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Old 6th January 2012, 09:01 AM
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I said that it wasn't fair to download THAT because:
-We spent many,many money on it.
-Is not the same price as a single/album (I support to download this if you can't buy it)
-You already have all her PVs in their respective single/album.
Anyway,as i said,i support to download this if you can't buy it.But some people just said negative things about this(upscaled,blah,blah,blah) and now they're downloading.
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Old 6th January 2012, 09:21 AM
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^In that case I completely agree, for those who whined about it.
Any ways I won't say another word about it because I was able to find another way around it.
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Old 6th January 2012, 10:55 AM
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I said that it wasn't fair to download THAT because:
-We spent many,many money on it.
-Is not the same price as a single/album (I support to download this if you can't buy it)
Honestly, the price of something shouldn't matter. Illegal downloading is illegal downloading, plain and simple. I'm sure everyone here does or has done it before and if you add it all up, it would cost way more than this box set. How much the cost of something that was downloaded is just semantics because no matter what it is ultimately wrong. Or ultimately right if you believe that music isn't something that should come with a price tag.
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Old 6th January 2012, 09:28 AM
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I don't agree

I still downloaded FIVE and that album was awful. And I knew, before I even downloaded it too.

And I'll just say, $50, might as well be $500 for me, cause I don't have either.


I honestly don't think that illegal downloading really has any effects at our level. I know people disagree on the moral principle, but tbh, moral principles don't really mean anything. If you don't want to share, then don't share But I dont think it's right to judge anyone else, in anything.

imo, illegal downloading was an inevitable consequence of the industry's inability to recognize peoples' laziness, and properly take advantage of the internet.

When I was on Spotify, I didn't illegally download anything. And the future of the industry is going that way. And they're just going to have to deal with the fact that they aren't going to be making as much money from a product.

The industry also, seems to be hurting in all the wrong places. Just like the PC gaming industry. People are going to have to make changes, and they are going to fight tooth and nail, to keep their money. And they are going to rely oh so heavily on this idea of "stealing" from people and moral principles to do it.

Why did come back here...omg...lol sorry.
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Old 6th January 2012, 02:29 PM
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I don't agree

I honestly don't think that illegal downloading really has any effects at our level.
imo, illegal downloading was an inevitable consequence of the industry's inability to recognize peoples' laziness, and properly take advantage of the internet.
Unfortunately a lot of people think this way and try and justify their illegal downloads this way. Blaming others because they don't buy something.

There's multiple areas of proof that illegal downloading hurts every part of the industry significantly. When you have seen like I have people lose their jobs because of illegal downloads, maybe you'll have a more mature and adult view on the situation. In 10 years when hardly any record companies/film companies are around, this is the reason why. Illegal downloads devalues a product to the point where people seem to think the product is worth nothing. Look at the anime industry as well, that's hurting extremely hard (especially in the USA) due to fansubbing/illegal downloads.


I did notice that sparkle looked very good last night, however I was so tired after watching so much that I think I stopped focusing on the image quality and just on the music instead.

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Old 6th January 2012, 09:31 AM
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All i can say is that I AM THANKFUL TO EVERY SINGLE
ONE OF YOU PEOPLE who is MORE THEN GENEROUS to share this release
with us less fortunate ones.
I saw the Hong Kong Version but i recently pre-ordered Final Fantasy XIII-2 from
Zavvi.com so i cannot afford it atm.
And to be honest THIS IS MY FIRST foray into buying and preordering
things on line XD
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Old 6th January 2012, 09:57 AM
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I dont know if its been posted yet but the Hong Kong DVD Ver. now up for pre-order on yesasia
http://www.yesasia.com/global/a-clip...0-en/info.html
for US$73.25
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Old 6th January 2012, 07:45 PM
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I dont know if its been posted yet but the Hong Kong DVD Ver. now up for pre-order on yesasia
http://www.yesasia.com/global/a-clip...0-en/info.html
for US$73.25
I was waiting for the HK version but now I'm not sure if I really want it =/

Idk... I think I prefer to buy 6 or 7 old singles I don't have, but this is like a 'collector thing' D: I still don't know what I want T___T

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About Piracy...
I don't like it, but I don't hate those people who can't buy original things... Obviously I download ayu's singles, albums, PVs, everything you upload here, but I try to buy it too... If someone can't afford original stuff I don't care if they download it (Even if I can, I try to rip my owns DVDs to upload them to my blog), one thing is sure: Artists will always have fans who can buy every single thing they release...

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Old 6th January 2012, 11:20 AM
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^I support to buy music,I bought music.Almost all my money is destined to music(specially Ayu).And the correct thing is:if you like the music one artist does,you must support.Agree with you.But there are some people who need the money for other priority things~
I don't want to talk about this anymore
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Old 6th January 2012, 02:17 PM
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so sad that JEWEL is upscaled, imagine those beautiful scenes with crystal clear quality lol
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Old 6th January 2012, 02:58 PM
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This shyte better be waiting for me when I get home. lol
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Old 6th January 2012, 04:01 PM
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My Clip Box is out for delivery right now! I should get it soon!!!
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Old 6th January 2012, 04:16 PM
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My Clip Box is out for delivery right now! I should get it soon!!!
Yeah, mine seems to have arrived at a nearby DHL facility, hope I will get it when I get home today. Are you from the U.S. as well? Do you know if U.S. customs will charge tax for this? Thanks!
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Old 6th January 2012, 05:59 PM
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Yeah, mine seems to have arrived at a nearby DHL facility, hope I will get it when I get home today. Are you from the U.S. as well? Do you know if U.S. customs will charge tax for this? Thanks!
Yeah I'm from the US and there was no customs charge.

I actually got my Clip Box about ten minute after my last post!
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Old 6th January 2012, 11:44 PM
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Yeah I'm from the US and there was no customs charge.

I actually got my Clip Box about ten minute after my last post!
Yay I just got mine as well!
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Old 6th January 2012, 04:09 PM
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Old 6th January 2012, 04:12 PM
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I'm stunned that the Hong Kong ver. is so much more cheaper than the original version. :O
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Old 6th January 2012, 04:31 PM
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I'm stunned that the Hong Kong ver. is so much more cheaper than the original version. :O
Why? They're always like that.
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Old 6th January 2012, 06:20 PM
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They can release a cheaper overseas version on DVD because the DVDs will be region 3 locked (almost all DVDs in Japan are region 2). With Blu-ray, Japan and Hong Kong are in the same region and that's why there won't be a Blu-ray release outside of Japan. People in Japan could import the cheaper HK version for 1/3 of the price and not need to worry about region coding. It's the same reason I don't see overseas versions of her concerts coming out on Blu-ray, at least not for a while.

As for illegal downloading, it isn't okay to steal something because you can't afford it. People will do it anyway because they can and they won't get caught, but that's the bottom line.

Personally, I saved my money, foregoing a lot of Black Friday deals and Christmas shopping and even selling off a few items so I could afford it (my copy is with the DHL courier now). Someone said they couldn't buy it because they wanted to preorder a Final Fantasy game; if I told you I had downloaded that game for free you might see where I'm coming from.

At any rate, I'm not sure I would have purchased this on Blu-ray had I known most of the videos were going to be upscaled, and a much cheaper overseas version was going to be released on DVD (I have a region free player that does a nice job of upscaling SD material). I'm also not impressed by what I've seen of the packaging or the bag. By the time the early reviews were in, my copy from Amazon was already "Shipping Soon". At this point I'm just hoping I won't be too disappointed.

By the way, I just found this forum when I was searching for some reviews of the box set, so hello.
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Old 6th January 2012, 08:24 PM
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As for illegal downloading, it isn't okay to steal something because you can't afford it. People will do it anyway because they can and they won't get caught, but that's the bottom line.
Stealing is NOT the right term. It's copying.
It's only stealing when otherwise the people would get the money, however if you copy it because you cannot afford it noone would get money otherwise -> no stealing.
If you download it though you can afford it it can be defined as stealing.

Downloading something because you cannot afford to buy it does not hurt anyone. I don't support piracy as a practice overall, overall it DOES harm the industry, but I think we do have to look at which acts actually do damage and which don't.

Is the overseas DVD playable on european DVD-players? If so I might get that one. 60€ is affordable to me and a fair price and it being bluray isn't all that important to me, I just want all of her PVs and CMs in physical form(right now I only have around 1/3 of her PVs)
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