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Old 12th October 2013, 08:57 PM
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Honestly guys, I don't get all the drama. Those photos aren't really "explicit" at all and if Ayu really was shocked by those... I don't get it.
And please don't say something like "her dancers are like a family to her, who would want to see his/her family like this?". I would ask in return, why would her dancers then want to see Ayu half naked in photoshoots? And by the way, her dancers are often half naked during her shows, so...
Also that they are her dancers don't make them her property, if they want to contribute to something like this, they are free to do so.
I guess the difference is Ayu is her own boss, she is their boss..I can understand why she'd be mad/annoyed.


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Old 12th October 2013, 08:58 PM
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It's not about the nudity, alot of these poses are unusually suggestive for the ayumi hamasaki brand. We've seen ayu doing hand-bras and such, but we haven't seen her (or her dancers') clearly naked hips attached to someone else's clearly naked hips. The poses in this shoot are a bit much.
I still don't see what's wrong with that?

Sure I understand how this could affect Ayu and all, but if it were any other country it wouldn't be a big deal. I guess sometimes you shouldn't be close friends with people who you work with...ah
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Old 12th October 2013, 09:07 PM
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Ayu just posted this on TA:

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First and foremost, I truly with all my heart apologize for making all of you feel shocked, sad, appalled, uncomfortable, and confused in regards to my dancers photos being released without any information in advance.

As the Chief of the group, please let me use this opportunity to truly apologize in this matter.

Let me convey their story after we quickly got their stories and the reasons they ended up in such A situation.

The dancers individually got an offer to have their picture taken to surprise me with a photo book on my birthday and my 15th anniversary celebration.

The dancers all adjusted each of his or her schedules for the shoot date and in order to make this surprise a successful one, they made a strong effort not to be found out by me.
Everyone was psyched to make the surprise a successful one.

Because they were all told that the photo is a private photo, the photo book was for Ayu’s eye only and without the dancer's permission, without Avex’s permission, the photo’s were released to the public.

The dancers, everyone was speechless and went blank for a whole day. everyone was all depressed and without any words yesterday.

They are still feeling like that right now.

I feel that they felt, that a photo that was not supposed to be out in public,that does go out in public, no matter if you are man or women, it is a huge shock for anyone.

YES, if it was a privately shared photo, we could all have shared a private laugh together and had fun, but now, we can’t even put up a smile.

But in conclusion, even though it was a precious thought from the everyone, and it ended up in such A regrettable situation, we decided by talking with everyone that when we see each other again, we promised to meet with a smile. At the end, we all laughed and we all cried as we talked about it.

Now in proceeding to the Countdown show, this adversity, has only made our bond to become even much stronger.

Thanks for reading this til the end.

Thank you for always supporting us members.

Next time, it will definitely be a brighter and happier story.

The video is also very nice,

Kome was filming yesterday.
So that explains the problem and Ayu's previous post, the pictures were never supposed to be public and her dancers are all feeling pretty bad and betrayed about it, so of course Ayu is sad as well because she cares about them
Leslie seriously has gone too far this time

I hope they all can overcome this sad situation and be able to laugh about it in the future, the pictures are not bad, they'll be ok with time
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Old 12th October 2013, 09:09 PM
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The truth was out in her latest post.
Those photos wasn't meant to be posted anywhere to the public. Even the dancers were shocked to find them being released to the public thus the commotion. Seems like leslie is the 1 in fault for losing their trust!
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Old 12th October 2013, 09:13 PM
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Yes finally...she should have dropped him when he did that seedy photobook with Manny. Shady shady leslie..never want her to work with him again.
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Old 12th October 2013, 09:17 PM
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Yes, it is all about Leslie Kee... really don't get why he did that...
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Old 12th October 2013, 09:26 PM
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I don't interpet Ayus words as being annoyed. It was a private surprise that wasn't intended for the public and she just felt sad about the leaking. I don't think Ayu cares so much about the nude pictures, but more because some fans seem to be very shocked. She herself surely ain't such a prude. But weirdly this seems so very similar to the Mannie situation....how can such a thing happen twice? All sounds weird to me.
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Old 12th October 2013, 09:29 PM
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I have no idea what's happening but LESLIE JUST WANTS MONEY AND FREE MODELS - here's your conclusion lol The pics aren't that bad really, but i do understand the frustration when it was supposed to be a private thing... and also WTF really? what kind of "friend" does this kind of shit? No wonder he's been ass-kissing Ayu this whole time, i always thought his "fanboying" was a little too much....

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Old 12th October 2013, 09:31 PM
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I don't interpet Ayus words as being annoyed. It was a private surprise that wasn't intended for the public and she just felt sad about the leaking. I don't think Ayu cares so much about the nude pictures, but more because some fans seem to be very shocked. She herself surely ain't such a prude. But weirdly this seems so very similar to the Mannie situation....how can such a thing happen twice? All sounds weird to me.
They weren't leaked, Leslie is releasing the photos publicly. Leslie told the dancers/staff the photos would only be used as a private personal birthday surprise for Ayu. Leslie is using the photos for his own 15th anniversary photobook to celebrate his own career.
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Old 12th October 2013, 09:38 PM
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Ayu and Avex are probably going to stop Leslie from using the pictures in the final photobook (or at least I hope they do that if the dancers are feeling depressed about it), but that doesn't change the fact that the pictures are already out there... I actually like the pictures (specially the one with Shu-ya and Kazuma ), but Leslie lied to them for his own advantage and that's just awful!
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Am I the only one who get excited with "the video is also very nice" part? Which video?
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Old 12th October 2013, 09:55 PM
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Am I the only one who get excited with "the video is also very nice" part? Which video?
KOME is her audio director so it's probably just another video from recording in LA.
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Old 12th October 2013, 10:08 PM
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Thank you for that second message. This explanation makes a lot more sense than what was being previously speculated.
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Old 12th October 2013, 10:18 PM
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Very very surprised reason, I understand that Ayu and her dancers feel betrayed...
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Old 12th October 2013, 10:28 PM
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I feel bad for Ayu AND her dancers. What an absolutely shitty thing to do on Leslies part...he's obviously a liar and using Ayu's name for his own purposes. I hope she never has anything to do with him again.
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Old 12th October 2013, 10:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure the only reason why she's pissed off is not because of the fact that her dancers got nude and posed for her, it's the fact that the pictures were supposed to be private without anyone else seeing them but her, and that trust was violated. When it was violated, her dancers felt distraught and damaged, and I think she's feeling angry about that.
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Old 12th October 2013, 10:33 PM
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You know, at first I was gonna be like, "Why the fuck is Ayu so shocked? She's been friends with Leslie for how many years now? She should know that type of photography is his forte." I still feel that way, but the fact that he's gone and made a private gift public - possibly twice now - yeah, no. He's a shady fucker. I hope Ayu uses this as an opportunity to really evaluate her friendship with him and the situations surrounding him. All this time we've been blaming Mannie for the photobook fiasco when it was most likely Leslie's fault. Imagine how Ayu must feel
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^ i think what got her was the fact that it had to be a PRIVATE thing but he made it all public, rather than the pictures themselves. I sure would be pissed! He simply used their trust for his own fame. *shrugs* Still tho some pics are rather sugestive as someone already pointed... He could have approached certain poses in adifferent way... He needs to do porn instead of trying to achieve artistic nude...

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Old 12th October 2013, 11:14 PM
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they need to get Ayu approval, i think, hence that's why they called Ayu dancers. she's the boss. LOL
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Old 12th October 2013, 11:18 PM
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Yeah, again, I don't think the nudity is a problem at all. If it was, she herself would never have done her nude shots. No, it's definitely the fact that they were made public when the dancers were told they were for a private surprise.
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