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Old 22nd August 2003, 03:46 AM
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The english lyrics of 'forgiveness'

Here they are:

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But I wanted only keep my love
Every cardinal sins
Every immoral things
But I was holding on for my love
I found them at a japanese fan site:
http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~ayu-mi-x/
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Old 22nd August 2003, 03:51 AM
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OMG I KNEW IT! wen i watched the CDTV performance i saw her mouth a "C" at the beginning of the word. i was like HEY she doenst say "every promises" if it starts witha C! thanks!



..and of course..once again..eveyrone was wrong...ayumi ended up having a way deeper meaning..(again) that we hardly understand..
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Old 22nd August 2003, 04:05 AM
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OMG this engrish is worst than I imagined! It's not as horrible as Tomiko Van's "Drive me nuts" engrish but it's still very YUCK I hope this is not the true thing...but i tried listening with these and they really suit...so scary....Thanks nmskalmn!
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Old 22nd August 2003, 04:13 AM
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Before you bust on Ayu's engrish... I think she's talking about a cardinal in the CATHOLIC CHURCH, therefore that line makes sense, since she is catholic (i think)
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Old 22nd August 2003, 04:32 AM
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Before you bust on Ayu's engrish... I think she's talking about a cardinal in the CATHOLIC CHURCH, therefore that line makes sense, since she is catholic (i think)
I'm not talking about the meaning. Cardinal can mean other things such as positions, etc so we can't really guess what she's saying until we listen to the whole thing.
I just found this part too hard to endure LOL:

"But I wanted only keep my love"

It's really scary lol

About Ayu's religion there's a discussion about it here: http://www.ahsforum.org/forum/showth...light=religion
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Old 22nd August 2003, 05:03 AM
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Wow, that's even more random than I expected..
Thanks for posting it though ^^
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Old 22nd August 2003, 05:14 AM
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lol what i dont get is.. why dosent she make sure its right first.. like im pretty sure someone there knows some english.. why dosent she double echeck ><


mabey theers some kinda hidden message or its supposed to be leik that....


BTW: the discussion for religion (started by me MUAHAHA) is here... although im almost sure shes catholic or christian...

http://www.ahsforum.org/forum/showth...light=religion
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Old 22nd August 2003, 05:18 AM
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Oh yeah..for some weird reason I had copied and posted the wrong link but i have editted my post now LOL
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Old 22nd August 2003, 06:10 AM
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Before you bust on Ayu's engrish... I think she's talking about a cardinal in the CATHOLIC CHURCH, therefore that line makes sense, since she is catholic (i think)
The definition for "cardinal" according to the American Heritage Dictionary:
car·di·nal adj. 1. Of foremost importance; paramount: a cardinal rule; cardinal sins

So I think she is referring to sins of great magnitude. ^^
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Old 22nd August 2003, 06:15 AM
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The definition for "cardinal" according to the American Heritage Dictionary:
car·di·nal adj. 1. Of foremost importance; paramount: a cardinal rule; cardinal sins

So I think she is referring to sins of great magnitude. ^^

ooo that does make snes... forgive.. even the greatest sins

lol GO AHS TRANSLATION TEAM!

okay i think this...

she wants to keep her love no matter what major sin, no matter what immortal sin (meaning like grave.. well in the catholic church tahst wat that means).. all for her love...


that wasnt so hard... mabey them in japan understand that sorta english

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Old 22nd August 2003, 06:22 AM
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It makes sense, I just wish she's gotten an english speaker to phrase it properly for her.
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Re: The english lyrics of forgiveness

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Originally posted by nmskalmn
Here they are:
But I wanted only keep my love
Every cardinal sins
Every immoral things
But I was holding on for my love
I found them at a japanese fan site:
http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~ayu-mi-x/
i hear the song again..... for the part Every cardinal sins ==> i heard like Everytime I sins~
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Old 22nd August 2003, 06:43 AM
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i have a question... how can we be sure those are teh real lyrics?... i mean its just a fan site liek us... we can say it all wrong that wouldnt mean we were right... tahst a good guess id say.. but i dont exactly hear any of it in teh song... i guess ill just have to wait for teh official release...



its good to think and figure ot out tho heh, good job everyone
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Old 22nd August 2003, 09:23 AM
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samurai has a good point, after all, it is just a fan site
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Old 22nd August 2003, 09:31 AM
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but she doesnt credit the engrish in the lyrics booklet, just like she didnt with RAINBOW... she must be too ashamed to want it published [?] by not printing it, people are free to guess what it is, if it was actually written, they could go "hey, that doesnt sound like that.. her english is ****!" so perhaps shes trying to maintain some level of mystique as well as saving her ass at the same time
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Old 22nd August 2003, 09:54 AM
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I'm going to check and see if I can hear them...


Samurai Hamasaki's right about it seeming like she wants to keep her love even though in the eyes of the church it's wrong.... I was brought up a Catholic, and all I can say is - I couldn't even begin to count how many things are wrong or 'sins' to them, there's quite a lot. And in speaking of cardinal sins, that usually means punishment is burning in hell for all eternity...
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Old 22nd August 2003, 11:49 AM
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Here are the lyrics sung by the background singers (from the same site posted above):

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War and distraction.
Crime and desire.
But I wanted only keep my love.
Every cardinal sins.
Every immoral things.
But I was holding on for my love.
Btw, I think it is easier to hear the bg singers in the CDTV live than the mp3.
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Old 22nd August 2003, 12:16 PM
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I think everything apart from "cardinal" is right. It doesn't sound like "cardinal", although it does start with a "k" sound. "But I wanted only keep my love" is good enough for me, the message is clear enough.

Although it would be great for the lyrics to be in perfect English, but at least we know that she wrote it herself and is true to herself. Even if she just asked someone to check, someone might start accusing her of not writing her own lyrics. I think the reason why she didn't publish the lyrics is that she doesn't consider them as lyrics at all, it's like something she just sings along to in the end. Therefore I don't think it matters what she sings, although it's great to know that even the chorus's lyrics has such deep meaning.

We shouldn't really worry about the tiny details. I think the lyric's meaning is far more important than the grammar or whatever.
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Old 22nd August 2003, 02:46 PM
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i dont think she said
"Every cardinal sins.
Every immoral things."
doesn't realli sound like that to me
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Old 22nd August 2003, 02:53 PM
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I'm not sure but I think she said
"Every promises. Every memories."
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