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Old 16th November 2008, 02:55 PM
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Thanks for your answer.
But if so, should I also change the word "keep" in the next line to "keeps"?
-And keep myself away from anything leading to hope
Actually I would use "keeping", it sounds a little more grammatically correct to me.
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Old 16th November 2008, 03:46 PM
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Actually I would use "keeping", it sounds a little more grammatically correct to me.
If you look at the whole sentence, keeping will not look right. It has to make sense with this:

"Just like me who is afraid of the warmth
And keep myself away from anything leading to hope"


I'm not sure which would be right though: keep or keeps, though I have a feeling "keeps" would look a bit awkward.
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Old 16th November 2008, 07:33 PM
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If you look at the whole sentence, keeping will not look right. It has to make sense with this:

"Just like me who is afraid of the warmth
And keep myself away from anything leading to hope"


I'm not sure which would be right though: keep or keeps, though I have a feeling "keeps" would look a bit awkward.
It's a tough call, but if you use "keeps", I would write it like this:

"Just like me who is afraid of the warmth
And keeps themselves away from anything leading to hope"

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That was sarcasm. Let me put it in plain English: Your snappy comments, not just here, but in every other thread where you think you are the person with the ultimately correct opinion on the subject, are not appreciated.
In general I haven't had a problem with Melrose's posts at all, at least from what I have read (I don't really read every thread), but that one just kind of threw me because my post really didn't have anything negative directed at Melrose at all.

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Old 16th November 2008, 07:40 PM
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Thank you very much for the beautiful translation masa.

Ayu is a poet, beautiful & sweet lyrics ^^
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Old 17th November 2008, 01:29 AM
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If you look at the whole sentence, keeping will not look right. It has to make sense with this:

"Just like me who is afraid of the warmth
And keep myself away from anything leading to hope"


I'm not sure which would be right though: keep or keeps, though I have a feeling "keeps" would look a bit awkward.
"keep" would be the correct way i'm pretty sure. because she's talking about herself so it would be like

"i keep myself away..." not "i keeps myself away..."
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Old 17th November 2008, 05:46 AM
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Keeping is still grammatically correct. It really doesn't make a difference--they're both correct and mean the same thing. In regular sentence structure, it looks like this:

"Just like me, who is afraid of the warmth, keeping myself away from anything leading to hope."

"Just like me, who is afraid of the warmth, and keep myself away from anything leading to hope."

It's just a matter of personal preference. I prefer the first one because it's slightly more concise, but some people probably find the second one clearer.
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Old 17th November 2008, 03:03 PM
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Keeping is still grammatically correct. It really doesn't make a difference--they're both correct and mean the same thing. In regular sentence structure, it looks like this:

"Just like me, who is afraid of the warmth, keeping myself away from anything leading to hope."

"Just like me, who is afraid of the warmth, and keep myself away from anything leading to hope."
Oh, that's true. I can see it now. Thanks for pointing it out.

About the comparisons, can you guys just stop it? We should be grateful to everyone who attempted doing a translation. We should be able to read, appreciate and be thankful for them. At least for us who know absolutely nothing or very little of japanese, which I believe is the majority here.
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Old 17th November 2008, 05:19 AM
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Ni hao, masa, and many thanks for another fantastic translation! I always look forward to your posts; they make me appreciate Ayu's songs even more!

Also, regarding your question:

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Thanks for your answer.
But if so, should I also change the word "keep" in the next line to "keeps"?
-And keep myself away from anything leading to hope
I agree, 'keeps' would be more fitting. Since 'me' is singular, the verbs following 'me who' should be singular, too, hence 'is' and 'keeps'.

I further suggest 'keeps herself', since the subject is most likely female and uses 'me' to talk about herself (or himself) in the third person. I hope I helped!
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Old 16th November 2008, 05:08 PM
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WAA Masa thank you so much!! I always use your translations in english to translate them into catalan (co-official lenguage in spain ^^)!! Thanks to the other translators of course, but I understand the song better with your translations ^^!!

Really a beautifull lyrics, i love the first and last paragraph!!
ayu is again in love?? ^^
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Old 16th November 2008, 05:21 PM
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Thank you so much, masa!

Wow, I'm really loving these lyrics! They feel so fresh and new. And they're beautiful as usual!
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Old 16th November 2008, 05:50 PM
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Thanks for the translation.

I was waiting for a part like the every last since the time the first verse was known. It's very much like her to end the song with a hopeful thought, like she did in "winding road".

One thing, though: I personally would prefer to translate it as "that person" instead of "he". ayus love songs are usually subtle and delicate, that's why I feel saying "he" is too direct. I think she sings about someone she doesn't yet know. About a future encounter or love. So refering to him as "that person" creates a small atmosphere of mystery.
But those are only my thoughts...
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Old 16th November 2008, 06:00 PM
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Thank you for translating this Masa!

I really love the lyrics to Green, it's beautiful.
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Old 16th November 2008, 06:19 PM
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this is the real and complete lyrics? *_* thanks!!
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Old 16th November 2008, 11:21 PM
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i've been waiting for this, thx masa!
but honestly, i don't expect it to be this fast considering the single is not release officially
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Old 17th November 2008, 12:34 AM
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ooo, thanks a lot for the translation!
I'd been looking forward to see this song's lyrics!
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Old 17th November 2008, 12:42 AM
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I love the lyrics. Greatly appreciated masa!
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Old 17th November 2008, 07:44 AM
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Thanks for your suggestions.
I change several parts again.

And keep myself --> Keeping myself
The smiling face of that man --> The smiling face of that person
I'm staring at my dear --> I'm staring at my dear person
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Old 17th November 2008, 09:04 AM
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Great lyrics!! Thanks for the translation, masa!!!
While I was reading the lyrics, Shuya gets in my mind!! I dunno, why? hmMMmpp
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Old 17th November 2008, 09:54 AM
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Very beautiful lyrics!
Its like autumn song.

Thanks for the translations!!!
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Old 17th November 2008, 01:06 PM
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aw its so pretty, thanku ^_^ btw I agree with erin1m, "Just like me, who is afraid of the warmth, keeping myself away from anything leading to hope." does sound better
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