forgiveness (ver. 2)

Picaflor 7/4 · #1 19th September 2010, 12:13 AM

This thread really amazed me. I didn't know there was a different version of the forgiveness pv. So, I made a video comparison on youtube of them. (god i hope this video doesn't get taken down) Feel free to watch and comment. Really cool. Does anyone happen to know of any other videos that alter from the tv and dvd versions?

http://vimeo.com/15087604

Kanzaki · #2 19th September 2010, 12:20 AM

Blocked by avex :/

Picaflor 7/4 · #3 19th September 2010, 12:40 AM

^it is in your country. :/ damn It is still available here in america though. I wonder if there is a way to get around that.

adantatu2 · #4 19th September 2010, 12:45 AM

Sorry, but isn't available ToT
Maybe you can try VIMEO

Kanzaki · #5 19th September 2010, 12:49 AM

That's just unfair o.o
Damn you illogical copyright laws >: (

ownsarai · #6 19th September 2010, 12:49 AM

it's gone, everyone knows avex trolls youtube like crazy. >.<

bluegie · #7 19th September 2010, 12:56 AM

I still prefer the original TV version over DVD version. I really have no idea why they changed the CG of the egg scene.

Kazeyomi · #8 19th September 2010, 12:56 AM

omg Avex is so annoying lol.

Kanzaki · #9 19th September 2010, 01:05 AM

Avex even have video recognizing software to identify if anyone uploads one of their pvs...they're horrible.

noisy_harmony · #10 19th September 2010, 01:08 AM

~~Wanted to see differenced from my beloved song's PV but obviously it's blocked :/ damn~~

oh, nevermind, I already downloaded that version

It looks very interesting!

bluegie · #11 19th September 2010, 01:59 AM

I think there're two differences between the "original" tv version and the later Ma version.

1 --> In Ma version, after ayu sang the 2nd chorus, as she was sitting on the flower thingie, it automatically transformed into an egg. In the original version, the flower petals covered ayu and eventually became the egg.

2 --> in the prison ayu scene (or kidnapped?

), after the egg fell on the flower petals, the top part of the egg shell was gone immediately in Ma version. In the original version, the top of the egg shell opened (like... a hexagon space door?

).

If anything is incorrect, forgive me. The last time I saw the original pv was back in the end of 2003 (once I got the dvd, I deleted the original version). Also, there's one extra thing that makes me care about the original version more. Back in the old days the ripping technique wasn't as good as nowadays, and of course there's no "HD" recording back in the old days. So the tv version that I got (80 Mb avi?) was kinda blurry. It somehow enhanced the fairy tale feeling of the pv. When I got Ma, I watched the pv on tv, and it's too crispy clear that the whole fairy tale looked so unrealistic. The contrast between ayu and the CG graphics was quite big. I wish they blurry/soften the scenes a bit.

JackieRos · #12 19th September 2010, 02:57 AM

damn it I missed it!!! *sigh*

ownsarai · #13 19th September 2010, 03:01 AM

I wonder why they changed it...let's all ask Ayu on twitter, haha
It is strange to see the differences. Maybe they thought the idea of Ayu in an egg was a bad one? I don't know. That is weird.

Karori · #14 19th September 2010, 12:07 PM

"This video contains content from Avex Entertainment, Inc,. who has blocked it on copyright grounds."
I can't see the video either... What about if you upload it to Dailymotion or Vimeo, please?

Picaflor 7/4 · #15 19th September 2010, 02:51 PM

^I'm uploading it to vimeo as we speak. Actually I uploaded it 13 hours ago but it's telling me I have to "wait in line for my video to convert". I'll update when it's done.

Kanzaki · #16 19th September 2010, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4

^I'm uploading it to vimeo as we speak. Actually I uploaded it 13 hours ago but it's telling me I have to "wait in line for my video to convert". I'll update when it's done.

Yay!

thank you!

ohsixthirty · #17 19th September 2010, 04:54 PM

I compared the two a while back and also noticed that the coloring of the palace was different. I forgot which was which, but one version was more gold and the other more blue.

EDIT: my original post...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohsixthirty

you know, i just watched these side by side and realized that they edited out the closing of the egg around ayumi and the opening of the egg as well. i really can't comprehend why.

it looks like they also retouched the color. the palace is much more of a blue color in the alternate PV and much more brown on the MA DVD.

I would so love to know why they made these changes, especially some the TV version sequence is way better!

Karori · #18 19th September 2010, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4

^I'm uploading it to vimeo as we speak. Actually I uploaded it 13 hours ago but it's telling me I have to "wait in line for my video to convert". I'll update when it's done.

Thank you~!

Picaflor 7/4 · #19 20th September 2010, 12:03 AM

come one come all! I uploaded it to vimeo (although it took forever >>; ) check the original post for the link.

***ImpactBreaker*** · #20 20th September 2010, 04:09 AM

LOL I remember watching the TV version with friends and brothers and gross/sexual jokes popping up during the closing of the egg, so I guess that must be one of the reasons it got edited

I'd die and never know about this difference, though lol

Thanks for making the comparison. Makes me wonder which other ayu PVs must have gotten edited on their DVD versions, other than th well known extra part of Endless sorrow.