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Old 14th February 2018, 08:38 PM
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But her obsession with catholic imagery is most likely Madonna-inspired anyway.

In art crosses are also used as a symbol of self sacrifice, of a difficult task someone must endure, of being punished while being innocent, etc. Both Madonna's and Ayu's uses of the symbol tend to fit its usual meanings in art

In art crosses are also used as a symbol of self sacrifice (Jesus), of a difficult task someone must endure(Jesus), of being punished while being innocent(Jesus).

Make sure to also add a definition of the last supper which ayu also uses in addition to the crucifiction!!
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Old 15th February 2018, 02:46 AM
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Old 14th February 2018, 11:55 PM
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Except that she used the cross in concert years before Madonna ever did.
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Old 15th February 2018, 12:10 AM
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Really? I didn't know that.
Ayu did it during CDL05-06, Madonna during Confessions Tour, started 5 months after. But it was a very Madonna thing to do, so it may be just a coincidence.
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Old 15th February 2018, 01:05 PM
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I don't think it's about simply using a cross....
But anyway, why is it a big deal if somebody doesn't like what Ayu does?
Just let her be and move on.
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Old 15th February 2018, 01:09 PM
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I'm finally back from my trip, haha I'll add a bit about the heckler from 02/06. It is the same one SKYia mentioned!

There was this Gyaru-styled girl that was dressed in a hot pink tracksuit with Ko's picture on the back and his name down her sleeves. When the dancers were performing after the "Timmy's Stick" routine she started screaming "KO-YAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN SEE YOU!" in a really deep boomy voice. The dancers didn't react and she kinda quit it until the MC part.

When the raffle takes place there is a skit repeated each time with 1 or 2 of the dancers holding up the acrylic heart and they pretend to kiss it before Ayu does. Ko happened to be one of the Dancer MCs and this girl went totally ballistic for him.

It started out kinda funny, she's shouting stuff like "You're the handsomest in the world!", "I can see you! I love you best!" and (my personal favourite) "RETTSU KAKKOII!!!".

I'm nowhere near fluent to know everything, but it was all typical obsessed fan stuff. She was in the 8th row though, near the centre of the row so they were trying to just laugh it off for a bit. Ko did a little thumbs up and said thanks to her for her support but she kept going and going and started trying to talk to him directly in the MC.

It started to get a little long in the tooth and made the audience feeling a bit awkward as she kept going but she was just more and more excited after she got a little acknowledgement.

The cameraman zoomed in on her when Ayu came on stage in a probable attempt to shame her into being quiet again (how very Japanese lmao) but it completely boosted her confidence if it was even possible. She was just calling out over everything to talk to Ko and Ayu turns around to her and asked her if she was her fan or Ko's. The girl holds up her bag and it has a bootleg Ayupan strap on it and she goes "I love you too!" and Ayu lost it laughing at this Gyaru chick waving her (official tour) backpack around like madman.

There was a little back and forth, Ayu said something about thanking her for being a fan and after that the girl quietened down for most of the rest of the concert. She might have asked her to stop disrupting the exchange but I don't really know enough about what was said so IDK.

When Ayu went to do her kiss on the heart the girl shouted out "I CAN SEE YOU" which was pretty damn funny. They had a third dancer, Iseki, come on stage to break up the MC and allow the show to move on. Iseki also did the false kiss "prank" but pretended to lick the heart, then gave a weird bottom lip only mark on the heart. Ayu said she should kiss it again and properly but Iseki said it was better the way it was.

Can't get too mad at the situation even if it got awkward. Tracksuit girl did extend the concert length by about 20 mins overall so it was more time with Ayu lolllll

Some Japanese attendees went up to her after the concert and seemed to be giving her support and congratulating her for her interaction. She took off before I could approach her though.

I can't remember if I forgot to mention that self-made fan goods were just fine to take to both Nagoya and Kobe so if anyone is going to the last dates you should definitely try to arrange a message on a card or fan to hold up in the concert. I'm pretty sure Ayu saw the message from my fan........and I'm too lazy to scroll back to check now soooooo
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Old 15th February 2018, 01:41 PM
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^ LOL thanks for the report about this! I can totally see how funny it was!
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Old 15th February 2018, 01:50 PM
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Soon it will become a taboo to express your opinion. People are attacking you if you don't think like them and they try to insult you or offend what you believe in.

I understand her. It's not pleasant for me to look at it either. But Ayumi doesn't use the cross to offend someone.
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Old 15th February 2018, 07:21 PM
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kendelle, thanks for your story, that was funny


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Is anyone here going for the OKINAWA concert and has yet to receive any instructions on the collection process?
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Old 16th February 2018, 09:52 AM
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You'll need your QR code from LivePocket (just log into the site and it should come up) plus your passport and Digital Membership ticket for Team Ayu. The guy will probably want you to refresh the page for the codes so check for Wi-Fi first! Tickets can be collected from the TA booth usually at 5pm
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You'll need your QR code from LivePocket (just log into the site and it should come up) plus your passport and Digital Membership ticket for Team Ayu. The guy will probably want you to refresh the page for the codes so check for Wi-Fi first! Tickets can be collected from the TA booth usually at 5pm
NOTED! thanks so much. Will have wifi
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Old 16th February 2018, 11:48 AM
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Still think ayu crossed the line with the last Supper and the crucification. Those Biblical events are sacred and shouldn’t be used in that manner. But to each their own,

Anyway ayu looks beautiful with the white dress.
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Old 16th February 2018, 03:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure Jesus or God, wherever they are, aren't mad about her using catholic (I can't even tell it Christian in general, just plain catholic) references in her shows. Why would they? Crucifixes, the last supper, they've been redone, rethought, redrawn, reinvented, reinterpreted for the last thousand, years at least. Why is it okay when done by westerners and for "art" but it's not for a concert? I mean, it's all business (before and now) and a mighty God wouldn't mind if man-made references to Him/Her/It were used once again. I guess there's more to care than that. Jesus was not the only martyr who has been crucified in history, and maybe ayu is just being one more crucified martyr, not aiming Jesus at all. It's just herself theatrically becoming a martyr and you're all discussing over nothing haha
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Old 16th February 2018, 07:37 PM
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Tour will be over in a few days. I think usually by this time we already know about tv broadcasting?
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I doubt we will get Chapter 2 & 3 on TV. Think we will get them only on DVD
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I doubt we will get Chapter 2 & 3 on TV. Think we will get them only on DVD
I hope so! I don't want to miss another performance of alterna!
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is this the first time Ayu will be in Okinawa?
Yes I think so
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is this the first time Ayu will be in Okinawa?
YES! I really wish she put up a special performance on both days

cant wait to see her on the 19th!
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