taskinst vs. Don't tell me by Hoobastank

[Lchang_87]

army of lovers is a swedish group...or they dont exist anymore but

[(miss)understood]

Can someone explain to me why GEO sucks so badly?

[ImpactBreaker]

I actually like his songs *hides "In The Corner"

[truehappiness]

I think GEO just made really non-Japanese-y songs for Ayu. The stuff he created for her was very... Western. More than anything she'd ever done before tbh.

[lumieregrl]

Well, Ayu's version is much better at least.

I enjoy the GEO songs too! I tried listening to the original Sweetbox versions, but they were massively improved for Ayu's album. *gags* I can't stand their singer's voice.

[hiroshi_ben]

wow they sound so much the same!!im so disappointed cuz i loved it so much!haha

[Hanabi_surreal]

ooohhh... I've hear that before, but dunno who was the author of that >.< was EXACTLY the same *dies*
anyways... I want the mp3 XD

[Northerner]

LOL, that's hilarious. I still think "taskinst" is better, though. It seems more melodic and there's no electronic beats on the Hoobastank track.

[Zeke.]

I'm glad that you posted this because I remember hearing talk that it sounded like a Hoobastank song but I was always to lazy to look up which one and to evaluate the two myself!

[critter333294]

Originally Posted by Northerner

LOL, that's hilarious. I still think "taskinst" is better, though. It seems more melodic and there's no electronic beats on the Hoobastank track.

I agree. taskisnt pwns Hoobastank's song. Still it sucks that tasuku completely took that track. Ayu probably doesn't even know who Hoobastank is.

[TakaSama]

Finally someone mentioned the Pride and Crucified similarity! I've never liked Pride, and it was precisely because I heard crucified first! I was never sure if Geo copied it or just happened to come up with the same idea.. in any case, Pride is supposed to be serious, but I never thought of it that way because Crucified just isn't!

[SheFliesHigher]

Wow, this is really something. I'm stunned.

Originally Posted by caf2795

It's an intersting theory that tasuku didn't appear on GUILTY because he plagiarized Hoobastank's song, when in fact the music for the song GUILTY sounds very similar to Linkin Park's What I've Done, like it was modeled after LP's song, which came out before GUILTY. (I don't like LP, BTW) My point being that maybe tasuku is not the culprit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sgycukafqQ

Anybody else noticed these similarities or have thoughts on it?

This is also pretty disheartening. They are quite similar. Thank you for posting this.

This thread is intense....I don't know what to think @_@

[Tom Punks]

I don't really think the Linkin Park song and GUILTY are related. A song of that type isn't really that unusual of a thing.

Also, I always figured that Pride and Crucif(y/ied?) both sampled the same piece of classical music or something. Because I remember that GEO does that kind of often in Sweetbox's music. Then again, I really don't know anything about anything.

The Hoobastank song and taskinst though... I can't say anything about that.

[Jeremy911]

Meh who cares? Hoobstank stanks, and Ayu rules!

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by Tom Punks

I don't really think the Linkin Park song and GUILTY are related. A song of that type isn't really that unusual of a thing.

Also, I always figured that Pride and Crucif(y/ied?) both sampled the same piece of classical music or something. Because I remember that GEO does that kind of often in Sweetbox's music. Then again, I really don't know anything about anything.

The Hoobastank song and taskinst though... I can't say anything about that.

Yeah, I'm a fan of both songs and I barely noticed much of that. I think it's too generic to say it was copied from the other song imo, though I do agree the resemblance is still there. This is totally diifferent from taskiinst and Pride though, in which there's absolutely no doubt that it wasn't just simple coincidence.

[sugarbasil]

Huh. I wonder how many Japanese people have noticed these things. I think we're all catching them because we're English speakers and (for a lot of us) our mainstream music is from the American music industry. So maybe while Ayu and them over in Japan may not have ever heard these songs before, we have.

Nevertheless, this is all a bit disheartening. The beginning of "What I've Done" and "GUILTY" are very, very similar; though that one I'll give might actually just be coincidence. Pride and Crucify (omg, that is the most hilarious video I've ever seen!) I can see the similarity, but it doesn't seem similar enough to be ripped off. Plus, that seems way to obscure of a song for any Japanese person to know about (but then again, maybe they thought they could get away with it BECAUSE it's obscure). And the Hoobastank thing...yeah. Blatant. However, I really do honestly like Ayu's version better. So I don't really care all that much.

But seriously, I wonder how many Japanese people have figured these things out as well. You'd think there would have been some sort of uproar by now.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by sugarbasil

Pride and Crucify (omg, that is the most hilarious video I've ever seen!) I can see the similarity, but it doesn't seem similar enough to be ripped off. Plus, that seems way to obscure of a song for any Japanese person to know about (but then again, maybe they thought they could get away with it BECAUSE it's obscure).

Actually to me it was rather obvious that the Pride chorus was copied from Crucified, even if it's an obscure song mainly for a few facts:

-If you acctually listen to SWEETBOX discography (GEO is the composer), many of their songs have sampled, copied and paste pieces of already existing songs, including classical songs and other stuff. So GEO already has a "bad reputation" in not doing original compositions.
-Prides verses are totally disconnected from the chorus. It's like a copy+paste song with two different songs glued together. The verses sound deep and sorrowful, the chorus sound a little disturbing, macabre and does't related much with the verses. It's like bad photoshopping in which you glue your face into somebody's else body and don't are to model things up to make them look slightly real. Because of that I was never able to fully enjoy that song.
-Crucified is an horrible song, reason why the only part of Pride that sucks so much is the chorus

Originally Posted by sugarbasil

But seriously, I wonder how many Japanese people have figured these things out as well. You'd think there would have been some sort of uproar by now.

I don't really know. Where I live we have a local genre of music, and the composers usually "steal" (copy without permission) several famous american songs and adapt it to this genre (They even made it with Rihanna's Umbrella for example). They use the exactly same composition, create new unrelated lyrics, change the arrangemernts to be an adaptation of that genre of music and put a local female vocalist to sing. The people here never complain about the copying and to an extent they actually prefer listening to the "adaptation", which can be a little shameful imo. Maybe in Japan, something slightly simillar happens, and they don't really care much if american music is sampled even without permission. Shameful that a huge label like avex would permit that though.

[Huaka]

Wow, the Hoobastank thing is really surprising. I don't really care for the group though so I'll say I like Ayu's better, but man, tasuku needs to make up his own ideas. (Maybe he ran out?) If I found out that tasking was copied I'll cry or something. That's my favorite interlude ever. Anyway for the Guilty vs. What I've Done thing, I like both songs so it doesn't really matter to me. I'm guessing Guilty is more of a coincidence compared to taskinst.

[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted by Huaka

If I found out that tasking was copied I'll cry or something.

Me too, that would be horrible. I like taskinst, though this just shatters it a bit. Kinda lame of tasuku. Sad, though ayu isn't at fault, it's still her name on the album cover.

[ownsarai]

Originally Posted by Namie

I thought that Ayu had super controll over her work. That she goes through every song carefully. I guess not huh..that sounded EXACTLY the same.

The thing is, Ayu doesn't know about every composition in the world, therefore she could have let it pass without even knowing about it. I still think the composer(s) are at fault for this kind of thing. I'll say it again, CREA needs to come back, and SOON~