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Old 4th January 2005, 04:06 AM
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omg is it juz me?

ok..i have chinese satellite and during this break the channels had put on alot of MV's...stuff like Twins, Boy'z, Yumiko, Emme, Deep, Edision, 2R...my mom luvs watching the MVs...i don't get why...maybe it's because the stars are pretty good looking...but in my opinion, these new hk pop stars can't sing. The reason they are this famous is because they look pretty.But is it juz me??or is there someone out there that agrees with me?? I really don't get how the HK pop stars these days are discovered...dont get me wrong..i didn't say all HK singers are bad...some of them(n only that minority)...can sing
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Old 4th January 2005, 04:15 AM
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as much as I like TWINS (because of their acting mostly lol .. even if they aren't that good) they can't sing ... but their songs are so damn catchy and I think that's one reason for them being as big as they are
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Old 4th January 2005, 04:35 AM
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*sighs* what has the HK music industry turned in today???i mean..the main point of being a singer is to sing...projecting your talents...i don't mind if the singers don't look as good as they do now..what HK need now are singers that can actually sing!!see...Ayumi is pretty and she have musical talents!!!why can't we have more ayumi??
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Old 4th January 2005, 05:55 AM
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lol, that is true; people in hk are getting famous mostly because they got the looks. but now singers arent just singers anymore. people that sing are dragged into the acting business as well so maybe they get famous by acting. i dunno, i dont even know that i am saying O.O
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Old 4th January 2005, 06:08 AM
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I like Fiona Sit .. I think she sings really well
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Old 4th January 2005, 06:47 AM
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oo one more thing i forgot to point out...song writers these days in HK...they compose mediocre song melodies....omg i get so tired of hearing the same melody over and over!!not even a unique tone!!and one more thing...the singers ONLY seem to be on pitch in cd's and mv's..the reason for that is because they sing in those tiny weeny voices...when they sing live it's even worse...they sound worse than karaoke club regulars!!!omg!!!and the fans were cheering crazliy for them!!it gets me so mad because i believe that somewhere out there in HK..there are actually ppls who actually have desires to sing and have buncha talents but the problem is that they don't look as pleasant as the HK "singers" these days...i feel so disappointed in talent scouts ofthe music industry these days in HK..shame..cuz i came form HK...
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Old 4th January 2005, 06:52 AM
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I completely agree with you. I've been pondering for quite some time about this myself. Some Hong Kong people just can't sing. -__-;; I'm not saying I'm any better but they shouldn't be on stage. It's rather disappointing. My mom thinks TWINS are retarded XDD
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Old 4th January 2005, 07:00 AM
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Oh hum. Another one of these threads.

The same thing happens in Japan, you just don't notice it. Hundreds of untalented idols with weak voices and terrible music come out in Japan every year.

Most people who adopt your opinion aren't very aware of HK music and they draw conclusions immediately. Alot actually like untalented artists themselves, only that they're Japanese.

For every bad singer you can name, I can name a good one.

Wilfred Lau, Ella Koon, Fiona Sit, Jade Kwan, at17, Maggie Fu, Pong Nan, Chet Lam, GarLum, Jolie Chan are just some of the talented artists in recent years, some with very good live singing, and others such as Pong Nan, Chet Lam, at17 and Maggie Fu being composer/song writers also.

And Deep is actually a pretty good live singer. Ayumi however......
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Old 4th January 2005, 07:13 AM
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My mom thinks TWINS are retarded XDD
ooo yes omg someone that agrees...they ARE retarded..i mean come on..they are not lil kids anymore..they are heading towards their mid 20's...stop acting like lil kids!!!too bad...my mommy thinks they are cute...well speaking of retarded 2R's retardedness is sooooo much worse than Twins..have you guys checked out their new MV??the one wid them singing with mics???omg i felt like banging my head on the wall everytime i hear that...my mommy luvs to watch those...so i juz go in my room and play Ayumi's music FULL BLAST!!woot!!
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yes Jade Kwan is good..she has talents i heard her sing..and her vocal range can go really high and not go out of pitch..but Fiona..ehhh gotta sing louder...shes one of those singers that sings in their tiny weeny lil voices...i've never heard her sing live thou hehe

omg will someone help me???HK music industry is like going outta standards..MUSIC is like a 99.9% chunk of my life!!!my mommy is like obsessed with the showbiz industry!!and those crazy MVs!!!
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Old 4th January 2005, 09:21 AM
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Haha, Hong Kong music industry pretty much died with Faye.. since the mid 90s, there hasn't been anything interesting there.

It really is a disaster nowadays. I remember back in the days, I would be watching a live performance and hope that someone would sing off key, so I could have a laugh, but nowadays, it's bingo every single performance and just not funny anymore

It's beg to differ when you say that for every bad singer there is a good one. I don't think Hong Kong singers pass mediocre level. Maybe 2 or 3, but that's really it. People just can't sing nowadays. Plus, those who can sing are most often shadowed by those who cannot sing. The most popular (e.g. Joey Yung, Twins, 2R, Boy'Z, etc) dominate the whole industry. And people who truely have talent (e.g. HoCC) have no chance in succeeding, because they don't have the "support".

I don't think we'll ever relive the glorious old days, when people truely could sing, and talent equals succes.

And the MV's: 4 words: Low Quality and Cheap.
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And people who truely have talent (e.g. HoCC) have no chance in succeeding, because they don't have the "support".
That's not true. She's rapidly on the rise after more exposure from hosting JSG and having an image change. She's now one of the top 5 most popular female artist.
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cantopop is complete trash.
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And the MV's: 4 words: Low Quality and Cheap.
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lol, Canto-POP isn't ALL trash. There are a few good talented artists out there, but the majority of them can't really perform.

I used to like Twins a lot but they're really just losing it now, like, some tracks off Magic onwards period. I try to keep up with other ones like Kelly, Jade and Joey but it's all too much, and more and more are coming out these days.

Basically, for the HK Music Industry, I go by this rule: If you look pretty, you're in. If you can't sing, we'll teach you. If you can't act, we'll help you. Simple as that.
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Old 4th January 2005, 12:31 PM
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Id have to say Joey Yung is one of the Best HK singers , she seems to be the only one that can sing in tune during a live concert as I have been to one, and I dont think its just because of her looks she get record deal.

But I do agree that a majority cannot sing properly. Twins and Boy'z more based on their looks than singing, during live performance very outta tune and flat and boring...
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Id have to say Joey Yung is one of the Best HK singers , she seems to be the only one that can sing in tune during a live concert as I have been to one, and I dont think its just because of her looks she get record deal.
Then it must have been a very special concert. The once I saw, was extreme out of tone, and to make matters worse, she tried to play the flute, only she was too exausted to play it. Humiliating. I would almost rate it as *fatality*, excuse me, *F A T A L I T Y*. Imo, she is one of the worst.

And about the looks, tastes differ, I guess... alot..

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That's not true. She's rapidly on the rise after more exposure from hosting JSG and having an image change. She's now one of the top 5 most popular female artist.
True, she is on the rise, but still *far* behind on Joey, Miriam, Twins, etc. But I don't think she will ever make it to the top (i.e. most sales award) with the music she's creating, which in my opinion is very good, but to the average HK buyer is bad.

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cantopop is complete trash.
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That's quite a conclusion you draw there. A bit rushed, maybe?
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I have been listening to the latest cantopop in a while so I don't really know who's talented or not but I know enough to say that singers like Twins and Boy'z cannot sing. They're not even that pretty or good looking either. Oh and I really don't like boy bands that dance *coughs*Boy'z*coughs*
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Old 4th January 2005, 05:14 PM
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have any of you heard of The Marshmallow Kisses? They're pretty new and released their EP not too long ago ... I really like their music .. its very chilled .. though in English
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well i wouldn't say that juzzzzz yet...because i can list a lil number of good unaffected HK pop singers..but note...the number is less than 15>.<
i heard that all these talentless singers are all signed to the same record company!!!and the company is supported by a triad!!!
and one more thing..yes sometimes the "singers" are not that pretty..but they juz have to sleep with the right person to get famous....like Yumiko...i heard that she had an affair with the owner of the record company!omg and some of these singers are excessively skinny!!!anerexic!!!like Emme..shes not even pretty!!!she got nth but bones these days...not only her but other skinny bones too...
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