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Old 29th December 2016, 04:55 PM
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Because, you know, it's important to share.
And some people just can't afford to buy every BD or DVD she releases, because it is really expensive... And I think it's important to share those stuff with them.
Wow.

More important than supporting the artist?

I first heard of Ayu in 2013 or so, and the first thing I did was download all of her material, I'll admit it. However, since then, I've been purchasing as much of her stuff as I can find - I'm down to 2 or 3 CDs I still don't have, and I'm now in the process of purchasing her concerts - the last order I placed just before Christmas was over $250, and the one before that, around $120 if I recall.

I *already* have all of that stuff, downloaded in great quality - 320kbps MP3s or FLACs for audio, and 1080p for video (unless it doesn't even exist in that format, such as the early concerts). I'm certainly under no obligation to purchase her stuff, but **it's the right thing to do**.

I'm definitely *NOT* expecting everyone to do the same--it would be downright arrogant from my part to do so--but to claim it's "important to share with those who can't afford it"...it blows my mind as to how misguided this thought process is.

That said...I'm looking forward to downloading the first 1080p rip that gets posted. Am I going to purchase it eventually? Yes, absolutely. But please, PLEASE...don't spread the idea that "it's important to share" without rewarding the artist. If everybody did that, at one point she'd have no reason to continue and she'd just quit. *If* her music label didn't drop her first, and *their* decision to do that is based on sales.
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Old 29th December 2016, 07:46 PM
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Wow.

More important than supporting the artist?

I first heard of Ayu in 2013 or so, and the first thing I did was download all of her material, I'll admit it. However, since then, I've been purchasing as much of her stuff as I can find - I'm down to 2 or 3 CDs I still don't have, and I'm now in the process of purchasing her concerts - the last order I placed just before Christmas was over $250, and the one before that, around $120 if I recall.

I *already* have all of that stuff, downloaded in great quality - 320kbps MP3s or FLACs for audio, and 1080p for video (unless it doesn't even exist in that format, such as the early concerts). I'm certainly under no obligation to purchase her stuff, but **it's the right thing to do**.

I'm definitely *NOT* expecting everyone to do the same--it would be downright arrogant from my part to do so--but to claim it's "important to share with those who can't afford it"...it blows my mind as to how misguided this thought process is.

That said...I'm looking forward to downloading the first 1080p rip that gets posted. Am I going to purchase it eventually? Yes, absolutely. But please, PLEASE...don't spread the idea that "it's important to share" without rewarding the artist. If everybody did that, at one point she'd have no reason to continue and she'd just quit. *If* her music label didn't drop her first, and *their* decision to do that is based on sales.
I never said I was only downloading Ayu's stuff and never bought anything... On the contrary!
There was a time I could afford to buy every single, every album, every version of all she released. But now I just can't.
I will always support her. And eventually buy this blu-ray, when I can actually afford it.

Ayu has fans all around the world... Not everyone can afford to buy a 70$ blu-ray.

What do you really think that keeps Ayu doing what's she's doing. Money? I think she has enough of it and could take her retreat anytime she wants.
It's the main reason why I love her so much. She's sincere. When she's on stage, she gives everything she has. She has a real connexion with hers fans, with us.

I'm not saying we shouldn't pay for anything, not at all! But if I hadn't download a rip version of the AT 2005, I wouldn't have known Ayu. So, i think that sharing stuff between fans is an important thing. It's not about who has the biggest collection or went to see her in Japan the most. It's about our love for her. We all have different ways to express it and we all love her for different reasons.

But like I said, it's my point of view. I'm not blaming anyone. One is free to do what he wants ;-)
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Old 30th December 2016, 11:16 PM
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I never said I was only downloading Ayu's stuff and never bought anything...
...and I didn't accuse you of that. All I said was that I was objecting to the idea that "it's important to share with those who can't afford her stuff". Frankly, I'm all for the sharing if the intent is to broaden her exposure (*I*, for one, would never have heard of her if not for outright piracy). I draw the line, however, when the stated purpose of sharing is to provide the material to those who "can't afford it". That is simply making it too easy to remove all incentive for someone to save money to buy *something*, even if it's just one CD that's on sale for a few bucks. I hope you understand the distinction I'm trying to make?

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What do you really think that keeps Ayu doing what's she's doing. Money? I think she has enough of it and could take her retreat anytime she wants.
But, what do *you* think keeps her on contract with her music label? That is all about money, money that comes from sales. I'm not worried about her having more than enough money to afford a lavish lifestyle until the end of her days. I'm worried that if her sales hit rock bottom and Avex decides to let her go, that's all the music (and shows) we're going to get from her. And that would be the tragedy for all of us who call ourselves fans.
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