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Old 10th June 2006, 12:34 AM
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What's your point? Ayu performed Startin' before (miss) understood was even released. It's totally possible they filmed the video a year ago because it would conflict with touring etc.

Maybe, I haven't sene the pictures from off my day in awhile but it's pretty similar.

I don't know if we have any official confirmation that it's not Hawaii or not..

Just saying that it looks pretty similar...
so you're saying that ayu made Blue bird song a year ago and she said.. hmm i'm gonna save this song for my 40th single.. i guess not..

She performed Startin at the CDL because the videogame Onimusha was released in january 14.. its a close date.. not a year

and why just hawaii.. there are TONS of places that look the same all around the world

i'm just saying
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I don't like how some of you say "Well, what can you expect from a summer song? A dark PV?". It's not because it's a "summer song" that the PV has to take place in a beach like all of her summer songs' PV. Personally, I don't like the whole beach theme at all. It lacks originality.
It's a summer song. Most summer songs are either on the beach or somewhere bright and happy like a party or something of that sort. You can't expect a summer song with the theme of STEP you or rainy days. That's what I meant. The song is upbeat, happy and bright so you cannot expect a different setting. When I heard the song I imagined a tropical island because that's the image most would get with such a song. It might lack originality but I clearly do not think there are many other alternatives on summer songs with this type of theme.
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Old 10th June 2006, 12:37 AM
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I liked the idea someone put out about a mermaid or something. She doesn't even swim. Well, there's jumping in the water, but there's no swimming. They could've done more than just jumping around on a boat.
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Old 10th June 2006, 12:40 AM
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NO it's nonthing like FAIRYLAND!! It's soo much better than fairyland to tell the truth and overall I really enjoyed the PV it was back to the basic it was just fun and interesting to watch and I think a lot of times it's better to be back to the basic things!! I REALLY LOVE IT!! A+!!!
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I liked the idea someone put out about a mermaid or something. She doesn't even swim. Well, there's jumping in the water, but there's no swimming. They could've done more than just jumping around on a boat.

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they could have drown in the ocean.. or maybe tried to swim for their lives XD

why the boat didnt sink anyway?


the place in Fairyland got burned..

ITS NOT FAIR!!!
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It's a summer song. Most summer songs are either on the beach or somewhere bright and happy like a party or something of that sort. You can't expect a summer song with the theme of STEP you or rainy days. That's what I meant. The song is upbeat, happy and bright so you cannot expect a different setting. When I heard the song I imagined a tropical island because that's the image most would get with such a song. It might lack originality but I clearly do not think there are many other alternatives on summer songs with this type of theme.
"BLUE BIRD" is a pop song, not just a summer song. It doesn't have to take place in a beach. I could very much see Ayu on the streets with friends having fun, splashing people with water guns, Ayu singing in a karaoke bar, doing silly stuff... If she's going to be in a beach, she could have at least done something cooler like singing with her band barefoot.

Hummm, I remember a few weeks ago, I said: "I hope the PV doesn't take place in a tropical/exotic island or something like that!". And now it is.
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mixed feelings i see here....i guess those who dislike the song and PV have already given themselves the impression that Ayu is lacking this and that etc.
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What's your point? Ayu performed Startin' before (miss) understood was even released. It's totally possible they filmed the video a year ago because it would conflict with touring etc.

Maybe, I haven't sene the pictures from off my day in awhile but it's pretty similar.

I don't know if we have any official confirmation that it's not Hawaii or not..

Just saying that it looks pretty similar...
Well, I don't think they filmed the video a year ago... They would need to have the song a year ago as well... I think that would be going way too far ahead of schedule - to film a PV year ahead.

The pics from (miss)understood booklet seem to be from the Fairyland peroid. On the other hand, that would mean they shot them almost half a year ahead : It's confusing...

As for singing Startin', she sang it on CDL, which was like... day before album's release, I think?...

Last year there was a similar situation -- she was touring, she sang STEPyou at the tour and right after the tour she released STEPyou/is this LOVE? along with two PVs. Although, I suppouse they were way easier to film, I think it's possible they could go filming during the tour. Haven't checked out the schedule carefully enough, but I think they do have some spare time between some of the performances.
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I thought it looked a lot like fairyland.. but I actually like this clip better for some reason.... it seems as though her dancers were paid to go on a holiday.. lucky people!
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It's a summer song. Most summer songs are either on the beach or somewhere bright and happy like a party or something of that sort. You can't expect a summer song with the theme of STEP you or rainy days. That's what I meant. The song is upbeat, happy and bright so you cannot expect a different setting. When I heard the song I imagined a tropical island because that's the image most would get with such a song. It might lack originality but I clearly do not think there are many other alternatives on summer songs with this type of theme.
I agree with this. Its just that she keeps on giving us this "one" genre of summer songs, that just happen to create tons of images about the beach, etc. There is more than one way to create a summer song, and that is what she needs to work on. Something like Chihiro Onitsuka's "Sign" comes to mind. I would absolutely die if Ayu made a song like that, it'd be wonderful.
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Old 10th June 2006, 12:44 AM
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I guess Avex forgot they could use some computer animation to make the PV just a bit more interesting. Oh wellll
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Old 10th June 2006, 12:47 AM
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"BLUE BIRD" is a pop song, not just a summer song. It doesn't have to take place in a beach. I could very much see Ayu on the streets with friends having fun, splashing people with water guns, Ayu singing in a karaoke bar, doing silly stuff... If she's going to be in a beach, she could have at least done something cooler like singing with her band barefoot.

Hummm, I remember a few weeks ago, I said: "I hope the PV doesn't take place in a tropical/exotic island or something like that!". And now it is.
Yes it is a pop song but in the end it's a summer song and a summer setting is pretty much obvious.

Yeah well I didn't say this song had to be in a beach. I just mentioned that this type of song is expected to have a setting which is happy and stuff like that and the beach is one of those. It could be something else but in the end it was pretty much expected to be at a beach or something similar. She could have done cooler stuff but then that's another factor which is originality. I don't think this pv is really original at all. It's just a fun pv to enjoy and such.
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it seems as though her dancers were paid to go on a holiday.. lucky people!
Oh, you so know what I mean!
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Something like Chihiro Onitsuka's "Sign" comes to mind. I would absolutely die if Ayu made a song like that, it'd be wonderful.
Really? I must check that song then... sounds promising...
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I guess Avex forgot they could use some computer animation to make the PV just a bit more interesting. Oh wellll
What do you think they could add there? Cuz I don't have much of ideas... come to think of it...

CG butterflies maybe? or CG parrot sitting on her arm? Oh but that could've been done even without CG...
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Well, let's analyze lyrics, shall we? XD

"When the clouds drift away
The sky will stop crying"
I was awakened by your voice
From my sleep, a little bit long

* You calmly watched my wings
Waiting for the season to take off

"Let's go together across the blue sky
Looking down on the white sand beach
No need to have a serious talk
I need nothing except your smile"
You said so and smiled to me


Beach = where this PV belongs. xD

All I know is, Beautiful Fighters is going to probably be the better half, PV-wise. :] /dances in a fire

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Demure_Dusk, you're just saying that it should be at a beach. Shame her last two summer(ish) pop songs were at a beach. Lack of ideas, it seems. It's already been played out. She needs to move on. The formula is getting old.
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But she wrote in DejiDeji that she was filming two PVs in june.. So I assume this was one of them? Nevertheless, it's interesting whats been pointd out. She does remind me of the fariyland-period (her hair is the same etc etc) And that can also explain the Hawaiian-scenery. Maybe we'll know in thr making-of clip! Still, I doubt it is a year old
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No I'm just saying that this kind of song gets a summerish setting but it seems many don't seem to get this. I agree it's not original but I don't think there are many alternative settings for happy summer songs such as there are for deeper songs/ballads, etc.

Also I find it doubtful that this pv was filmed a year ago.
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Yes it is a pop song but in the end it's a summer song and a summer setting is pretty much obvious.

Yeah well I didn't say this song had to be in a beach. I just mentioned that this type of song is expected to have a setting which is happy and stuff like that and the beach is one of those. It could be something else but in the end it was pretty much expected to be at a beach or something similar. She could have done cooler stuff but then that's another factor which is originality. I don't think this pv is really original at all. It's just a fun pv to enjoy and such.
Oh well, I guess everybody has different views. (By the way, I wasn't actually talking about what you said when I wrote that I didn't like how some said "What do you expect....")

Now, I really really really hope "Beautiful Fighters" is good...
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It think it was a higher budget PV, I'm sure they spend loads at least on the trip there... Not sure where it was shot (I'm almost sure it was NOT Dubai, Dubai is all deserts), but I guess they made a use of the fact they're going and had some holiday time as well... which overall makes the whole production not low budget at all.
I'm actually wondering if some of the footage was actually shot last year in Hawaii. When I get some time I'm gonna look at those Hawaii pictures and compare. But at first glance, everyones hair looks the same as before, outfits look familiar etc etc. Even Ayu's tan line is the same. So I'll see, when I get more time to really go back and compare.

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Well, I don't think they filmed the video a year ago... They would need to have the song a year ago as well... I think that would be going way too far ahead of schedule - to film a PV year ahead.
Many of the shots in this video could have been done without having the song first. There aren't too many shots in it where Ayu is cleary singing the words to the song.

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I think it's a bit weird that people think it doesn't belong on a beach when she's so obviously talking about a beach in the song.. >>

That's like saying 'Ooo I'm happy sunshine flower love' and you're in this emo dark forest. >> I think it fits~
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