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Old 20th December 2010, 05:24 PM
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I think that it was more of the arrangement of the song that bothered me more than her French.
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Old 20th December 2010, 05:44 PM
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Any fluent french speakers from France mind explaining to me exactly why her linguistic skills sound horrible?
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Old 20th December 2010, 05:52 PM
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You don't have to be French to be able to hear someone sound like they're singing in Spanish, lol.
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Old 21st December 2010, 02:15 AM
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You don't have to be French to be able to hear someone sound like they're singing in Spanish, lol.
that was the funniest thing ever.


but like I explained, it's like Ayu or Namie singing in English, and then singing in Japanese, which do you prefer?

I guess I just personally like them singing in languages they don't sound like jokes in.

but hey I guess, at least it's funny...
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Old 21st December 2010, 05:32 AM
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^Agreed. If this was anyone but Utada singing in another language they weren't fluent in (ie singing in English) everyone here would be all over them, but its a nice double standard I guess.

And I didn't realize only people in France could speak and understand French. Fascinating.

Anyhow, I believe Utada said that she would learn French during her hiatus. I guess she really likes the language. I know the Japanese have a major obsession with French names and the like for their stores and clothes but things always get lost in translation somehow, lol.
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Old 21st December 2010, 05:52 AM
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idk french so idk if she's pronouncing it right but I wouldn't call it a bad song because of it.
namie and ayu have songs with engrish but I wouldn't stop listening to the songs.

is all about the music for me.
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Old 21st December 2010, 11:38 AM
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^Yeap... and I don't see what's so wrong with Ayu's post RAINBOW english... I can't understand what she is singing in Real me, for example, but I never had problems to understand her english after that....

@Yumsushi Well, I don't know about u, but most people who said Utada's french didn't sound like it should, also said they don't speak french themselves, what's IMO is enough to think they don't really know the language :B As I don't speak french, I can't say if her pronounce is good and how heavy her accent is, but I would love if someone who does speak it could say how good or bad it was....

And even if it was awful, most jpop singers put other languages (mainly english) on their songs and people don't complain about how bad it sound or how wrongly they write it on the lyrics
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Well, personally, as someone who's studied French for two years, I think her pronunciation is totally awful.

Any fluent people who'd like to disagree are perfectly welcome to though.

I WOULD complain about the awful english...but it's so commonplace lol


But honestly, I think it really is more the music just emphasizing it...If it were more upbeat, the melody, she'd probably do a better job.

so whatever...I guess this is what it's going to be like now that she's going to have no news
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Old 21st December 2010, 12:00 PM
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Well, personally, as someone who's studied French for two years, I think her pronunciation is totally awful.

Any fluent people who'd like to disagree are perfectly welcome to though.

I WOULD complain about the awful english...but it's so commonplace lol


But honestly, I think it really is more the music just emphasizing it...If it were more upbeat, the melody, she'd probably do a better job.

so whatever...I guess this is what it's going to be like now that she's going to have no news
Well, I like to make fun of Namie singing "Hey DJ, more hot!" or about how I need to read the lyrics to understand on what language she is singing... Still, the worst IMO was BoA saying that "Valenti" was in portuguese... Please girl, at least check the words before releasing the single/album xD
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Old 21st December 2010, 12:46 PM
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LOL It's fun to decipher what their singing. They're creating a whole new language.
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Old 21st December 2010, 12:56 PM
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As someone who's studied French for 5 years, I say you're all nitpicking.

It's not that bad honestly! At least she can pronounce the French sounds. Like the French r. "Et la terreur", she really used the French r not the English (or worse: the Japanese) r.

And come on, it's FRENCH. A less common and more difficult language than English. Why aren't we complaining about "das das das duu it ugen"
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Old 21st December 2010, 04:20 PM
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As someone who's studied French for 5 years, I say you're all nitpicking.

It's not that bad honestly! At least she can pronounce the French sounds. Like the French r. "Et la terreur", she really used the French r not the English (or worse: the Japanese) r.

And come on, it's FRENCH. A less common and more difficult language than English. Why aren't we complaining about "das das das duu it ugen"
I like the French, so no complaints here. I actually would have liked the entire song on French.
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Old 21st December 2010, 04:33 PM
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As someone who's studied French for 5 years, I say you're all nitpicking.

It's not that bad honestly! At least she can pronounce the French sounds. Like the French r. "Et la terreur", she really used the French r not the English (or worse: the Japanese) r.

And come on, it's FRENCH. A less common and more difficult language than English. Why aren't we complaining about "das das das duu it ugen"
I got the english verses on "do it again" on the first listening of the previews xD No complains about that...
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Old 25th December 2010, 06:38 PM
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And come on, it's FRENCH. A less common and more difficult language than English. Why aren't we complaining about "das das das duu it ugen"
We are, just head to the Ayu threads.
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Old 21st December 2010, 07:40 PM
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As someone who's studied French for 5 years, I say you're all nitpicking.

It's not that bad honestly! At least she can pronounce the French sounds. Like the French r. "Et la terreur", she really used the French r not the English (or worse: the Japanese) r.

And come on, it's FRENCH. A less common and more difficult language than English. Why aren't we complaining about "das das das duu it ugen"
lol well, at least she can use the r.

and no, we don't complain, we just make fun of "das das das". It's just that funny.

So I guess, we can just make fun of her french sounding like spanish.

Besides you cant say anything negative about ayu's singing on this forum because the stans attack you like theyre fighting against the end of the world or something.

but meh...you guys think her french is fine, then lol believe what you like.
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Old 22nd December 2010, 03:36 AM
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I think Ayu's english in Do It Again is so much better than Hikki's french attempt. You know it's not even her french I don't think, the song is just horrid. The flow is so awkward and just very strange. She could be fluent as a French native and it would still sound very weird.
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Old 22nd December 2010, 04:08 AM
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^ Really? Well I guess by comparison to her past english I think it improved. Honestly first listen I was like "Wow, Ayu has learned to control her English/accent much more now." I can understand how "dOns, dons, dons" could be seen as kinda bad but it could be worse and "do it again" sounds really good to me when she says it. I mean, I don't think it could be much better there. But anyway, this is the Hikki thread I know we'll get smashed for going off-topic. Lol.

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Old 22nd December 2010, 09:36 AM
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But anyway, this is the Hikki thread I know we'll get smashed for going off-topic. Lol.(
Not like there's going to be much else to talk about.

If we hadn't said anything about her french, this thread would have two less pages.

She always gets a ton of downloads...I think she just, appeals more to the average masses...who, would rather just download lol
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Old 21st December 2010, 09:48 PM
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As someone who's studied French for 5 years, I say you're all nitpicking.

It's not that bad honestly! At least she can pronounce the French sounds. Like the French r. "Et la terreur", she really used the French r not the English (or worse: the Japanese) r.

And come on, it's FRENCH. A less common and more difficult language than English. Why aren't we complaining about "das das das duu it ugen"
Agreed. I honesty thought her french pronunciation was quite fine actually. I studied french in school YEARS ago and although I never mastered the language, I say Hikki did a good job.

I've yet to hear someone who actually speaks the language fluently bash her attempt at singing the lyrics.
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Hikki is now the second most subscribed to Musician of Japanese youtube, once again ignoring beatboxers and Korean companies.
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