[2007] Can Ayu Really Make A Comeback?

[*Petit*]

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

since the lyrics of her recent music are just as good as her previous once. Honestly this thread has no direction and sounds like your complaining and bashing about how you think Ayu sucks.

I agree. And wasen't there a thread like this not long ago? I think this should go to the trash.

[miniayumi]

Originally Posted by emiko

What makes everyone think that Ayu even cares about her sales and such? I bet you anything that she is perfectly happy.

And after all her excursions in Hong Kong I think she's just fine.

I also think she probably doesn't care about sales. To me, it seems that her passion is writing lyrics and creating good music for people to enjoy. And don't forget about those amazing concerts she has every year!

[DerrickRocks]

Yes, everything is opinion based! its not in fact or in stone. This is not to bash Ayu! but find ways she can be better and challenge herself. Alot of Ayu Extremist took this post the wrong way totally!! Probally becase they are used to Ayu being attacked.

I was listening to both my A-BEST 2 albums and defantly could see the change in music. i think Ayu favors the black album alot more its exciting and it seems more like Ayu.

I hope A-BEST 2 was a conclusion this part of Ayumi's career. So that way after the SECRET Tour and ASIA tour she can come back out fresh if she doesn't announce she is retiring which almost every Ayu fan is afraid of but i don't see it coming. Madonna doesnt sell as much as she used to? did she even sell big? in the first place i didnt follow her career.

So most of you don't want Ayu to get a fresh start again?

I listen to so many different artists, now that I'm not "obssessed" with Ayu anymore, I don't think a big comeback is that important. She has her face on a bunch of magazine covers every month, she has the tabloids trashing her, she may not endorse a bunch of products still, but she has a steady career as of now, she's still getting a lot of attention- she doesn't need a comeback. She's still young, I don't think she has to be in a hurry to be the "most amazing" in the jpop industry. If she were to endorse a bunch of products again, and come out with new refreshing songs that everyone would like, and "make a comeback" ..how long until people would get tired of her and get annoyed at her music? ..then she'd have to struggle for another comeback, and constantly trying to keep people happy. There's only so much you can do, she's done it all. I think Ayu having to make a comeback would be just to please her fans, and maybe she just doesn't want to do that Maybe she just wants to do her own thing, even if it doesn't bring her the success that it used to.

[DerrickRocks]

Originally Posted by .llama

I listen to so many different artists, now that I'm not "obssessed" with Ayu anymore, I don't think a big comeback is that important. She has her face on a bunch of magazine covers every month, she has the tabloids trashing her, she may not endorse a bunch of products still, but she has a steady career as of now, she's still getting a lot of attention- she doesn't need a comeback. She's still young, I don't think she has to be in a hurry to be the "most amazing" in the jpop industry. If she were to endorse a bunch of products again, and come out with new refreshing songs that everyone would like, and "make a comeback" ..how long until people would get tired of her and get annoyed at her music? ..then she'd have to struggle for another comeback, and constantly trying to keep people happy. There's only so much you can do, she's done it all. I think Ayu having to make a comeback would be just to please her fans, and maybe she just doesn't want to do that Maybe she just wants to do her own thing, even if it doesn't bring her the success that it used to.

Thanks for your point of view!!! i really appreciate it. That's why i made this thread! You been on the forum for a while!!! so i guess you seen it all lol

..member since jan. 2003 haha

Sometimes as much as I would like to see Ayu the way she used to be, you know- when everyone was in love with her, and she had higher sales, etc., ..maybe she's happy this way you know? even if we all don't approve of it

I do miss the "old Ayu" though

[jasjasss]

Originally Posted by DerrickRocks

6. No more ballads don't sound similar or the same

i just dont understand this !
when ayu did something different , eg, B&D / PRIDE
or hiring new composers like Sweetbox
look at her sales ! It plummeted down !

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT PEOPLE IN JAPAN DO NOT LIKE THAT
AND THEY OBVIOUSLY LIKE PREVIOUS AYU'S WORKS

infact .. the result of her hiring a new composer or using that composer is the low sales she has now.

see how many dissed B&D !

btw she also tried RnB in nothing from nothing ! its so terrible !

if u are a really good ayu fan
just have faith in her !

[DerrickRocks]

Originally Posted by .llama

..member since jan. 2003 haha

Sometimes as much as I would like to see Ayu the way she used to be, you know- when everyone was in love with her, and she had higher sales, etc., ..maybe she's happy this way you know? even if we all don't approve of it

I do miss the "old Ayu" though

Yeah, it was alot of fun back then when everything was fresh, different and new sounding. Ayu was like flawless back then. The "CM"S were awesome and the pvs were always different Ayu was ahead of her time. i loved her alot back then as i did love Kumi and Utada.

But you're right, she may not want to start over because she is relaxed and happy. She used to have alot of pressure on her now it isnt the case it falls onto Kumi i guess now.. I guess hoping for another DUTY or I AM is hopeless even though "SECRET" was closer than any other but still did bad in sales "Ayu standards" but i have a feeling the old ayu may come back after this Ayu tour.

[DerrickRocks]

Originally Posted by jasjasss

i just dont understand this !
when ayu did something different , eg, B&D / PRIDE
or hiring new composers like Sweetbox
look at her sales ! It plummeted down !

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT PEOPLE IN JAPAN DO NOT LIKE THAT
AND THEY OBVIOUSLY LIKE PREVIOUS AYU'S WORKS

infact .. the result of her hiring a new composer or using that composer is the low sales she has now.

see how many dissed B&D !

btw she also tried RnB in nothing from nothing ! its so terrible !

if u are a really good ayu fan
just have faith in her !

i dont know how to use the multi -quote so forgive me. (MISS) Understood sold very well because it was different. In R&B i don't think "Nothing from Nothing" is a good example at all that was more hip hoppish early j hip hop. R&B is like Karnariya and Two Of Us those are the only R&B ones she has done

[Lyra-Shini-Gami]

Ayu is great ~ I love her, yeah Part of me rememberd me at many old songs... but it is quite different.. and Ayu with black hairs... O_o Noo!
Besides that, Ayu does much promotion at the moment....

[ayu_fan929]

Literally, I don't think she needs to have a "comeback" since as mentioned, she never disappeared.

In sales, I think slowing down everything and bringing more CREA would stop a steep decline in sales. I agree with your #2 (bringing in new faces with the behind the scenes work) but I disagree with your #5. I think it will do more harm than good if she appears in more magazines and in more CM's.

Originally Posted by criminal

How can people find out about the tracks without buying it? It didn't sell that much because people purchased it on-line or on their mobile phone.

Well by word of mouth + the 2 singles she promoted with it. I think it didn't sell well because people didn't like it.

Originally Posted by Coelacanth

The Oricon graph in the News section pretty much confirms that Ayu is most popular with people in their 40's. Guys in their 20's like her, but girls in their 20's don't like her so much.

According to teth @ JPM, the graph actually showed the breakdown of the people who were still deciding whether to release the BEST album or not.

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by *Petit*

I agree. And wasen't there a thread like this not long ago? I think this should go to the trash.

Yeah there was. Honestly this thread seems to be pointless. Ayumi is popular but not as she used to be. However it doesn't seem to be bothering her because she's singing because she loves her career and not because she wants to sell 3 million copies or something. If you don't like her style, it's too bad for you but she still has a solid fanbase. However she's not decreasing in quality, she's just doing what she loves. End of the story. Plus it's been seven years. It's time to give the other artists with potential some spotlight too.

[Kikaru]

Originally Posted by Coelacanth

You should write for tabloids. You like to create this whole like "Who's selling more than who?" drama. And I completely stopped taking this thread seriously when you started comparing Ayu to Koda Kumi, Utada, and Mika Nakashima - sales-wise and music-wise. All these artists have COMPLETELY different fanbases in Japan. Just because everybody here at AHS has to like every single mainstream Japanese female artist, doesn't mean everybody in Japan does. The Oricon graph in the News section pretty much confirms that Ayu is most popular with people in their 40's. Guys in their 20's like her, but girls in their 20's don't like her so much.

She's touring Asia, she's the best selling Japanese female artist of all-time, she's had the chance to even release a second best album. What comeback has to be made? Though I do agree her music and lyrics are getting repetitive, I don't think your theories of bringing back CREA or doing more rock (than she already does) are going to help her career.

We don't live in Japan either, we can't possibly know what the situation is. People might think her music is great right now, but not buy her albums for.. whatever reason. Especially after that whole Max Matsuura drama in '04. This is Japan here, a society that will shun an artist because she gets pregnant, gets divorce, or attempts suicide.

At least Ayu can look back 10 years from now and certainly be proud of what she has accomplished with her music, style, image, lyrics - everything she has done. She possesses ingenuity and honesty. She makes her own visual map of her career and what she wants to do.

Unlike other filthy *****s in the music industry today (yeah, Japan too), who aren't being honest with themselves, have a lot of issues, are being trashy, etc. If they were a decent human being, they'd be ashamed of themselves ten years from now.

That was the best post I've read for a while.

And I also agree with demure.

Of course she's not going to be her I am... era anymore. Every artist have their rise and fall, and yes, she may not sell as much as she use to, but she doesn't need to. She can be comfortable where she is and make the music she loves. And if she's promoted even more, people might get sick of her faster because they might want a new face.

[..:Hot:Like:Wow:..]

I don't get what's the comeback for, she's still the greatest Japanese singer and the highest earning. So what comeback.

Lets see what Koda is selling by her 8th studio album. Perhaps the same amount as Nothing from Nothing if she's lucky.

[Kagome-chan]

the fault is of Koda Kumi...she crashs Ayumi's life

[truehappiness]

Personally, I think people only think that she needs a comeback just because her sales have dipped a little. [which is dumb.]

But that is inevitable. Sales will not stay the same [this goes for Koda as well]. Fans will move on and the truly dedicated will keep on buying. People still go to her concerts, people still buy her CDs. Ayu's focus on her career is still going as strong as ever, so for her to "come back" would she have to focus even more than 100% on her life as a popstar?

Don't people only have "comebacks" when they truly flop? Ayu is still selling a lot more than the average "well-known" female artist [which sells around 100k a single or 300-400k an album..]

[Dark_hated]

I thought about that she needs a hair cute!! she looks so cute with the short, brown hair

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by Kagome-chan

the fault is of Koda Kumi...she crashs Ayumi's life

Oh please.

[DerrickRocks]

i was just thinking if Ayu could reinvent herself after A-BEST 2 and both the tours. I think she can grab back her old fans and be where she was i don't think the idea is too far fetched. Ayu is bigger than Madonna in Japan and has sold alot more than britney spears i think. But i don't think it was a bad idea for a sort of come back to her old fans i guess it was taken the wrong way.

[*Petit*]

I think the mmost revolutionary change she could make (image wise) is to NOT reinvent herself. =P