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12th October 2006, 12:55 PM
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4 HOT WAVE: mini album or single?
Objection! I was just thinking the other day and I don't think it's fair that 4 Hot Wave was classified as a single. Is it even a single? It's so much like a mini album. In fact, I believe it's indeed a mini album.
Because if it wasn't one, then Mika Nakashima's Oborodzukiyo Inori should also have been a single. And Resistance. Memorial Address has around the same amount of tracks with 4 Hot Wave too if you count the interludes. 4 A-sides on one CD? Isn't there some sort of format for CD single? I know western one's has a 20 minute limit if there's accompanying tracks or 40 (60?) if there's remixes chucked in. Isn't there a standard for Japanese singles? Because if there aren't, Ayu might as well call her next mini album a maxi single. Last edited by Mad_Cactuar; 12th October 2006 at 12:58 PM. 
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12th October 2006, 01:31 PM
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I haven't listened to the introduction and interludes in 4 hot wave. Do they share melodic themes with the four songs, or are they tracks that can stand apart?
If they sound quite similar to the four songs, then I'm inclined to say that 4 hot wave is a maxi-single. If they sound very differently, then I personally think that 4 hot wave was a mini-album marketed as a maxi-single. I don't think overall length is that important. If someone put out Sonic Youth's Diamond Sea as a single (with a B-side, theoretically), then it certainly goes beyond the time limit of Western singles (as you say). And still it's only one complete song.
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12th October 2006, 01:34 PM
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"A" was a single. It had 4 A-sides too, so I don't see why 4 hot wave should be considered a mini album instead....
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12th October 2006, 01:36 PM
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A was the size of an album, wasn't it? Like 10/12 tracks?
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12th October 2006, 01:38 PM
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A had 4 A-sides? Ouch. I missed that. x__x
But are there any standards for singles?
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12th October 2006, 03:08 PM
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^ I don't know... But like everyone said.. Ayu's A was like 14 tracks...
So if she can get away with 14 tracks I don't see how Kuu can't get away with 4 A-sides and 3 interludes... Suzuki Ami's Little Crystal was a 4 A-side single... But Avex was cruel to her and didn't promote them...
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12th October 2006, 03:11 PM
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Another Kuu thread... Wow
I think it should of stayed a single. 4 song mini album? That's a bit stupid lol
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#8
12th October 2006, 03:19 PM
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4 + 3 (4?) if Interludes are counted.
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12th October 2006, 04:09 PM
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I never knew either... I was just doing some reading on Suzuki Ami and I found that Little Crystal was a 4-A single too... Ayu's done 4-A singles too anyways... I don't think we should care too much about this anyways...
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12th October 2006, 04:17 PM
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I think A was the only Ayu 4-A side single. & was three A-sides and a B-side (theme of A-nation).
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12th October 2006, 05:08 PM
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a mini album would have been more expensive...
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12th October 2006, 07:01 PM
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I say it's a single, because Avex said it was single.
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12th October 2006, 07:06 PM
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It charted as a single on ORICON...
...but who says that ORICON has to set the rules for what a single/mini album is?
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12th October 2006, 07:18 PM
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According to the norms, yeah, but in the end it's up to everyone to judge for themselves.
It's freakin' long.
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12th October 2006, 07:58 PM
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I dunno. I consider it an EP (which.... I guess would be a mini-album, but.... ummm... hey, look! A chair!) - the intro, outro, and interlude definitely don't feel like something you'd put on a single single.
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12th October 2006, 07:59 PM
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Isn't EP a completely other medium?
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13th October 2006, 01:58 AM
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An EP is a mini-album.
Imo, it's a single. Another example: Mr. Children's "4 dimensions".
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13th October 2006, 04:20 AM
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the way i see 4 hot wave as a minialbum...
1. intro/interlude/outro 2. no instrumental (although this can be debatable, just look at hikki's single)
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It still had music on it, and people still snapped it up.
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