[Utada Hikaru] Show Me Love in Hikki's 38th Thread!

[JackieRos]

the heck is free mason?

[fantasma3c]

Wow freemasonry is in the wroooong place here. How is freemasonry even a part of this? Freemasonry isn't a secret society. It's everywhere

[Picaflor 7/4]

Originally Posted by fantasma3c

How is freemasonry even a part of this?

[fantasma3c]

Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4

So you guys might find this sexist but...
This cannot apply to freemasonry because.. Freemasons are a male sect.
If you don't believe me read em and weep...

Since the adoption of Anderson's constitution in 1723, it has been accepted as fact by regular Masons that only men can be made Masons. Most Grand Lodges do not admit women because they believe it would violate the ancient Landmarks. While a few women, such as Elizabeth Aldworth, were initiated into British speculative lodges prior to 1723,[59] officially regular Freemasonry remains exclusive to men.

While women cannot join regular lodges, there are (mainly within the borders of the United States) many female orders associated with regular Freemasonry and its appendant bodies, such as the Order of the Eastern Star, the Order of the Amaranth, the White Shrine of Jerusalem, the Social Order of Beauceant and the Daughters of the Nile. These have their own rituals and traditions, but are founded on the Masonic model. In the French context, women in the 18th and 19th centuries had been admitted into what were known as "adoption lodges" in which they could participate in ritual life. However, men clearly saw this type of adoption Freemasonry as distinct from their exclusively male variety. From the late 19th century onward, mixed gender lodges have met in France.
Taken from Wikipedia<<

And their symbols are different.
Pretty off topic but just wanted to point that out. Sowie

[Polyrhythm]

Some secret society

[Foxxy_Fuyumi]

I am fan of her covers, hope her new single collection will be awesome like sakura drops or traveling.

[Polyrhythm]

I'm pretty sure B'z is and Hikki is ranked pretty high

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._music_artists

[Foxxy_Fuyumi]

Well First Love is the highest selling Japanese album of all time.
highest selling Japanese pop artist of all time.. I dont know who is.. let me search xD

EDIT

Found a list:

Rank Artist Sale
1 B'z 75,614,000
2 Mr. Children 50,635,000
3 Southern All Stars 47,083,000
4 Hamasaki Ayumi 45,528,000
5 DREAMS COME TRUE 40,893,000
6 Matsutoya Yumi 37,790,000
7 GLAY 35,800,000
8 ZARD 35,450,000
9 Utada Hikaru 32,160,000
10 CHAGE & ASKA 31,220,000
11 Matsuda Seiko 29,260,000
12 GLOBE 28,600,000
13 SMAP 28,400,000
14 L'Arc~en~Ciel 25,760,000
15 Amuro Namie 25,750,000
16 Nakamori Akina 25,100,000
17 TUBE 23,880,000
18 Ohguro Maki 21,890,000
19 Every Little Thing 21,630,000
20 TRF 21,500,000
21 Nakajima Miyuki 21,310,000
22 KinKi Kids 20,790,000
23 Nagabushi Tsuyoshi 20,380,000
24 Makihara Noriyuki 19,830,000
25 SPEED 19,280,000
26 Fukuyama Masaharu 18,760,000
27 Itsuki Hiroshi 18,700,000
28 Kome Kome CLUB 18,320,000
29 SPITZ 18,290,000
30 MISIA 17,150,000
31 Yamaguchi Momoe 16,190,000
32 Himuro Kyosuke 15,710,000
33 Inoue Yosui 15,670,000
34 Sawada Kenji 15,660,000
35 Go Hiromi 15,620,000
36 Morning Musume 15,470,000
37 Mori Shinichi 15,400,000
38 CHECKERS 15,300,000
39 Imai Miki 15,220,000
40 Nakayama Miho 14,970,000
41 Kudou Shizuka 14,820,000
42 Koizumi Kyoko 14,230,000
43 Kuraki Mai 14,220,000
44 JUDY AND MARY 14,130,000
45 Matsuyama Chiharu 14,030,000
46 Yazawa Eikichi 13,930,000
47 WANDS 13,730,000
48 T-BOLAN 13,610,000
49 Mariah Carey 13,460,000
50 Takeuchi Mariya 13,400,000

[Polyrhythm]

^That list only counted sales up till 2005

[Nackar_91]

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm

^That list only counted sales up till 2005

Yeah, but the top 10 is mostly still correct. Ayu would have surpassed Southern All Stars by now, but I'm guessing not Mr. Children since they've released a couple of million sellers since then.

The lower regions are all wrong though. I don't see EXILE anywhere and they've sold like, what, 17 million by now?

[Foxxy_Fuyumi]

I am sure the top 10 spots are "almost" the same. Problably ARASHI and Namie are up

[ohsixthirty]

thanks for the info on sales.

its interesting how reporters don't even check facts on things like this.

[amorphose]

If you only J-Pop solo artists Ayu is #1 and Hikki is #2 according the the Wikipedia list.

[Polyrhythm]

^Both are certified to have 50 million records according to that list....

[Nackar_91]

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm

^Both are certified to have 50 million records according to that list....

Wait, where did you get that part about Hikki having 50 million records? If she had 32 in 2005 she'll have around 40 max by now, not 50...

Ayu on the other hand will probably have reached 50.

[Polyrhythm]

^Its right there on the wiki page. Hikki got a huge ass boost in 2007 with 12 million downloads, which are also counted.

[Nackar_91]

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm

^Its right there on the wiki page. Hikki got a huge ass boost in 2007 with 12 million downloads, which are also counted.

That doesn't make any sense though. Why would they count downloads towards PHYSICAL sales and only the ones from 2007? She's sold digitally before that AND after that.

Physical singles are counted towards physical sales, downloads towards downloads. Look at Lady Gaga's wikipedia page. 15 million sold records, 30 million downloads. There's a distinct difference.

In terms of total downloads sold, I wonder ... would Hikki be no. 1? I'd like to think so ; )

[Polyrhythm]

Originally Posted by Nackar_91

That doesn't make any sense though. Why would they count downloads towards PHYSICAL sales and only the ones from 2007? She's sold digitally before that AND after that.

Physical singles are counted towards physical sales, downloads towards downloads. Look at Lady Gaga's wikipedia page. 15 million sold records, 30 million downloads. There's a distinct difference.

In terms of total downloads sold, I wonder ... would Hikki be no. 1? I'd like to think so ; )

Who was talking about physical sales? I was referring to record sales

The world's best-selling music artists lists artists with claims of 50 million or more record sales in multiple third-party reliable sources. The sales figures within the provided sources include sales of albums, singles, compilation-albums, music videos as well as downloads of singles and full-length albums.

Anyway back to the main point, regardless of what the sources are, the CNN video is wrong about Utada being the highest selling pop artist in Japan. No need for debate.

[Nackar_91]

But generally, the term record sales referred to actual sold records. A download isn't a record. It's weird that the website would use an incorrect term : /

And besides, it still doesn't make sense that they would include only Utada Hikaru's downloads from 2007, not from other years, and that they completely ignored the digital sales of other artists. Surely you agree?

But yes, that was an incorrect statement from the CNN : P

[JackieRos]

just because hikki doesn't release like ayu,
doesn't mean that she can't be the highest whatever whatever.

you people and your sales (don't shoot >.<)