[CHARTS + SALES] >>30th No.1 Single<< Mirrorcle World - ORICON STYLE Thread 4 - Page 18

MissElin_ · #**341** 3rd July 2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by riozz

haha.. it would be awesome if it can outsell FREAKY coz they're very close

How close are they? O.o

freedreamer · #**342** 3rd July 2008, 05:27 PM

so its currently her best single since HEAVEN! whooots

njanjayrp · #**343** 3rd July 2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer

so its currently her best single since HEAVEN! whooots

not counting BLUE BIRD, yes.

LEOyumi · #**344** 4th July 2008, 12:45 AM

Has anyone heard Right Mirrorcle?
It's so great! I know it's offtopic, but as it's related to MW, I'm putting it here:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QXGxFu7_UvQ

luna7996 · #**345** 4th July 2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LEOyumi

Has anyone heard Right Mirrorcle?
It's so great! I know it's offtopic, but as it's related to MW, I'm putting it here:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QXGxFu7_UvQ

Wow that is soooo amazing.I wonder what progams he use to do that video.

TITANIC · #**346** 4th July 2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MissElin_

How close are they? O.o

less than 4K only...

FREAKY sold 195,322

SolarAngel · #**347** 4th July 2008, 12:19 PM

And it had 4 A-sides, don't forget. I hope her summer single can regain platinum status like blue bird.

apple-pi · #**348** 4th July 2008, 06:13 PM

But I thought MW did get platinum status? (since it's based on shipped copies)
Or am I messing this up? o___o

**ayumisrael** · #**349** 4th July 2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel

And it had 4 A-sides, don't forget. I hope her summer single can regain platinum status like blue bird.

Mirrorcle World already officially gained platinum certification =)

Empry · #**350** 7th July 2008, 10:54 AM

Update on the positions:

163　115　***,541　*,191,764　12　浜崎あゆみ「Mirrorcle World」

I guess, the 13th Week will be the last week for MW.

TITANIC · #**351** 7th July 2008, 11:00 AM

ahh.. nonono... I hope 13th is not the last week

SolarAngel · #**352** 7th July 2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Mirrorcle World already officially gained platinum certification =)

Really? So they took the avex quote instead of oricon's? A little like m(u). Thanks.

**ayumisrael** · #**353** 7th July 2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel

Really? So they took the avex quote instead of oricon's? A little like m(u). Thanks.

No, RIAJ certificate all releases by shipped copies not by copies sold in stores.
(m)u was certified a million since it shipped over a million.
MW is certified platinum because it shipped over 250,000 copies.

(for others example, kumi's Kingdom sold 606,000 and was certified triple platinum for shipping over 750,000 copies, kumi's BEST ~second session~ was certified 2 million for shipping over 2 million copies though it sold around 1,820,000 in stores and not 2 million).

That's how certifications work.

Lanz16 · #**354** 8th July 2008, 08:07 AM

MW existed on charts for 13 weeks?!?!

Its performance much MUCH better than GUILTY's 2 singles and "Startin'/BTB..." single!

TITANIC · #**355** 8th July 2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lanz16

MW existed on charts for 13 weeks?!?!

Its performance much MUCH better than GUILTY's 2 singles and "Startin'/BTB..." single!

yeah i think so. The sales will leak soon.. ahh.. i hope it sell higher than 541 copies

Bad Wolf · #**356** 8th July 2008, 08:21 AM

I'm really impressed that it has done as well as this. I mean my goodness, some US artists barely see those sales figures for a studio album. But yeah, since it's her 10th anniversary single it makes sense - plus MW is a damn good song.

Lanz16 · #**357** 8th July 2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by riozz

yeah i think so. The sales will leak soon.. ahh.. i hope it sell higher than 541 copies

Yah, I want to see MW sell at least 600 less for the "suppose-TO-BE" last week of it.
After all of the chart weeks, im happy for its performance.

SolarAngel · #**358** 8th July 2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael

No, RIAJ certificate all releases by shipped copies not by copies sold in stores.
(m)u was certified a million since it shipped over a million.
MW is certified platinum because it shipped over 250,000 copies.

(for others example, kumi's Kingdom sold 606,000 and was certified triple platinum for shipping over 750,000 copies, kumi's BEST ~second session~ was certified 2 million for shipping over 2 million copies though it sold around 1,820,000 in stores and not 2 million).

That's how certifications work.

Thanks for the explanation! But I feel that this method of certification can be manipulated quite easily. That explains why secret is triple platinum. Doesn't this mean that there are 50k unsold copies of MW?

On the other hand, a friend said that not all japanese stores submit figures to oricon since you have to pay oricon a fee to state that your store is submitting figures (fans will buy from those stores to contribute) so maybe that's one good thing about counting copies shipped instead of oricon figures. And seeing that MW is quite difficult to find in Japan right now, there may be more unreported figures than we think.

tourniquet · #**359** 8th July 2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel

Thanks for the explanation! But I feel that this method of certification can be manipulated quite easily. That explains why secret is triple platinum. Doesn't this mean that there are 50k unsold copies of MW?

On the other hand, a friend said that not all japanese stores submit figures to oricon since you have to pay oricon a fee to state that your store is submitting figures (fans will buy from those stores to contribute) so maybe that's one good thing about counting copies shipped instead of oricon figures. And seeing that MW is quite difficult to find in Japan right now, there may be more unreported figures than we think.

it's a manipulative system, but which label wants to lose money by producing obscene amounts of unnecessary copies. on the other hand, it is necessary to have more copies to be left over, so that stores still can hold a copy or that people who discover an artist years after the release still can grab a copy, 'cause they surely don't start their monstrous cd-pressing equipment for a single copy.

and oricon is an estimated sales figure. oricon never got numbers from all stores in japan (that's not even technically feasible), but from quite a lot. the numbers they get are then multiplied with a certain factor to take uncounted stores into account.

SolarAngel · #**360** 8th July 2008, 02:38 PM

Thus the x1.75? I thought it was because some stores don't release figures until the end of the week so everyone in this forum speculates with this factor. Anyways, i understand the RIAJ certification method now thanks lol...

If you guys look at the oricon charts recently, it's starting to make me really wonder at the no.1 for MW. Shuchishin's new single's 1st week release is better than MW's combined sales and their previous single is back in the top 10. Be thankful for small mercies.