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Old 23rd March 2010, 01:07 AM
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Well, these were probably hardcore Ayu fans talking.

"She really is God!" -- about the PV
"I WANT TO SEE THE FULL PV NOWWWWWWWWWWW" --about the PV
"I heard Microphone! So cool!" -- about radio airing
-is a hardcore Ayu fan-
-has never hated her new releases-

hehe... well yeah that was probably me for all of those...

oh well.
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Old 23rd March 2010, 01:06 AM
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Honestly, I think it's a very difficult song to hate on. I saw someone on another forum try to criticize it but they made no sense and it was obvious they were just pulling things out of their ass to try to somehow "convince" themselves that it's mediocre. It's just not a very hate-able song, kind of like how it's really hard to say anything bad about Sparkle.
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Old 23rd March 2010, 01:09 AM
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Wow, this song is definitely a slice from the awesome cake.

Considering I already like the singles this is shaping up to be one heck of an album. I can hardly wait.
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Old 23rd March 2010, 01:11 AM
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Whotf ever said Ayu was perfect, EVER in her career. Ayu has NEVER been perfect or even remotely close to it. That's why I love her, because she's real, she's not always this perfect factory made pop singer.
I never said she was? I said that even if something was perfect / tailored to be liked by everyone / incredibly well made / other criteria, there would still be people who would find faults in it. That's what I'm saying and trying to get across. Even if she tries to please everyone with some amazing out-there track from GaGa-Land or something, there will ALWAYS be naysayers.

"no matter how perfect something is when it comes to Ayu." =/= "no matter how perfect Ayu is every time she releases something like she has in the past 11 years -heart-"

Reading comprehension, man.

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as opposed to raining on everyone's parade, with statements like 'I can't believe you like this ****, it's the worst she's done in ages!' or 'it's horrible! complete and utter fail' and all that.
I'm so proud of my Sunrise/Sunset love, haha. People were always like "~wow that single was such a downer for 2009. Her worst effort yet!~" but I liked it a lot. It's a bit offensive imo to people who like what others vehemently dislike. I don't really shove my Sunrise/Sunset love in everyone's faces, but it seemed as though it was okay to basically call it her worst single ever...

I feel that for fans who dislike her newer works and want her to "go back to the way she was", they don't understand the nature of her being/personality. She's someone who is constantly changing, and that's one of the reasons I love her so much. She's never stuck in one image/genre for too long (though this rock thing has been infusing itself into everything since MY STORY) and I've found that to be incredibly refreshing.

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I never said she was? I said that even if something was perfect / tailored to be liked by everyone / incredibly well made / other criteria, there would still be people who would find faults in it. That's what I'm saying and trying to get across. Even if she tries to please everyone with some amazing out-there track from GaGa-Land or something, there will ALWAYS be naysayers.

I get what you're saying, and it's ridiculous.
As for Gaga, she gets the same ridicule as Ayu in the "comparison to previous releases" department. And she's only had two (mainstream) albums. I've seen people on her videos posting comments like, "Why is she so ****ty?? God I miss the OLD gaga." And Gaga is a pretty new artist.

Well, I guess that goes to show you there will be naysayers with any singer...
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Old 23rd March 2010, 01:24 AM
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I never said she was? I said that even if something was perfect / tailored to be liked by everyone / incredibly well made / other criteria, there would still be people who would find faults in it. That's what I'm saying and trying to get across. Even if she tries to please everyone with some amazing out-there track from GaGa-Land or something, there will ALWAYS be naysayers.

"no matter how perfect something is when it comes to Ayu." =/= "no matter how perfect Ayu is every time she releases something like she has in the past 11 years -heart-"

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I'm so proud of my Sunrise/Sunset love, haha. People were always like "~wow that single was such a downer for 2009. Her worst effort yet!~" but I liked it a lot. It's a bit offensive imo to people who like what others vehemently dislike. I don't really shove my Sunrise/Sunset love in everyone's faces, but it seemed as though it was okay to basically call it her worst single ever...

I feel that for fans who dislike her newer works and want her to "go back to the way she was", they don't understand the nature of her being/personality. She's someone who is constantly changing, and that's one of the reasons I love her so much. She's never stuck in one image/genre for too long (though this rock thing has been infusing itself into everything since MY STORY) and I've found that to be incredibly refreshing.
That bolded bit was said perfectly; I can't say it any better but I have to agree. Though I have to add, that yeah, this rock bit has been around for a while now and it's understandable since she did say at the start of her career she used to listen to big rock bands, Led Zeppelin for example. It's understandable that her rock roots stayed in her.

As for Sunrise/Sunset; I loved Sunrise, I rarely listen to Sunset but I definitely will when the moment is right. If I had to 'compare' I prefer Sunrise to Sunset, but that makes sense because we'll forever like one thing more than the other, but that doesn't mean we necessarily dislike something. Just because I liked Sunset a little less, you didn't see me complaining about it being on the album and all that.
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Old 23rd March 2010, 01:15 AM
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I don't think this is fighting necessarily, it's just discussion.

Fighting would involve random cursing (which some people seem to have done) and namecalling.
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I just tend to accept AYUs change in every album sure some songs are more so so than others but regardless of what she does or how she changes i still like her music.
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Haha I was just kidding. For those missing lyrics from Ojisan's translation, its
"You're drawn by gravity
by attraction
It was a certain consequent that I meet up with you.

(I) have nothing to abandon
Had to do this after all
I know The one without you is not ME anymore"
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at the start of her career she used to listen to big rock bands, Led Zeppelin for example. It's understandable that her rock roots stayed in her.
About that, I'm not so sure if that was true. That also came from the same profile that mentioned Ayu had a brother that introduced her to rock (????) or something.

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・親戚のお兄さんの影響で子供の頃はロック(レッド・ツェッペリン、ディープ・パープル)
・98年当時はBabyface、En Vogueなどブラック系
I don't know why they mentioned a brother, but.... make of it what you will, haha.

A lot of that profile seemed kind of fishy, but she probably did kind of like rock as a teen. I wonder if she'll answer a question about it in the future~
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About that, I'm not so sure if that was true. That also came from the same profile that mentioned Ayu had a brother that introduced her to rock (????) or something.

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I don't know why they mentioned a brother, but.... make of it what you will, haha.

A lot of that profile seemed kind of fishy, but she probably did kind of like rock as a teen. I wonder if she'll answer a question about it in the future~
Sorry if this is OT, but why is it that she has never mentioned this brother after the fact? Is this person "like a brother" because despite this I was always under the impression that Ayu was an only child.
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Old 23rd March 2010, 02:03 AM
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About that, I'm not so sure if that was true. That also came from the same profile that mentioned Ayu had a brother that introduced her to rock (????) or something.

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I don't know why they mentioned a brother, but.... make of it what you will, haha.

A lot of that profile seemed kind of fishy, but she probably did kind of like rock as a teen. I wonder if she'll answer a question about it in the future~
There have been loads of places where she said that she liked rock music when she was younger. Maybe Led Zeppelin was something from this one particular one you're mentioning which definitely could be wrong, but I'm quite certain she's talked about rock music in the past. That's why reading that interview about the new album made me really think of an early Ayu.

I think bit by bit Ayu has been trying to incorporate rock music into her work a bit more and more. I mentioned something of it in another thread of this, but that post of mine went completely unnoticed I remember.

2004 we had Because of You, which doesn't say too much I guess, especially since we had albums like Duty before. But about MY STORY, it was one of the albums she was happiest with, that she worked hard for it to be autobiographical almost so it made sense for it to have a rock edge. I thought she really wanted to try rock around 2008; that version of A Song for XX performed in such a rock-style manner. Then GUILTY also had a dark rock edge I think in some places. PCDL had End of the World and Heartplace. Now I'm not saying she doesn't work hard at every performance or anything, but she really really stood out (to me) with those performances.

Of course the break in that is NL. My guess is that she had planned on doing an album like that for a bit, and to do it just after her 10th anniversary would be a perfect time for her to go with it. I guess a hint of rock can be found on some of the tracks, but the rock came back out in Future Classics, which if I believe is where she said had something to do with the 2010 tour (in that they're linked in style or something). Future Classics had a decent amount of rock tracks, even in choice of ballads.
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lol i like how people couldnt go any more crazier with this song


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wow.its nice but its a little bit noisy.well,its rock!i can't expect it to me as silent as ballad songs!i'm going to use this song as my alarm XD
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microphone is just incredible. this rock sound is really different compared to GUILTY, i think. i love it much much more! i think i'll love all the album tracks instead of the single tracks though, lol. i just looove ayu and rock music!
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Oh my Godddddd this rock song is amazing. I was a bit disappointed by the rock songs on Next Level, but this song is fantastic. <3

Ayu slays rock songs, I've hardly EVER been disappointed by *any* of her rock songs~ (Identity was maybe one of the only ones? lol)
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I see. I think Ayu's always been a bit of an angry/rockish soul, and that only started to come out around 2003, I'd say. At least, a harder rock that what she'd dabbled in before with I am... or whatever what was on Duty. I really find those albums to be nice, but sometimes I feel like her MY STORY/(miss)understood work outshines it at times...

Hm, since she's mentioned the Future Classics / Rock'n'Roll Circus tour connection, I really do hope that the songs chosen aren't going to be the same at all, haha. Like, I am... and a few other songs can carry over, but please, Ayu, try to keep things fresh at the very least!
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Old 23rd March 2010, 02:33 AM
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I see. I think Ayu's always been a bit of an angry/rockish soul, and that only started to come out around 2003, I'd say. At least, a harder rock that what she'd dabbled in before with I am... or whatever what was on Duty. I really find those albums to be nice, but sometimes I feel like her MY STORY/(miss)understood work outshines it at times...

Hm, since she's mentioned the Future Classics / Rock'n'Roll Circus tour connection, I really do hope that the songs chosen aren't going to be the same at all, haha. Like, I am... and a few other songs can carry over, but please, Ayu, try to keep things fresh at the very least!
I definitely think this album, and this tour to go with it, is going to have a very fresh and new feeling, despite she saying that she's going back to the beginning.

MY STORY and (miss)understood, for me, are like gems of her career. Some people will say that anything after Memorial Address was rubbish and stuff like that, but she just got better and better for me. Those are just two albums that I can listen to from beginning to end with no worries, without pickyness and all that.

I guess for hopes for the new tour...I do believe there's a thread somewhere that should be revived in which people were coming up with their dream setlists. The second the setlist for the new tour is out I want to go back to mine and compare...self-centred maybe (lol) but I'd really like to see if she's carried over any of the ones I love and think will fit with the tour.
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