[News] Ayu's deafness news has affected Avex's stocks

[Halla]

I think it's less about Ayu's personal issues and more about the fact that people are expecting Avex to have a good year this year.

Ayu
- Guilty
- a huge arena tour across Japan / Asia

Koda Kumi
- Kingdom. a million seller ?
- first full arena tour ?

EXILE
- fans getting milked with a new best of collection ?
- arena tour ?

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by Halla

I think it's less about Ayu's personal issues and more about the fact that people are expecting Avex to have a good year this year.

Ayu
- Guilty
- a huge arena tour across Japan / Asia

Koda Kumi
- Kingdom. a million seller ?
- first full arena tour ?

EXILE
- fans getting milked with a new best of collection ?
- arena tour ?

Probably... I don't think Kingdom will be a million seller though, Black Cherry hardly is (I mean it is but not by a lot).

I don't think that avex has a female singer that can sell a million for an album anymore.

[Halla]

I think Kingdom will sell past one million. it's been awhile since the last kuu album and it's released in a good time. there isn't much competition and I'm sure as soon as Ayu is "done" with Guilty, huge promo for Kingdom will begin.

btw I Think on oricon Black Cherry is just above one million, but Avex reported like several hundred over million copies sold ?

also I weren't there rumors of A-nation having a few gigs in Asia (China/Taiwan) this year too?

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by Halla

btw I Think on oricon Black Cherry is just above one million, but Avex reported like several hundred over million copies sold ?

also I weren't there rumors of A-nation having a few gigs in Asia (China/Taiwan) this year too?

avex always exaggerates the sales to make their artists look better.

Yes I think there were rumors or actually some statement by avex that the next a-nation will be also in Asia.

[mishidabo]

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

avex always exaggerates the sales to make their artists look better.

Yes I think there were rumors or actually some statement by avex that the next a-nation will be also in Asia.

avex sales report is not copies bought by the consumer( like oricon's). what they report is Copies sold to stores, third parties, etc
you can check all of that in RIAJ's yearbook

i know that because i did a market research on japanese music industry this year.

ok back on topic, I think its not just ayumi that made the stock rise, i think its mainly EXILE's doing. dang if i was an investor i would buy some avex stocks looking at the amazing sales their album got.
and i do agree ayu's news did help her boost the sales of guilty (intencionally or not) , due this public relation boost i think most of the investors saw an opportunity to dip some cash into the whole loss ear wagon.

but i highly doubt that rise is 100% ayus... still, this are great news for all avex's artists

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by Halla

Koda Kumi
- first full arena tour ?

She already did that in 2007.

Originally Posted by mishidabo

ok back on topic, I think its not just ayumi that made the stock rise, i think its mainly EXILE's doing. dang if i was an investor i would buy some avex stocks looking at the amazing sales their album got.
and i do agree ayu's news did help her boost the sales of guilty (intencionally or not) , due this public relation boost i think most of the investors saw an opportunity to dip some cash into the whole loss ear wagon.

I agree. I don't think it has anything to do with Ayu. EXILE already has a million selling album + with their 3 Best albums next year + a dome tour, I think a lot of investors are buying avex stock.

[Halla]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

She already did that in 2007.

I thought it wasn't a full arena tour. few arena's only at the biggest cities and mostly smallers halls elsewhere ?

[Halla]

I don't think they exaggarate. I believe the numbers are from their their reports to investors, and they are public and lying to investors/owners is a fraud.

there's just a lot that Oricon doesn't count. do the actual sales for every artist can be like 10-30% prercent more than the number oricon reports. like most of the overseas sales?

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by Halla

I don't think they exaggarate. I believe the numbers are from their their reports to investors, and they are public and lying to investors/owners is a fraud.

I think they do enhance the numbers a little or report them in a way that looks better. The report is to attract investors so they'll probably make them more appealing. Like I imagine they report the copies sold to the stores which might not have been sold in the first place to the customers.

The stocks rising thing is a good thing. Many artists have been having low budget singles (compared to 2005-06). This might mean avex will spend more on certain artists.

[criminal]

I don't know... Black Cherry sold [Oricon-wise] just over 1 million with a quadruple A-side that sold ~400k [all 4 songs were on the album], a double (ballad) A-side that sold ~300k and a huge ringtone hit that sold ~270k.
For Kingdom we have a single with 4 new songs that sold ~200k [only one song is on the album], plus other singles with sales around the 90-120k mark.
I'd have to be REALLY optimistic to see Kingdom as a million-seller.

Anyway, yeah, I think Ayumi's Asia Tour 2 announcement helped the stocks rise, too.

[Neo Daydream]

she's getting more attention... worldwide attention... so itz possible that the ear problems could take her global *shrugs* i'm glad the stocks are rising tho ^^

[Eigakan]

I don't think this has anything direct connection.

[nightlightyear]

A bit of a good and bad situation? =\

An increase of stocks is good but to say that its out of sympathy? Erm...?

[4ever*ayu]

Can't believe Avex's stock still get so much influence from ayu after all these years..

it's a good thing...

[ayuayu798]

your right ^^

Maybe this could be the key to the extremely small chance of GUILTY reaching #1 this week.

[cloud♥honey]

Originally Posted by austin. ♥

Maybe this could be the key to the extremely small chance of GUILTY reaching #1 this week.

Yup. If GUILTY doesn't reachs the #1 this week, it won't have how to reach anymore.

[ayu_fan929]

Nope, it was all arenas.

[4ever*ayu]

^that's it, few arenas and halls, that's why they call it Arena Tour.

i'm sorry to bother, i don't know anything about Koda,lol..

[truehappiness]

Stocks change every day though..

Why would it happen after Ayu's announcement? :|