[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Feel the love / Merry-go-round Single~

[pimenta]

^ Maybe because people got tired or confused because of that gigantic title? LOL

Originally Posted by drdolce

Reading these posts filled with angst over her sales makes me wonder if some of her fans listen her only because she used to sell 500k wth every album back in the day. It's a stupid reason to listen soneone. Sales and chart positions shouldn't matter at all. It's the music that matters the most. Hell, if she reached only Top 20, I would still listen the single because I like the songs.

I would say the position doesn't matter, but I do like to see my favorite artists selling well, because obviously that's good for them.

For me it doesn't matter at all if the artists are in or out of top 5/10/20/30/etc for me to like them or not, one of my all time top favorite artists is constantly out of top 20 in oricon and I don't care about that, but still I'm always hoping for them to sell well, because sales are important for an artist to keep active, so I always hope they can do well in that sense. I couldn't care less about the position in the rankings, but the numbers do matter in a way... That's how I see it.

[Yoshiaki]

Originally Posted by pimenta

^ Maybe because people got tired or confused because of that gigantic title? LOL

I would say the position doesn't matter, but I do like to see my favorite artists selling well, because obviously that's good for them.

For me it doesn't matter at all if the artists are in or out of top 5/10/20/30/etc for me to like them or not, one of my all time top favorite artists is constantly out of top 20 in oricon and I don't care about that, but still I'm always hoping for them to sell well, because sales are important for an artist to keep active, so I always hope they can do well in that sense. I couldn't care less about the position in the rankings, but the numbers do matter in a way... That's how I see it.

Yea, I do agree on that... And i also think, it is quite fun to see all those rankings, and how ayu fare against all those competitors... Haha...

Anyhow, I think that those rankings might also help ayu in some ways, in terms of promoting and marketing herself... I rmb that I was attracted to ayu is during her A Best era, where the TV will keep showing her ads, and in a very damn cool way... Like first saying "3 more days" etc... Then after like when A Best album starting to cool down, there is even an ads thanking the fans, and stating that this album got first in various countries...

Slowly, I started growing interest and research on ayu, and has been her fans since today... ^^

[KuuXAyu-fan]

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AKB48 didn't release a studio album this year unlike 2012. I'm sure they will rise again in 2014 since they have a new album in Jan. This group/idol trend is far from over IMO. I think it'll really start fading around 2017-2018.

[brener]

yeah, AKB48 sales are decreasing by every release... they're last sigle was unable to sell 1M on its first day and the numbers on the second week were really under expectations..

[AyumiAi]

She pretty much out sold all these women

Namie Amuro: 31,543 (Big Boys Cry / Beautiful)

miwa: 29,562 (Faraway / Kiss You)

AI: 26,177 (VOICE)

Koda Kumi: 25,953 (Dreaming Now!)

Kyary Pamyu Pamyu: 24,977 (Mottai Night Land)

ayaka: 15,216 (Beautiful / Chiisana Ashiato)

Otsuka Ai: 10,276 (Re: Name)

Mika Nakashima: 10,036 (Boku ga Shinou to Omotta no Wa)

Miliyah Kato: 7,009 (Lonely Hearts)

BoA: 6,982 (Message / Call My Name)


Namie amuro just 1k under but she's gunna for sure surpass it, and Hikaru Utada has 33k which Ayu will surely pass

Kana is at 38k which i'm thinking ayu will pass in the long run but thats not so sure fire,

either way 30k in first week when all these other female artist who are considered the leaders are getting sales figures under that

I think ayu is doing really well! especially for being out of the single game for 3 years!!

^^ I hope this kicks off the start of more and more singles from ayu! (and promoooo)

[HikkiAyu]

Originally Posted by AyumiAi

She pretty much out sold all these women

Namie Amuro: 31,543 (Big Boys Cry / Beautiful)

miwa: 29,562 (Faraway / Kiss You)

AI: 26,177 (VOICE)

Koda Kumi: 25,953 (Dreaming Now!)

Kyary Pamyu Pamyu: 24,977 (Mottai Night Land)

ayaka: 15,216 (Beautiful / Chiisana Ashiato)

Otsuka Ai: 10,276 (Re: Name)

Mika Nakashima: 10,036 (Boku ga Shinou to Omotta no Wa)

Miliyah Kato: 7,009 (Lonely Hearts)

BoA: 6,982 (Message / Call My Name)


Namie amuro just 1k under but she's gunna for sure surpass it, and Hikaru Utada has 33k which Ayu will surely pass

Kana is at 38k which i'm thinking ayu will pass in the long run but thats not so sure fire,

either way 30k in first week when all these other female artist who are considered the leaders are getting sales figures under that

I think ayu is doing really well! especially for being out of the single game for 3 years!!

^^ I hope this kicks off the start of more and more singles from ayu! (and promoooo)

That's just physical though. A lot of those singles did very well digitally. Example: Sakura Nagashi sold 350k digitally and is certified platinum. While Feel the Love/Merry-go-round didn't even chart digitally. I also know KPP and Kana are strong digital sellers but couldn't find official numbers.

[Zemus]

^ Where do you check your digital charts? It might not have done as well as others, but saying it didn't chart (digitally) is wrong.

[HikkiAyu]

Originally Posted by Zemus

^ Where do you check your digital charts? It might not have done as well as others, but saying it didn't chart (digitally) is wrong.

Here's the chaku-uta and recochoku's digital singles where she isn't in the top 10 weekly; but the iTunes Japan chart shows her highest ranking at #36 for a day before falling back down. I said 'didn't chart' as in the top 20, because below that (and hitting #36 for a single day is way below that) it's kind of useless to even mention when Japan already has a very weak digital market, below #20 and the sales aren't even significant enough to mention.

It isn't that it 'didn't do as well as others', it's that it 'didn't do' at all.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by HikkiAyu

That's just physical though. A lot of those singles did very well digitally. Example: Sakura Nagashi sold 350k digitally and is certified platinum. While Feel the Love/Merry-go-round didn't even chart digitally. I also know KPP and Kana are strong digital sellers but couldn't find official numbers.

Can you really compare the theme of Evangelion to a single that had almost no promo/tie-ups? That movie's BDs sold 400,000+ copies.

[HikkiAyu]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Can you really compare the theme of Evangelion to a single that had almost no promo/tie-ups? That movie's BDs sold 400,000+ copies.

I was just responding to his/her comparison in the first place with the idea that a lot of the artists he/she mentioned are stronger digital sellers (not only hikaru) who have far outsold Ayu's new single with digital copies, who's digital chart placement is basically irrelevant.

Not to say that it matters, but we should be realistic if we're gonna compare that way.

[brener]

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ayu sold 30k on her first week, those numbers are final numbers, not the first week ones, we should compare 30k with the first week numbers.

Kana sold 22k with Sayonara on its debut week.

[AyumiAi]

Originally Posted by brener

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ayu sold 30k on her first week, those numbers are final numbers, not the first week ones, we should compare 30k with the first week numbers.

Kana sold 22k with Sayonara on its debut week.

yuupp! exactly thats what i meant with Ayu's first week sales she managed to almost out sell the full run of other singles!

[spanishfan]

Sales are good, not just ok, neither great.
Position is "bad" having her last 25 singles at #1.

But about these two things, I think like pimienta said. I "care" about sales, because it's good for the artist to keep active and make more music; I "don't care" about position because in the end it doesn't mean nothing.
For me, only yearly ranking have a bit more meaning because it's like a compilation of all charts in just one

[brener]

Singles First week numbers of main solo female acts (decrescent order):

Mizuki Nana: 61,648 (Vitalization)

aiko: 43,682 (Loveletter / 4gatsu no Ame)

ayu: 30,385 (Feel the love / Merry-go-round)

Namie Amuro: 23,113 (Big Boys Cry / Beautiful)

Kana Nishino: 22,820 (Sayonara)

miwa: 22,479 (Faraway / Kiss You)

Koda Kumi: 21,135 (Dreaming Now!)

Utada Hikaru: 20,681 (Sakura Nagashi)

Kyary Pamyu Pamyu: 14,813 (Mottai Night Land)

Superfly: 11,042 (Force)

ayaka: 9,508 (Beautiful / Chiisana Ashiato)

Otsuka Ai: 9,364 (Re: Name)

Mika Nakashima: 7,082 (Boku ga Shinou to Omotta no Wa)

AI: 6,527 (VOICE)

BoA: 5,800 (Message / Call My Name)

Miliyah Kato: 4,725 (Lonely Hearts)

[visionfactory]

^Thanks for doing this, it's so interesting!! I can't believe Ayu already outsold Kana!! She was like the new queen 2 years ago that speaks a lot of Ayu's longevity

Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan

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AKB48 didn't release a studio album this year unlike 2012. I'm sure they will rise again in 2014 since they have a new album in Jan. This group/idol trend is far from over IMO. I think it'll really start fading around 2017-2018.

But NMB48 and SKE48 sales decreased too, and they released their respective studio albums. Even if AKB48 released an album on 2013 that's +1 million copies at most, then 2013 is still worse than 2012 and 2011!

[adantatu2]

The only artists with higher sales are Nana Mizuki and aiko. Nana has a lot of popularity because she is always doing something for animes, and aiko is loved by many japanese people (according to Oricon, XD).

I was checking Recochoku and i didn't see Feel the love or Merry go-round in the top 10.
I only saw the PV for Feel the love at No.8.

Amuro fans, Love Story is back in the digital charts in the top 10.

[BlackSilence]

lots of great solo acts are overshadowed by bubble gum pop idol groups.... the trend is the trend style is timeless. they will fade eventually.

[NintendoHTF1242]

So thus ends the streak. What did it end at? 24?

[brener]

25 ^^ since Free & Easy

[brener]

Oricon numbers are out ^^ From now on daily updates are back

and well, she kinda dropped more than what I was expecting on the second week... I was hopping for top 10 at least :~ it might sell around 2~3k this week.

1st Week

Spoiler:

1st Day
Position: #3
Sales: 17,922

2nd Day
Position: #3
Sales: 6,280

3rd Day
Position: #6

4th Day
Position: #8

5th Day
Position: #6

6th Day
Position: #9

7th Day
Position: #9

1st Week
Position: #5
Official Total Sales: 30,385

2nd Week

Spoiler:

1st Day
Position: #4

2nd Day
Position: #28

3rd Day
Position: #31

4th Day
Position: #33

5th Day
Position: #15

6th Day
Position: #31