[Charts & Rankings] Best Way of Life - Oricon

[yoshino]

thanks for the news. that's a great poll. I can see how Namie certainly deserved the top place. Anyway, I'm definitely happy for Ayu too! ^_^

[4ever*ayu]

ayu has the best way of life, and as her fans we should be proud cause we're part of her life !

[ストロボ・EdGE]

The only reason my dear Ayaka is on the list is because she married Mizushima Hiro!! ^^;

[waterballoon]

@Joel:

Well... I think Kuu had a pretty bad start to her career as well... Max called her 'fat', he didn't like her much in the beginning as well I think.

She also gave chocolates to the avex staff during Valentine's but they never gave anything back to her... which is really mean.

She was also used as a guinea pig for marketing to use sex as an image... regardless if it's successful, you can't deny they used Kuu has a ... test.

And also the fluid scandal last year... even if it's her fault... but in the end she pulled through and is doing well now! ^^

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by waterballoon

@Joel:

Well... I think Kuu had a pretty bad start to her career as well... Max called her 'fat', he didn't like her much in the beginning as well I think.

She also gave chocolates to the avex staff during Valentine's but they never gave anything back to her... which is really mean.

She was also used as a guinea pig for marketing to use sex as an image... regardless if it's successful, you can't deny they used Kuu has a ... test.

And also the fluid scandal last year... even if it's her fault... but in the end she pulled through and is doing well now! ^^

-Well... she was fat actually by the show biz stantards...

-She gave them chocolates in order to be better seen and liked... and she failed... so what?

-She agreed with being a guinea pig cuz she wanted to, and that made her famous in the end of the day

-The scandal was her fault... Maybe the people who voted didn't consider when you make your own life harder xD

besides the last one, all of those were part of Koda's adventure trying to be famous at any price... so, I don't see how it can compare to the problems some people on the list had over the years...

[ストロボ・EdGE]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

-Well... she was fat actually by the show biz stantards...

-She gave them chocolates in order to be better seen and liked... and she failed... so what?

-She agreed with being a guinea pig cuz she wanted to, and that made her famous in the end of the day

-The scandal was her fault... Maybe the people who voted didn't consider when you make your own life harder xD

besides the last one, all of those were part of Koda's adventure trying to be famous at any price... so, I don't see how it can compare to the problems some people on the list had over the years...

Wow, you really don't like her ( ).

Anyways her scandal, etc really has nothing to do with it because its not a popularity contest, its who they think "lives the best way of life". She has a lot of money so it makes sense for her to be high up since most people believe $ = ( ).

EDIT: But now reading through the previous pages, it seems people are taking this as a "who has been through more" poll? I understood it differently I guess. Best way of life = how much **** you've been through and over come?

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

Wow, you really don't like her ( ).

Anyways her scandal, etc really has nothing to do with it because its not a popularity contest, its who they think "lives the best way of life". She has a lot of money so it makes sense for her to be high up since most people believe $ = ( ).

EDIT: But now reading through the previous pages, it seems people are taking this as a "who has been through more" poll? I understood it differently I guess. Best way of life = how much **** you've been through and over come?

I like some songs... but come on! Cancer, crazy relative killed your mom, deafiness being a musician > scandal caused by stupid coment

[ストロボ・EdGE]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

I like some songs... but come on! Cancer, crazy relative killed your mom, deafiness being a musician > scandal caused by stupid coment

I completely agree with you ( ).

[waterballoon]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

-Well... she was fat actually by the show biz stantards...

-She gave them chocolates in order to be better seen and liked... and she failed... so what?

-She agreed with being a guinea pig cuz she wanted to, and that made her famous in the end of the day

-The scandal was her fault... Maybe the people who voted didn't consider when you make your own life harder xD

besides the last one, all of those were part of Koda's adventure trying to be famous at any price... so, I don't see how it can compare to the problems some people on the list had over the years...

You have a point, but I would like to know what tragic stories the other girls in the ranking have too, just to know.

Well, my point wasn't like "oh Kuu should be #1 here!"... I think I actually know and understood how hard Namie & Ayu's lives have been, haha.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

-She gave them chocolates in order to be better seen and liked... and she failed... so what?

In Japan, if you give someone a Valentine's gift and they don't return it, it is considered rude and a major snub.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

In Japan, if you give someone a Valentine's gift and they don't return it, it is considered rude and a major snub.

Well, she wasn't very liked when she gave them chocolates, was she? I'm not saying that those people were nice, just that... They didn't like her, she tried to own some attention by giving them chocolate, and failed... Were they right? No... Do I feel pity for her because of that? No

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Well, she wasn't very liked when she gave them chocolates, was she? I'm not saying that those people were nice, just that... They didn't like her, she tried to own some attention by giving them chocolate, and failed... Were they right? No... Do I feel pity for her because of that? No

I'm not saying she should be at the top of the list or something - Namie deserves that. I was just pointing out that in the culture of Japan, it is common to give your male coworkers a gift on Valentine's Day. (so its not like something incredibly special that she did in order to get attention) Then they are supposed to return the favor by giving you a gift on White Day a month later - whether you might particularly like the person or not. It is just considered polite and well mannered and of course the Japanese are very meticulous when it comes to that kind of thing. So to not receive something in return speaks more to the fact that Avex really didn't seem to care about her one way or the other at that time, not necessarily that those people didn't like her personally.

Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha

^ Yeah, not being liked doesn't mean you have a hard life, lol. The fact that she wasn't well liked just proves how fortunate she really is, to be able to make it as a star when nobody likes what you have to offer.

Honestly, I believe it all came down to her looks because her singing and dancing is better than a lot of people out there.(I'm not even really a Koda fan, but I can still admit that she has some talent in that area) She didn't have the looks of a pop star, so Avex really didn't think she had selling potential until they came up with the whole Ero-Kakkoi angle. In this instance I don't look down on her for using sex to sell because she had been trying hard to make it from a very young age based on her talent and not her looks. For example, I'm sure her face was the reason she didn't get put into Morning Musume when she auditioned, not a lack of talent. Its unfortunate in the pop industry that you basically have to be a knock out or sex it up to really sell - but that is something that society decided, not Koda Kumi.

[Polyrhythm]

Alright! Congratz to Ayu only! Good job!

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

^ lol

I'm reading Namie's mom's book... pretty interesting. Namie and ayu deserve the rankings they got

[ストロボ・EdGE]

I can't believe Namie has gone through all of that, it's so sad. I had no idea ( ).

[Crystal_Ageha]

^ Yeah, I feel bad for Namie, about her mother. So even though I'm not a fan, I'll admit she deserves top stop for this one. Though Ayu is definitely really close. She came up from literally nothing. And just when it seemed like things were finally going her way, something bad would happen. That's happened to her a few times now (illness, deaths, etc.)...

On another note, the Kumi thing... I'm a Kumi fan, but I can safely say that, despite the fact that she is very~ talented in singing, she got very lucky. Sex sells no matter who you are; it's all about whether or not you think it's worth putting yourself out like that. Apparently, she thinks so. (Which isn't a huge deal, since she's not doing porn or anything, lol. ) But that is truly the main reason she's so popular. She has a wonderful voice - great lung power and a pretty good range - but a lot of people don't like her voice in general. And she was kinda chubby when she was younger (I wouldn't consider her "fat," by any means, but she obviously could've stood to lose a few pounds). And without heaps of makeup she isn't anywhere close to the sex symbol Avex advertises her as... So yeah, Kumi is actually a very typical pop star. Doesn't deserve a spot on this particular chart, especially against Ayu and Namie Amuro.

[asmAyumi1992]

Congrats to Namie and Ayu.

[Minttulatte]

Go Namie~ o/ Namie deserves this. It's a long time since I saw a poll where Ayu is in top 3 which is okay.

[gothicayu]

CONGRATULATION TO AMURO YEAHHHH!!! she deserve the first place she worked so hard and made an amazing come back and amazing albums recently

[sailorseraphim]

congrats to both of them!!!!!