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Old 2nd April 2010, 03:23 AM
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while this thread still exists should we go back to seeing how ayu copied madonna in 2002. oh no! because it just matters so much.

to me ayu looks good and it sends a good message. and as far as the pv goes thats all i care about

and more important than any sort of "images" is the song. why does everyone focus so much on pv than the song which. si it because the song doesnt have a gaga similarity so oh its not that important. i personally like the song. whatever. i wish this thread could be closed since maturity is lacking (Even from me)
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Old 2nd April 2010, 04:16 AM
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while this thread still exists should we go back to seeing how ayu copied madonna in 2002. oh no! because it just matters so much.)
No one wants to talk about that because I'm quite sure it's been discussed here a lot of times. We should just probably say that originality no longer exists.
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Old 2nd April 2010, 04:33 AM
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No one wants to talk about that because I'm quite sure it's been discussed here a lot of times. We should just probably say that originality no longer exists.
yeah and it never killed us all now did it?

originality nowadays is a joke. being urself however is different.

i just dont get it i guess. but then in sense i do.
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Old 2nd April 2010, 03:40 AM
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but for me .ayu's radio tape more cute than gaga

kanariya : madonna?
ourselves : christina aguilera?
startin - britney spears?
SLT - gaga?
watch it carefully.
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Old 2nd April 2010, 01:59 PM
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People accusing Ayu of ripping on Gaga should look at videos like alterna, Ladies Night, Beautiful Fighters, Kanariya, JEWEL etc. Ayu did this before Gaga debuted =|
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Old 2nd April 2010, 02:11 PM
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no I don't think she copied anything

even the heels were different, ahha

if she dressed & looked futuristic it doesn't mean she copied. it's just in fashion now & everyone just does it. thanks to Gaga for triggering off the fashion though
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Old 2nd April 2010, 03:27 PM
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when ayu does it is inspiration but when other artist copy ayu is COPYING

like I always say it doesn't bother me cos I ain't no overzealous fan
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Old 4th April 2010, 01:09 PM
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when ayu does it is inspiration but when other artist copy ayu is COPYING

like I always say it doesn't bother me cos I ain't no overzealous fan
LOL Yeah, I hate to admit it but I sometimes do that too, not with copying though I don't care about that.
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Old 4th April 2010, 11:32 AM
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it's just a fashion trend~i think the costume designers are related or something, i enjoy this PV so much~~
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Old 4th April 2010, 03:38 PM
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this whole thing is quite lugubrious. as if Gaga is original? she ripped off Ace the Base with her one song. but like i always say, people have the right to have influence. i'm not completely happy with any of Ayu's new songs, but who the h--- cares about what is alike? it's inevitable with the existence of "trends" these days. people make such a scene about, omg, this is like that, that is like this, what the h--- is she/he doing? it's great to have an opinion to show you have some character at the least, but to have to say what was before and after what and create such [discussions/debates] about, pretty much, the "sin" of similarities, just seems to me quite ridiculous.

some may think, if you don't like discussions like this, don't come here. but i just want to address how, in the end, what truly matters is that it's entertaining. things like this just makes me go, "whaaaaat? are these guys serious?" think about it. honestly, it only needs an isolated "hey, it's gaga-ish, but it's fun". not "omg, rip-off of gaga! ayu is so cheap now" as long as an artist just doesn't sit down and let people write an artist's eventually released music/lyrics, dictate his/her entire performance and career for him/her to play out like a doll, i don't consider it cheap, which are very few (and i could list names, but that's not my thing b/c it's unnecessary).
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Old 4th April 2010, 04:48 PM
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^ well-said.

IMO the video had the Gaga-vibes but it's not like it's the end of the world. The PV was still very entertaining, Ayu had fun, the song rocks... and yeah that's what I care about at the end of the day.
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^ well-said.

IMO the video had the Gaga-vibes but it's not like it's the end of the world. The PV was still very entertaining, Ayu had fun, the song rocks... and yeah that's what I care about at the end of the day.
honestly, right? and i've kept up with Gaga's music career and i didn't even feel like Ayu cheated me in her SLT video b/c of some kind of similarity, whatever it is. as a smart viewer, i view things as an isolated product without regard to anything BUT the artist and her work. and if i'm enjoying it so far, i'd careless about similarities. it may exist, but i'm not going to throw a tantrum over it like most people here.
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honestly, right? and i've kept up with Gaga's music career and i didn't even feel like Ayu cheated me in her SLT video b/c of some kind of similarity, whatever it is. as a smart viewer, i view things as an isolated product without regard to anything BUT the artist and her work. and if i'm enjoying it so far, i'd careless about similarities. it may exist, but i'm not going to throw a tantrum over it like most people here.
the worst thing was people get crazy defending either Ayu or Gaga because of the fashion similarities... I might try to understand if it's a video concept or something, but clothing? That's kinda pushing it... better send a warning letter to Ayu not to wear anything that Gaga has worn before in her PVs otherwise people are gonna accuse her of being a copycat and bashing Gaga for 'bringing down' Ayu
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Old 4th April 2010, 07:46 PM
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Looking back the PV if anything, its seems like Ayumi is mocking the idea of Bad Romance; with Sexy little things, the song says 'dont be fooled by my looks youre the one thats trapped' not 'im forever trapped by your horrible love.'
I think she did it sutbley enough that its her own touch.
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The only thing 'high fashion' about that ***** is that the designers were probably high when they came up with it.

I don't get most fashion though so eh.
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Old 5th April 2010, 03:52 AM
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In Japan, imitation is the highest form of flattery. So Westerners cry "copycat" but don't understand that it isn't copying. Ayu's always done weird things. Just cos she picked the same designer as Gaga. Ever wondered if Gaga is an Ayu fan? You know, Poker Face, even her name, think Bold and Delicious "ya ya, ga ga, wo wo etc" think about it... :p
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In Japan, imitation is the highest form of flattery. So Westerners cry "copycat" but don't understand that it isn't copying. Ayu's always done weird things. Just cos she picked the same designer as Gaga. Ever wondered if Gaga is an Ayu fan? You know, Poker Face, even her name, think Bold and Delicious "ya ya, ga ga, wo wo etc" think about it... :p
No, Lady Gaga's name did not come from Bold&Delicious. Do read up on her history at least.
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No, Lady Gaga's name did not come from Bold&Delicious. Do read up on her history at least.
Plus it's not like Ayu actually wrote that part herself
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Old 6th April 2010, 12:00 PM
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No, Lady Gaga's name did not come from Bold&Delicious. Do read up on her history at least.

he he, it was a random thought, i'd be cool if it was though. I'm not a Gaga fan though I'd be interested to know where the name came from
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I don't know what's worse, the existance of this thread or the fact that it has over ten pages.
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