were to think of J-POP in general as Ayu squeaking out Powder Snow and concluding that every J-POP song is the same?

amen to that

I havent been listening to the radio much but I still have love for my old school music and some of the new school because at one time I wasn't feeling the music now and I'm still not feeling it much but thats what old school music is for. But I know for sure britney spears does not define pop then and now.

Originally Posted by Nanako

Sorry peeps but Hip-hop is here to stay!
Just had 2 do it

Honestly I'm not the biggest hip-hop fan, even though I do listen to it, I'm more into R&B and R&B flavored hip hop. Old school too! Even though hip hop does give off some bad images and ideas people still buy it because its GREAT to dance to and come on we are all a little naughty inside And not ALL hip hop is about sex, money, and drugs. Have you all heard of Common or Kanya West? They rap about issues in today's society.

amen to that too

like I said I'm not for the new school stuff but I definitly have love for my old school rap/hip hop and r&b its so easy for people to say they all rap about the same things but have you actually took the time out to listen to it all? I know not everyone raps about that 24/7 some of them have deep meaningful real lyrics. You just gotta do some diggin. Talib Kweli is another one I like.