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Old 31st August 2005, 05:46 PM
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-____- I was talking to my friend about this and they mentioned that the "sound effects" sound sort of like planets revolving around Ayu, so I was like "wow that's a creative idea for a PV"...

Little did I know >_>
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Old 31st August 2005, 05:48 PM
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omg! This song made me cry... when I read masa and sean's lyrics! I listened to the song again...

The symbolism is so deep... I can't imagine losing my loved one, I don't see how she can sing this song without crying

(not that she lost a loved one... but what this song will mean to her someday when she does)
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Old 31st August 2005, 06:36 PM
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HEAVEN sounds great in my opinion! It's really nice, with a fusion of traditional music instruments and with excellent composition!

However, I really hope for a breakthrough music composition? Ayu's recent works do have some of them sounding a little bit too generic? Compositions like those for SEASONS, LOVE ~Destiny~, Key ~eternal tie ver.~, SURREAL, I am ... are truly rare and excellent compositions that would be HARD to recreate, yet they leave such an enormous impression!

HEAVEN does give me a little bit of such an impression, but yup, I don't know ... maybe it's just more CREA I'm yearning for? Haha, songs like evolution, M, those are also songs that lack the generic feel! But the recent works, I don't know!
I highly doubt that Heaven was less easy to create than seasons. Or any other ayu or pop song. It's mostly about luck and which songs ayu pick herself. Arrangements and melody is very important, but it's not" harder" to create a more catchy or "better" melody ( It always about opinions anyways)
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Old 31st August 2005, 08:03 PM
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I wonder is this the full version of HEAVEN? If it's then it way too short! Sumehow i think there's sume part been shorten, isn't it?
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Old 31st August 2005, 09:14 PM
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A Song for XX, POWDER SNOW, Trust, For My Dear..., ever free, SEASONS. You know, the better ones from the early days.
Both CAROLS and Moments were extremely boring- yawn-enducing, even.
wow. we are on completely different wavelengths, haha. imo, trust, for my dear, seasons, and even powder snow were pretty "boring" and lame. a song for xx of course is a masterpiece , and i'm not saying that i like her new ballads better than her old ones (cause who.. was great), but by no means do i think there are any negative points in some of hte newer songs, like moments or happyending.
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Old 31st August 2005, 09:27 PM
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I-N-C-R-E-D-I-B-L-E, that's all what I have to say.
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Old 31st August 2005, 09:35 PM
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wow. we are on completely different wavelengths, haha. imo, trust, for my dear, seasons, and even powder snow were pretty "boring" and lame. a song for xx of course is a masterpiece , and i'm not saying that i like her new ballads better than her old ones (cause who.. was great), but by no means do i think there are any negative points in some of hte newer songs, like moments or happyending.
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Old 31st August 2005, 09:54 PM
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I'm eager to hear the studio version of this song. It didn't amaze me, but didn't disappoint, either. I honestly think that I would enjoy it more if I could hear a higher-quality version of the song.
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Old 31st August 2005, 10:16 PM
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the song is really very noisy till i heard nth ...
i am sure somehow it is very touching..
so looking forward to it..
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Old 31st August 2005, 11:46 PM
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I already listened to it twice and now I'm deleting it, I'm gonna make sure I dont get sick of it and I buy it this time!!!
awww i was thinking of doing that but i dont have the WILL to...
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Old 1st September 2005, 12:16 AM
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1:22 to 2:23 is brilliant; beautiful yet contrasting in sound (especially when the main instrument comes in.). I don't like any of the other verses or the chorus in this song; but this is far better then my negative review I gave the preview a couple of days ago.
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Old 1st September 2005, 12:27 AM
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I think HEAVEN is definitely one of the best songs Ayu has EVER done. ^_^ It's superb. I think it totally lives up to the rest of her ballads.
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Old 1st September 2005, 12:34 AM
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I think HEAVEN is definitely one of the best songs Ayu has EVER done. ^_^ It's superb. I think it totally lives up to the rest of her ballads.
>_>;; i had to re-reply to this making sure anyone else isn't dissing it.
Well, i heard the full version( i think they said it was off of a radio channel) Anyway, This is definently a masterpiece. So beautiful. Sad yet has that little happy tune to it, which somehow makes it sadder, and the lyrics are so beautiful. I give it ATLEAST an "A" if not an "A++" It has a little "forgiveness" feel to it, but better! and i loved forgiveness!!!!
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Old 1st September 2005, 01:48 AM
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I won't listen to it. I've turned into Mr.Goody-Goody-Won't-Download...

Anyway, I'm waiting for the album. With 3 good preview songs (STEP you, is this LOVE? and alterna), I'm confident that the CD+DVD OS will be worth the money if there are a few decent album tracks...

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Old 1st September 2005, 02:17 AM
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Very nice song. Flows really nicely.

-The arrangement, I don't care if it was HAL or aything, it sounds excellent. It's kinda different which reminds me a bit of HANABI, which is one of her songs with the most unusual, yet impressive, arrangements. The first instrumental break before the la la la's with all those whispering sounds is excellent.
-The song follows a different pattern from her latest songs, which kinda shuts up people who say she can't vary the structure of her songs anymore. It's cool that, like SURREAL, the chorus only comes at the latter half of the song. Plus the chorus is played twice in a row, making it unusual.
-The chorus is really emotional. I wonder how it is to be in a theater watching the movie and then the song starts to play at full blast. It must give severe goosebumps.
-Why are people complining that the song is short? 4:18 is not short, for me a short song are those ranging from 3 minutes to less. Who cares if it's not 6:00 minutes when it actually delivers the emotion and sounds really complete?


Plus how can someone write a song to be a soundtrack for a movie not expecting it to be a hit? Has anyone even read the interviews by ayu and max maatsura at all? They showed a lot of expectations for this new song. It makes no sense to me to say they wrote it for a movie not expecting it to be a hit. There's a chance the song could not be a big hit but they obviously hope for it to be.


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"The Japanese My Heart Will Go On".. Are you kidding me?
Exactly (though I have a complete opposite opinion). "My Heart Will Go On" is trash and generic, I never liked that song -irritating and overrated-, contradicting maybe almost the whole world who say that song is absolutely excellent. Blah. HEAVEN, in the other hand, for me, is awesome LOL (I'm not comparing the artists vocal talents though, don't want to start a discussion over this matter, it's just the way I feel about both songs)
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Old 1st September 2005, 02:37 AM
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Exactly (though I have a complete opposite opinion). "My Heart Will Go On" is trash and generic, I never liked that song -irritating and overrated-, contradicting maybe almost the whole world who say that song is absolutely excellent. Blah. HEAVEN, in the other hand, for me, is awesome LOL
Finally!! Someone who felt My Heart Will Go On is GENERIC and OVERRATED!! I resent that song because it sounded really average, wallflowery, dull and overplayed, not to mention I was forced to sing that in Japan.. Great minds think alike...
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Old 1st September 2005, 02:38 AM
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Old 1st September 2005, 03:09 AM
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LOL, I didn't actually mean I like "My Heart Will Go On" (****, I was THE biggest hater of that song back when it came out). I think "HEAVEN" is just as generic. I just don't think 'HEAVEN' could be that song in terms of popularity. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe for Japanese people it will be that classic and timeless ballad or whatever... But I'm American, and I grew up hearing all these American love ballads.. the melody of 'HEAVEN' just does not stand out for me at all (maybe excluding the "la la la" part right before the chorus). Boring, stale, uncreative.

I would love to hear the instruments more clearly, but the rip is so bad. There's still hope, I guess...
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Old 1st September 2005, 03:28 AM
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LOL, I didn't actually mean I like "My Heart Will Go On" (****, I was THE biggest hater of that song back when it came out). I think "HEAVEN" is just as generic. I just don't think 'HEAVEN' could be that song in terms of popularity. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe for Japanese people it will be that classic and timeless ballad or whatever... But I'm American, and I grew up hearing all these American love ballads.. the melody of 'HEAVEN' just does not stand out for me at all (maybe excluding the "la la la" part right before the chorus). Boring, stale, uncreative.

I would love to hear the instruments more clearly, but the rip is so bad. There's still hope, I guess...
In that perspective of popularity, I really agree with you. I'm not putting expectations that this song will be a major hit in Japan, I actually think the single will sell the usual average latest sales her singles having be reaching (hopefully I'll be proven wrong). And I would also like to hear a better quality sounding because the radio rip seems to have some weird noises (well some of them are clearly from the song but others seem to bemore from the quality of the file).
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I'd like to hear a clearer studio version for a better judgement, but currently this song is having no effect on me.

At the moment, this remind me of Voyage, easy listening but generic choruses.
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