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Old 31st December 2005, 04:06 PM
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its her voice
and i think she sings "them" in the place of "him"
her english is quite perfct in that verse o.o
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Old 31st December 2005, 04:45 PM
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i think and hope it IS Ayu sayin that stuff... I LOVE IT! so awesome!
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Old 31st December 2005, 05:28 PM
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I always hear "wisdom"! and yeah that's ayu's voice.
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Old 31st December 2005, 09:25 PM
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oh, I don't see why anyone thinks thats not Ayu... that surely is... listen to 'flower garden' at around 1:22... now she is singing Japanese so her voice is a little higher... but remember everyone, she has said that she hikes up her voice when she talks in Japanese to that 'cute level' because thats what fans want to hear... Ayu has actually a deep voice... Watching her Arena 2005 Special side DVD has shown her real voice... it is quite deep and not the high squeaky voice you guys are used to...

Her english is getting better... but she did record in New York and you can kinda hear a little northern lisp in her dialogue... I think you guys are being thrown off by the muffled effects they are doing,

as to what it says ... I'm still trying to figure that out myself... seems like it's gonna be another 'forgiveness'

hmm... I turned it up on my iPOD... it kinda sounds like there's 2 verses that she repeats twice... but the 2nd verse is excalt the same except for whats in bold because I can hear 'look up' on the 1st and 3rd verses... but if you listen closely you can hear an 's' sound in the 2nd and 4th verse... almost like the word "waste it" but it doesn't quite sound like waste..... hmmm needs more analyzing XD but here's what I kinda hear (I put the 'you' in parenthesis because I think the 'you' is understood... or just forgotten... it makes better sense that way


Danger, look up
(You) can replace him
Hate him
Then even so
You don’t even
Think you can leave him
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Old 1st January 2006, 04:19 AM
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Meh, it doesn't sound like Ayu to me. But if it actually was Ayu rapping in English...O_O How did her English improve so quickly?
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Old 1st January 2006, 08:04 AM
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I can't hear look up. :|

I hear.

"Danger. lose them - can't replace them but you hate them - and even so you don't ever need to - think you can't* beat them."

*Sounds like can to me, but can't makes more sense.
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Old 1st January 2006, 08:13 AM
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I hope it's her singing it! We'll see in her concert lol.
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Old 1st January 2006, 10:29 AM
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I've been wondering who's the girl talking that english part..
seem interesting..
wanna know abou it...
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Old 1st January 2006, 04:17 PM
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Did you even read any of this thread, AyUmIXx?

Anyway, I hear:

Danger, look up, come and place him, hate him, then even so, you don't ever need to think it can live.

Danger, lose them, come and place them, hate him, then even so, you don't ever need to think it can leave.

I could be wrong. In fact, I probably am.
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Old 1st January 2006, 06:32 PM
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I'm not sure;; I can still barely understand the english in 'Forgiveness' =/
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Old 2nd January 2006, 05:17 AM
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As I posted in this thread about the LN English, Ayumi does not sing the English. It's done by another person who is credited as the Vocoder Voice (synth voice). I hope this clear up any confusion and argument over whether or not it was Ayumi singing in English.
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Old 3rd January 2006, 03:34 AM
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It sure does sound a heck of a lot like Ayu to me singing in English. Esp. since it's all accent-y and you can't understand what shes saying like in 'Forgiveness'. If it is someone whos singing the English it's def. not someone who is fluent or uses english as a first language.
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Old 3rd January 2006, 03:56 PM
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As I posted in this thread about the LN English, Ayumi does not sing the English. It's done by another person who is credited as the Vocoder Voice (synth voice). I hope this clear up any confusion and argument over whether or not it was Ayumi singing in English.

hmmm, who do they say sings this part? I still hear Ayumi singing it... if you listen her english isn't that good in the rap... words like replace and especially the word even...

I don't have the booklet to look at Hopefully I will get the album soon But if it's not her then they did a good job at finding someone that sounded exactly like her 0_o almost uncanny

I don't see how saying that she didn't mouth the rap in ladies Night qualifies as evidence though... she doesn't always sing every word in PV's... and at the end of forgiveness she didn't mouth any of that bloody english that to this day we don't know 'for sure' Plus in her Pride PV during the end when she is flailing around she isn't mouth the words to the chorus (actually it looks like its shooting backwards so she MIGHT be but with it like that who know)

How do we know these vocalists aren't japanese?
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Old 3rd January 2006, 04:00 PM
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During the start of Pride, too. She doesn't sing throughout the entire beginning until the chorus starts.
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Old 3rd January 2006, 04:58 PM
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I think DevilAyu is right..as she has gotten the album and.. I'm 100% sure that..it's not Ayu who rap the "english part" one..the voice is 100% not the same as Ayu's voice....
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Old 3rd January 2006, 05:01 PM
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Agreed, AyUmIXx.
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Old 4th January 2006, 02:10 PM
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Alright... I think I have figured it out

Devil Ayu is right that someone else did this Vocoder voice... BUT it's not the rap you guys think it is. Since when has Ayu ever let someone take up that much space in her song? I don't think the arranger sought out a person and made them sing this rap for Ayu's album. I beleive Ayu would have done it

BUT who is this Vocoder voice... Well if you listen you hear 'Danger' throughtout the song... this is the actual Vocoder voice

listen to the sample and read the website... I promise I did some research before I got on and said "OMG, like it's Ayu you guys, like how can you think it's not like her??!" So serisouly, doesn't this sound a little more plausible?

Ayu would have let someone else sing choruses and stuff with it being a choir or someone. They only song she has sung with someone on a single or album song is Keiko... and that was a duet

EDIT: Sorry forgot to put the website link *hee hee* forgive me I'm a blond

http://www.sirlab.de/linux/descr_vocoder.html

also everyone notice the adorable little penguin at the top
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Old 4th January 2006, 04:38 PM
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^ I'm actually under the impression that the 'rap' is encompassed in the vocoder thing (it seems odd to credit someone for one word?) I mean, that whole part sounds like it's been played around with (or as someone put it, filtered) and it really doesn't sound like her to me.
I'm with SheFliesHigher, I'll have to see Ayumi sing it to get convinced that it's her.
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Old 4th January 2006, 04:46 PM
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BUT who is this Vocoder voice...
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Old 4th January 2006, 04:57 PM
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lol... it was kinda retorhical (what as I butcher this word) but thanks for the indo *blush*

maybe so devilayu... I guess we'll see in her Tour this year huh XD If she pops out with good english I guess we'll all be floored... perhaps her trip to NY was an uncover reason and she masked it by making a fabulous album!
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