Why aren't these remixes in the contest??

[walking proud]

Why aren’t these remixes in the contest when it was stated they would be?

Connected "Push Radio Edit"
M "Above & Beyond Typhoon dub/vocal mix"
Fly high "VooDoo & Serano extended mix"
Depend on you "Svenson & Gielen club mix"

Unless they correspond with these mixes:

Connected "Talla 2XLC Radio Edit"
M "Above & Beyond Mix"
Fly high "VooDoo & Serano remix"
Depend on you "Svenson & Gielen Mix"

If so…
What if I picked two? What if it won? Would it count as me picking both them right?
And what if I lost? Would it count as me picking the ones that weren’t in the contest wrong along with the ones that were in the contest wrong, although they never had a chance in the first place?

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by bates

Why aren’t these remixes in the contest when it was stated they would be?

Connected "Push Radio Edit"
M "Above & Beyond Typhoon dub/vocal mix"
Fly high "VooDoo & Serano extended mix"
Depend on you "Svenson & Gielen club mix"

I just double-checked the bracket spreadsheet and jpeg. Those 4 mixes are not there. When was it stated they were part of the contest?

[walking proud]

Originally Posted by nmskalmn

I just double-checked the bracket spreadsheet and jpeg. Those 4 mixes are not there. When was it stated they were part of the contest?

I copy and pasted my entries right from the threads so they must've been on there...

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by bates

I copy and pasted my entries right from the threads so they must've been on there...

You are mistaken. The contest announcement has not been changed since the time it was posted. The 4 remixes you list were never included in the bracket.

[walking proud]

Originally Posted by nmskalmn

You are mistaken. The contest announcement has not been changed since the time it was posted. The 4 remixes you list were never included in the bracket.

I wouldn't've just "randomly added" remixes from other places. I COPY and PASTED every one of my entries exactly from the threads that stated they were going to be in the contest. Although I didn't look at the image/spreadsheet, I figured if they were linked to then they would not be in the thread.

I would not try to "mess up" the system by adding extra entries. That's foolish. I just figured I couldn't go wrong by Copy and Pasting the song names directly from the thread; considering they were "supposed" to be in the contest.

So those entires aren't going to count, even though they were stated to be in the contest and they never had a chance..?

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by bates

I wouldn't've just "randomly added" remixes from other places. I COPY and PASTED every one of my entries exactly from the threads that stated they were going to be in the contest. Although I didn't look at the image/spreadsheet, I figured if they were linked to then they would not be in the thread.

I would not try to "mess up" the system by adding extra entries. That's foolish. I just figured I couldn't go wrong by Copy and Pasting the song names directly from the thread; considering they were "supposed" to be in the contest.

So those entires aren't going to count, even though they were stated to be in the contest and they never had a chance..?

There are only three places where the 32 tournament remixes are listed:
the bracket jpeg
the bracket spreadsheet
the DL topic
Again, those 4 remixes you listed were never named in any of these three places.

Originally Posted by bates

Although I didn't look at the image/spreadsheet, I figured if they were linked to then they would not be in the thread.

It is necessary to look at the bracket in order to generate a valid entry.

[walking proud]

Originally Posted by nmskalmn

There are only three places where the 32 tournament remixes are listed:
the bracket jpeg
the bracket spreadsheet
the DL topic
Again, those 4 remixes you listed were never named in any of these three places.


It is necessary to look at the bracket in order to generate a valid entry.

No. There was one more place, and that was in a thread that had a list of everything in it.

1) How could I have copy and pasted the entries directly from a JPEG?
2) I don't have something that could unzip the spreadsheet so I obviously didn't use that
and
3) The download topic wasn't up the time I was copy and pasting these entries (You can see at the beginning where people are asking for the remixes to be uploaded? It wasn't uploaded until later.)

There was specifically a topic (maybe something from the library) that named all the remixes, and there were links to each seperate CD. This is how I COPY and PASTED each entry. I was not looking at anything else besides this forum, and I do not know the remixes well enough to add random ones or pick ones out of thin air..

[walking proud]

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33785 <- The official thread for the contest states such:

"The Remixes
The remixes for this Tournament were selected from the following CDs:
appears CDS (Drizzly)
Connected CDS (Drizzly)
Cyber TRANCE presents ayu trance
Cyber TRANCE presents ayu trance 2
Free & Easy CDS
M CDS (Drizzly)
Naturally CDS (Drizzly)
RMX WORKS from Cyber TRANCE presents ayu trance 3
SUPER BEST TRANCE presents SUPER J-TRANCE BEST"

And then it gives links to each of the CDS. I clicked each link and picked out my choices, assuming all songs were fair game considering it was posted as such. Now if you look, it's clearly stated that these songs are on the remix albums:

Connected "Push Radio Edit" from "Connected"
M "Above & Beyond Typhoon dub/vocal mix" from "M"
Fly high "VooDoo & Serano extended mix"
Depend on you "Svenson & Gielen Mix" from "Depend on You"


.. So, as you can see, I was mislead to believe that all tracks were included on the album, because no clear information was given that not all the tracks would be in the contest, therefore making me choose at least 4 songs which didn't even have a chance.

[Halla]

'Fly high "VooDoo & Serano extended mix" ' does this even exist ?

and a remix is only featured once , club mixes and dubs are basically just a different versions of the same remix. like with 'Depend on you (Svenson & Gielen mix)'

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by bates

So, as you can see, I was mislead to believe that all tracks were included on the album, because no clear information was given that not all the tracks would be in the contest, therefore making me choose at least 4 songs which didn't even have a chance.

It's very clear that the problem is that you do not understand how a tournament works. The albums that the remixes were selected from were provided for reference, so anyone could easily check the remixer credits, etc. It certainly was not implied that every track on those CDs was going to be in the contest. There are over 70 tracks on those CDs. How did you think you could know which 32 were selected for the tournament without consulting the bracket? It is 100% necessary to use the bracket in order to participate. Where to obtain the bracket was clearly stated and not misleading.

Originally Posted by bates

3) The download topic wasn't up the time I was copy and pasting these entries (You can see at the beginning where people are asking for the remixes to be uploaded? It wasn't uploaded until later.)

You are mistaken in this also. The announcement and download topic were first prepared in a staff forum then made public at the same time. There was no delay. If you look at the time the topics were made you will see that the DL topic was actually posted before the tournament announcement.

[Taishaku]

Who cares about those remixes???
I really missed WHATEVER (Ferry Corsten 'System F' Radio Remix Edit), Fly high (Vincent De Moor Remix) and Far away (RANK 1 Remix)... u.u

[walking proud]

I care about them because I picked them for the contest and now I'm out 4 entries which possibly could've been winning entries.

[jerms]

i think all he wnats to know is if his entry will be counted or not..or will he get 4 wrong answers for sure.

[boogieordie]

Love Appears - I don't understand how it was even possible for her to submit an entry without looking at the bracket. We're not going to read through each one and make sure that the initiate read it correctly, that's a very basic thing that we cannot be held responsible for. I don't know what to say other than the list was stated multiple times never included any of the songs and was never changed. How those songs got on her entry are beyond my comprehension. Obviously there was some misunderstanding about how the tournament, at its basic level, is run. There was plenty of time for any questions to be asked and answered between when the contest was announced and when voting began. That would have been the ideal time to address issues on how the contest is run rather than trying to deal with it after the fact.

bates - Just like you wouldn't screw up your own bracket randomly, we most certainly would not screw up the entire contest on purpose. It just doesn't make any sense, especially since there is much more at risk if we screw it up. Instead of accusing us of being less honest prehaps you should stop, answer the questions being asked, and legitimately try to figure out where the problem occured.

[walking proud]

Originally Posted by AyuRocks

Love Appears - I don't understand how it was even possible for her to submit an entry without looking at the bracket. We're not going to read through each one and make sure that the initiate read it correctly, that's a very basic thing that we cannot be held responsible for. I don't know what to say other than the list was stated multiple times never included any of the songs and was never changed. How those songs got on her entry are beyond my comprehension. Obviously there was some misunderstanding about how the tournament, at its basic level, is run. There was plenty of time for any questions to be asked and answered between when the contest was announced and when voting began. That would have been the ideal time to address issues on how the contest is run rather than trying to deal with it after the fact.

bates - Just like you wouldn't screw up your own bracket randomly, we most certainly would not screw up the entire contest on purpose. It just doesn't make any sense, especially since there is much more at risk if we screw it up. Instead of accusing us of being less honest prehaps you should stop, answer the questions being asked, and legitimately try to figure out where the problem occured.

I know what the problem was and the only thing I wish to know is will those entries count or will they be completely voided?

[boogieordie]

The staff knowing what the problem was is necessary in deciding what to do, and also helpful with future contests. At this point it seems that it was your error so more than likely there will be no change in the entry.

[walking proud]

Originally Posted by AyuRocks

The staff knowing what the problem was is necessary in deciding what to do, and also helpful with future contests. At this point it seems that it was your error so more than likely there will be no change in the entry.

The problem was that you said that there was going to be "select songs entering the contest" but you linked to a page where it had all the songs listed from each single and they weren't clearly marked as to which ones were exactly in the contest. I didn't use the "Downloads" page to choose nor the other things provided, I used the exact thread that's linked earlier on this page..

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by bates

I know what the problem was and the only thing I wish to know is will those entries count or will they be completely voided?

Points are awarded only for correct guesses. You cannot be credited points for any of the 4 songs in your initial post because they are not in the contest.

[walking proud]

Originally Posted by nmskalmn

Points are awarded only for correct guesses. You cannot be credited points for any of the 4 songs in your initial post because they are not in the contest.

Well, it's not really a big deal because I didn't think I was going to win anyway, but if I lose by exactly 4 I'm going to demand a recount.. <_<

[boogieordie]

Originally Posted by walking proud

The problem was that you said that there was going to be "select songs entering the contest" but you linked to a page where it had all the songs listed from each single and they weren't clearly marked as to which ones were exactly in the contest. I didn't use the "Downloads" page to choose nor the other things provided, I used the exact thread that's linked earlier on this page..

No. What was said was that the songs that were being used were selected from those CDs. Not to randomly pick songs from those CDs for the contest. There were obviously more than 32 songs on all those CDs, how would it have even remotely worked if we told people simply to select any 32 songs to go up against eachother?

The remixes for this Tournament were selected from the following CDs

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...469#post544469

Was exactly what it said the entire time that thread existed.

The songs were only ever stated in the DL topic and the brackets. That's what you should have looked at to find the list. Because you misunderstood doesn't mean that you were mislead or that we screwed up. You simply misunderstood how the contest is run.

This chart shows the pairings for the first round: AHS Best Ayu Trance Remix Tournament

That was the important part in the announcement and one of the places where the 32 remixes were listed.

Anywho, what it comes down to is a misunderstanding. Your question about your entry has been answered.