Does Ayu wear real fur?

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by *Petit*

Fur Farming. Please do compare all you like to regular farming.

To be honest a fancy site with the lovely photos doesn't impress me. Just give me a professional photographer and people will think that fur farms are an animal friendly environment. Oh give me a break. Europe might be slightly more friendly but many developing countries are unregulated and do not really care about ethics. I suggest reading this site instead and watching the videos. I specifically suggest you check this page to showcase the mass cruelty of fur. To kill them they smash their skulls, break their necks, drown them or electrocute them (to avoid harming the fur). Also while being skinned some animals remain alive and feel that tortuous pain.

Also farming animals are not all reared to be killed. I mean most farm dogs are kept alive, some hens are reared for laying eggs, cows for their milk. I'm not saying that all are reared for their product rather than meat but some are. So there's a difference and it's actually for something which is vital for some people. I still do not agree with it but I see the fur trade as more cruel.

I think you misunderstood my point, I was trying to point out how killing only for fur is would leave a lot of waste. It was an agrument against it sort of. I don't really see where you're going with this passage as it's obisously against using synthetic fur?

Let me rephrase. Animal remains do not contribute to pollution. Synethic aka manufactured materials pollute the land though (plastic, oil, etc).

AGAIN, I AM NOT PRO-TORTURING ANIMALS. PLEASE READ CAREFULLY: AS LONG AS THE ANIMALS ARE KILLED HUMANELY I DON'T SEE WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KILLING FOR FUR OR WHATELSE, FROM AN ANIMALS POINT OF VIEW. THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY WORSE TO KILL FOR FUR THAN ANYTHING ELSE AS LONG AS ANIMAL'S RIGHS ARE OVERHELD. THis was what I was trying to say all along, nothing else.

I'm not blind and you don't need to write in caps. I know you're not. Problem is that you are not aware of the monstrosity of the fur trade. They are not killed humanely in most cases and are tortured for their life. Also sometimes they skin them alive.

Also animals caught from the wild are actually creating another problem: biodiversity loss. The strongest animals are usually caught in these traps, since they are the most active, leaving the weaker species alive. And let's not forget that many other animals are caught in these traps, especially many innocent pets which end up disabled for life or worse dead.

Imagine an animal being out in a leg-hold trap. Let me tell you that these are extremely painful and animals stay for hours. The pain is so excruciating that they sometimes gnaw their limbs off. Then there are snares which work in a very twisted manner. When the animal struggles to escape they tighten. It has been reported that 40% of animals caught are non-target animals. Even if released animals can suffer internal injuries and die. The target animals are savagely clubbed to death.

In some nations finally some people are developing something similar to a conscience and they're banning them. However I can tell you than in my country where hunting is so popular that hunters disregard law and threaten everyone with their rifles since their intelligence is limited.

Have you ever seen how they kill baby harp seals to avoid damaging their coat? They club them to death. How "heroic". I must say I admire those British who throw paint over those idiots wearing fur coats. I've seen videos of baby harp seals being killed and it was something extremely cruel seeing a path of blood on the white snow while those poor creatures tried getting away. By the way, just adding this so people know, the fur industry is well known to use dog/cat fur for trimmings around coats.

However do not think I am not aware of other cruel activities. Alive lobsters thrown into boiling water, and the illegal trade of exotic animals and so many idiocies humans come up with. I do not support these but I wanted people to be aware of the fur trade because I think it's one of the most futile, useless and cruel industry.


Also Gedatsu, seems you have completely missed the point so don't go around claiming what SunshineSlayer said was nonsense. It's not like we're approving the exploitation of underage children in the third world here. Even the fur which is extracted from animals is usually manufactured by the "50 young girls" in a dirty dingy room, since in developing countries manufacturing is cheap. So don't think buying fur is going to save any exploitation of human beings either.

Plus real fur takes more than 60 times as much energy to produce a fur coat from ranch-raised animals than it does to produce a fake fur. And they load your lovely fur coat with loads of chemicals so it doesn't decompose onto you. (I wouldn't be surprised if they later on found out that it causes cancer or something) Also since fur trade is such a barbaric activity, it's not unusual for a landfill owner to end up with loads of dead carcasses because of illegal dumping.