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Old 20th September 2005, 12:45 PM
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it's no different that people in america hating Britney Spears or Madonna *coughmecough*, or anyone else. Just because its Ayu doesnt mean everyone likes her
hehe but people would still clap for them during a live show...I'm betting ayu felt nervous or maybe even confused when she left. If it was as "cold" as you guys say who watced it, then wow...
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Old 20th September 2005, 02:05 PM
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Max Matsuura believes Ayu will still be supported 10 years from now
Her reign is definately declining, but I don't think to the point where she will be replaced; in fact, far from that.
I do hope so. I wanna listen to ayu for another 10 yrs or more!
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Old 20th September 2005, 02:36 PM
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But to tell the truth and be realistic!! WHY DOES EVERYONE HAVE TO LOVE AYU!! People have their own right we love and we don't like poeple and that's normal you don't expect eveyone to love ayu. Moreover, it's not an "thing" that's happening now it's been happening forever!!!

Don't worry! I would never compare Ayu to Britney. Although Britney's last album was good, Ayu is miles ahead of her. I was just saying that I wondered if she was treated in Japan like Brit was treated in America... that's all... it's the only comparison I can think of...

And as for singing comparison... I don't know ANYONE in America that I can ever begin to compare to Ayu... there is no one @__@ Not even Madonna : /
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Old 21st September 2005, 06:36 AM
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I was watching the latest episode of Music Station..and the girls were really happy to see Ayu..so maybe it's a case by case scenario?...


sorrry for the bad capture.

Anyway I don't think it's fair to base whether people hate Ayu on spontaneous responses by the audience....cause if it's based this way, I assume there are tonnes of Ai Otsuka-hate too...



The audience can't be smiley all the time right?

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Old 21st September 2005, 06:55 AM
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I was watching the latest episode of Music Station..and the girls were really happy to see Ayu..so maybe it's a case by case scenario?...


sorrry for the bad capture.

Anyway I don't think it's fair to base whether people hate Ayu on spontaneous responses by the audience....cause if it's based this way, I assume there are tonnes of Ai Otsuka-hate too...



The audience can't be smiley all the time right?

did the audience clap or screamed when ayu was interwied? They often show more entusiasm when the artist walks down those stairs....
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Old 21st September 2005, 07:33 AM
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I do hope so. I wanna listen to ayu for another 10 yrs or more!
I hope so too. It'd be nice to be listening to Ayu after high school and university.
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Old 21st September 2005, 07:52 AM
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I'll still be listening to her when my daughter's in college, i assure you. Most likely won't be new material, and Judee and her friends will make fun of me for it, but oh well. ^_^

Point being, I for one will still be listening even if it is old material.
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Old 21st September 2005, 09:04 AM
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I hope so too. It'd be nice to be listening to Ayu after high school and university.
me too! after college, it would be cool to have at least 1 new song... because that would be... (not including this year) 7 years, if I go to a 4 year college... haha. lol. But I still she'll go strong with at least 1/3 of the country for another 5 years...
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I think those girls in the background possibly might be just 'eh' xD Sometimes they are all HAPPY and sometimes they're like 'x.x bored to deth' xD

So.. yeah.. xD

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Old 21st September 2005, 11:01 AM
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The audience can't be smiley all the time right?
thats right, the audience arent permanent, they change everyday.. Ayu seems to be on music station a lot.. Ai Otsuka is so cute there!! She has haters too? o_O Thank god I've never seen a Hikki hater..
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Thank god I've never seen a Hikki hater..
i also have never seen a Hikki hater~! she's 1 of Ayu's biggest competition and i don't even hate her...
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Old 21st September 2005, 03:38 PM
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^ me neither, but a lot of people seem to think she's going down...i hopenot, i'm confident that 'passion' will be on top and amazing

Anyway back to Ayu...hmm..yea ...silly audience.. maybe the interview was just really boring at that time when ayu and ai wer e being interviewed? lol
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Old 21st September 2005, 04:08 PM
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Point being, I for one will still be listening even if it is old material.
i think i'm the same way. in 10 years, ayu might not be making new songs, but i'll still have all these cds, i'm sure i'll pop one in every now and then. its like the beatles for my mom, you always like that music from your youth.
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Old 21st September 2005, 04:16 PM
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well, I find out that ppl in Japan either love or hate ayu EXTREMELY. .
some of them love her and go crazy about her while some dunt like her AT ALL.

as to Hikki, a large number of ppl like her but not many go on fire for her.

ALL IMO...
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Old 21st September 2005, 07:10 PM
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no offence, mika is not as popular in japan as 2 years ago, mika is not even a first-class(don't know how to express) artist in japan, the ONLY possible one is Ai (although i hate her, and she is NOW FAR less powerful and popular than ayu) or no one here you can see in japan music industry NOW is the one.

By history, a "singing queen" only appears in Japan after every 10 years, the fromer one(s) are in 80's. And before the next "singing queen", the reminding time is mainly dominanted by male singer. If you keep a closer look in japan music industry, you'll know besides in " singing-queen era ", male singers are the MAIN popular ones (personally, i doubt that a next jpop queen will appear in the following 5 years, i think she will appears in around 2010)
There wasn't any JPOP queen since the 80s, but then came Namie Amuro from 96-97 and then, in 1999, Ayu exploded and reached her peak in 2001 and 2002. In any country, I think, the male singers are the MAIN popular ones.

Yes, of course Ayu is hated. She's too overexposed. We think she's awesome, but lots of people disagree, I mean, lots of people in Japan say her voice is horrible (too nasal), she's too overexposed and her music sucks, because it's too eletronic and repetitive. But that's usual, every overexposed artist is hated and not just by 1/3, I mean, more people hate the most popular artists than love them. But, yeah, Utada Hikaru doesn't have much haters 'tho, almost everyone in Japan likes her.
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Old 21st September 2005, 08:56 PM
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you forgot about Amuro Namie... she was the the queen before Ayumi, i guess. she lost the throne now - but imagine she was once loved as much as Ayumi is now, girls in Japan just wanted to be like her.

and i really do wonder who's gonna be next... i think a new queen should appear a bit before the end of Ayumi's career -- Ayu appeared in 1999, when Namie was still "there", though not that powerful anymore.


some people here said Mika Nakashima isn't as good as Ayu/Hikki -- obviously, she IS! she does very different music, we can't put them together and compare, but she has the class and quality. she might not be as mainstream or popular as Ayu/Hikki, but she's there and it shows.
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Nanami!! Your avatar scared me a lot.. I think those girls did not clap for Ayu because their BF's are her fan. Seriously, some girls are like that.. (I'm not blaming all girls!) Plus, Ayu is still popular in japan, or she wouldnt still be number 1, right?
yeah my old GF really hated Ayu.......maybe its because my obsession to Ayu.....

even my parent sometimes warned me about my obsession with j-pop but i never question about their obsession to Siti Nurhaliza(famous singer in malaysia) and AF(some stupid talent search show with high rating in my country )....my gosh i really hate AF.....ops....this supposed to be about ayu not me...sry ^__^
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Old 21st September 2005, 09:50 PM
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Well.... Namie Amuro may have been very popular before Ayu's era, but she is NOWHERE near Ayu's stage.. Utada Hikaru also is not a queen. She is a musician. If you'd ask people in Japan: "who is ayumi hamasaki?" they would say "A superstar / the queen of jpop", but if you'd ask "who is utada hikaru?" they would say "An amazing singer". And that's exactly what Utada is. An amazing singer, NOT some overproduced jpop idol pushed to the top to reign over Japan...

The only person that can be compared with Ayu's state is Yuming. Not many people know her anymore, though she is still highly respected in Japan. The respect that she has is amazing. Yuming too had many different faces like Ayu. But she also was a great singer rather than a hot babe. Anyway, Yuming left a great impact on Japan. Many and MANY artists still cover her songs that are just worth gold. Think of Sotsugyou Shashin, think of Haru yo, Koi.... Those are all Yuming.

But that was long ago. Now it's Ayu. Ayu is much more powerful than any other artist ever in Japan. She has a way better image, she is produced way better and more modern than Yuming. She has way better looks, way more money into her songs. But Ayu does not yet have the enormous respect that Yuming has. But, just like Max Matsuura said, in 10 years Ayu's first hits will be seen as golden oldies, an she will be another Yuming. But first of course her stardom is fading. She was EVERYWHERE in Japan. On every corner, every billboard. She is a product. And that now is fading; the rest will come later.
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Old 22nd September 2005, 01:13 AM
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Old 22nd September 2005, 01:19 AM
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maybe those girls are showing respect for ayu cause they are quiet, maybe ayu is intimadating. many love ayu. i went to guam for vacation last year and i met this beautiful 26yr old but she looked 17yrsold diving instructor named ayachan. she didnt speak much english so i was speaking to her in japanese, and i was asking her musical interests and she was just like "hamasaki ayumi", ayu has alot of influence. and in another instance i was vacationing in disneyland in california and i met students studying in overseas in california, i was speaking to them and i asked their musical interests and they also said "hamasaki ayumi" alot of people love ayumi. but there are some that not know of ayu very much like an acquaintance i met named chiesan she isnt very much into pop but more so into punk, she likes the michelle gun elephant, more into that scene. so maybe it depends on the scene? i dunno. but anyways everyone should love ayu cause they jsut should.
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