[A] ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 09 ~ NEXT LEVEL ~ 12/04/09 Full Report - Page 5

AyUmIXx · #81 14th April 2009, 06:29 PM

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andrenekoi: that's ok

if Ayu lipsynch at AT09, pls come back here again to talk about it

haha lol

Calico, oh noooo.. Ayu sang EnergizE in her cutesy voice again?? just like AT08's Depend on you? oh myyyy..
I hate that kind of voiceeeee..woahh why Ayuu!!!
*anyway, i've moved your review to the 1st page..so ppl may read urs too..urs is very complete..you sure have a great memory..*

Andrenekoi · #82 14th April 2009, 07:03 PM

at at08 her cutesy voice was worst than normal 'cause she was sick...
maybe it will not be that bad this time^^

noidea · #83 14th April 2009, 07:17 PM

she was sick in AT08? I didnt know that! Source please!

Andrenekoi · #84 14th April 2009, 07:34 PM

oh God xD I don't wanna search this now... but she was sick at Taipei stop (the recorded one), Depend on you wasn't as high at the TV news reports either

I think she posted this on her blog

Evolution7/4 · #85 15th April 2009, 12:20 AM

I dont mind the evry now and then lipsynching either at all. I just HATE the sound on AT07, makes everything seem lipsung when it isn't. thats why '08 is so refreshing.

AyUmIXx · #86 15th April 2009, 01:39 AM

Andrenekoi, i watched her AT08 at Shanghai..and she didn't sick at all..
she actually did the cutesy voice on DoY which I don't really like.. which sounded the same like in Taiwan stop~
I prefer her to sing normally~

the normal cutesy way, not to make it tooo cutesy~
and it's really not good to hear her strain her voice again in AT09... hmm.. where EnergizE on CD was not that sung toooooo cutesy~~
she sounded great in HONEY at AT05..why just she didn't like that...

Calicoo, tell us more..whether she sounded too cutesy like in AT08's DoY or not..

Andrenekoi · #87 15th April 2009, 01:51 AM

I'm pretty sure (at least talking about dvds) that she never used a "cutesy voice" like the DoY one before... o.o It eas a very strange voice

Evolution7/4 · #88 15th April 2009, 01:54 AM

Yes she has. The only difference is that shes doing a cutesy voice, with her new deeper voice. Like her voice has change, so when she does a highpitched voice, it still is lower than her previous high pitch cutsy voices.

Andrenekoi · #89 15th April 2009, 02:12 AM

No, is not only this... this time her cutesy voice was strange... mainly in the begining of the song, the first 3 or 4 verses... them it got better

SunshineSlayer · #90 15th April 2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Luther10

Oh come on, you gotta be kidding me. Just a few tickets out of 17000 from 1 show, and you're calling this her least demand tour ever? Your comments are often so negative. I still remember all those lip-syching comments you made...

It IS her least in demand tour ever. Anyone that has bought her tickets on resale before knows that. I've said it a few times already, but there are literally hundred of available tickets for Ayu's shows on the resale market and the number keeps rising - in the past, there would be about a dozen total for each show, last year maybe 2 dozen for each show at the most. They are also all for extremely cheap compared to the past. Before if you wanted A-Block tickets (ie the front) the minimum you would pay is $400 (and that is the bare minimum too, they would often go for over $1,000.) Now on this tour there are A-Blocks not selling until the day of the show and for comparatively very cheap. The resale market is a direct reflection of how in demand someones concert tickets are or not.

And its not only the resale markets either. I hadn't checked my mail in a few days but saw just now that I got a mail from e-plus (basically ticketmaster) on 4/9 saying they had more tickets to sell for the shows on 4/11 and 4/12! How often does that happen for an Ayu show? Basically never.

So, even if you think it's negative, it doesn't stop it from being the truth. Same thing with the lip synching. I took a lot of unnecessary flack for that and then low and behold at PCDL she is caught red handed and then suddenly at least some people started to admit 'ok, she does lip synch sometimes'. And yes, 3 songs of AT08 were lip synched - I felt that from the moment I saw the live show and that never changed - I'm still surprised people actually even doubt it, especially for Marionette. As for this tour, I've seen a few remarks from people thinking she may have lip synched again, but no one yet has mentioned any specific songs.

None of this even means that the show is bad either, I'm just simply stating the fact that yes, this tour is less demanded than before - take it however you want to take it.

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

At06: the only thing I know is that one day the ball wasn't moving and she had to sing alterna, is this love and (miss)understood there...

I was there that day. Is This Love and Miss Understood were definitely live, but those songs were always live on that tour. Alterna I can't be sure about, but in retrospect, I'd be very surprised if it were live. I remember thinking at the time how it could be live when it didn't really sound like it and she had a bar around her chest half the time, but since I couldn't tell for sure at that time I gave the benefit of the doubt - mainly because until that time I had never noticed or suspected lip synching from her, but then from that time on I started to suspect it more.

edit: sorry, I didn't see this was being moved to another thread!

Evolution7/4 · #91 15th April 2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

No, is not only this... this time her cutesy voice was strange... mainly in the begining of the song, the first 3 or 4 verses... them it got better

Maybe because she was going off pitch because of her half deafness. i'm not sure...

I wonder if the negative reviews have been affecting ticket sales.

AyUmIXx · #92 15th April 2009, 02:25 AM

Andrenekoi, yea righte.. her cutesy voice is sooooooo weird.. not sounded like on HONEY..i mean in CD version of DoY, her voice is not sounded soo cutesy, it's normal and nice to hear..but when she sang live.. O_O i was so shocked!
if it's sounded like HONEY at AT05..that's much better

gotta ask Chibishun for more details of her voice in this AT09 for sure...

SunshineSlayer, hmmmm if this AT09 is least demanded tour..why Ayu would want to extend the tour until oct?
doesn't that mean this tour is highly demanded? many ppl want to see her concert or something?
or wait.. maybe it has something to do with global crisis? where ppl tend to get cheaper tickets to watch the show?
where ppl actually want to watch her shows so badly.. but they don't have extra money for that. (i mean watching concerts isn't the first priority in life, right? they can use the money for other things first)....so they wait until some tickets getting at the lower price... i heard that Japan got pretty big impact of the global crisis~
hmm that's what i could think of though

emi♡ · #93 15th April 2009, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Calico

Ayu took off her coat of
suffocating sheep-herding doom to reveal a dumb pink dress that hugged
her and poofed out around her feet.

you are AWESOME.

SunshineSlayer · #94 15th April 2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

oh God xD I don't wanna search this now... but she was sick at Taipei stop (the recorded one), Depend on you wasn't as high at the TV news reports either

I think she posted this on her blog

Actually it wasn't because she was sick. I was at one of the Tokyo shows and she used the same kind of cutesy voice. It seemed obvious that it was intentional and not how her voice would sound had she sung it naturally. I remember being disappointed because I was looking forward to hearing that song live for the first time and then throughout the performance thinking 'what the heck is she doing with her voice?' It kinda ruined the song imo.

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

SunshineSlayer, hmmmm if this AT09 is least demanded tour..why Ayu would want to extend the tour until oct?
doesn't that mean this tour is highly demanded? many ppl want to see her concert or something?
or wait.. maybe it has something to do with global crisis? where ppl tend to get cheaper tickets to watch the show?
where ppl actually want to watch her shows so badly.. but they don't have extra money for that. (i mean watching concerts isn't the first priority in life, right? they can use the money for other things first)....so they wait until some tickets getting at the lower price... i heard that Japan got pretty big impact of the global crisis~
hmm that's what i could think of though

I think the economy is having somewhat of an effect - I think a lot of people in the past saw her multiple times on a tour and this time are not doing that. However it seems that other artists on tour right now are still having their tickets pretty sought after. It's weird. I'm not sure what the point of avex adding extra dates was - it definitely wasn't something that was necessary. I can only guess that the initial tickets did sell out for the earlier dates but then more people than usual simply decided not to go and put their tickets up for resale. This brings up the "is it because of Next Level?" question. I at least read from Teth on JPM that he had heard or several people giving up their tickets because they didn't like the album. Another explanation is that the reseller shops (and the record companies themselves sometimes) thought the tickets would be in more demand than they were, bought a bunch of tickets themselves for sale on the resale market only to learn that the tickets weren't selling this time around. That doesn't explain however why eplus (official ticket vendor, not reseller) said they had more tickets for 4/11 and 4/12 just days before the show though.

AyUmIXx · #95 15th April 2009, 12:37 PM

SunshineSlayer, hmmm.. i still don't think that this AT09 is considered as the least demanded tour just because people who have bought the tickets at the normal price, re-sell it again to the resellers just because they don't want to watch the show anymore... i think maybe people resell the tickets to the resellers, because people need money for other things (you know because of the global crisis and all), where the tickets have been started to be sold long before the concert starts.. so people may think twice of watching it or not...

and i don't think avex would just decide to have the longest tour for Ayu this year if the tour is not demanded... because from what i think, more additional tours, mean more demand of the tour..
haha though we can't make sure if all the concerts will be full house or not..hmmm..
i think we should just enjoy what Ayu offers to us for her concert

ah anyway, according to Chibishun, on the 2nd day of the tour, it was a full house

just my two cents hahaha <3

jbrat2219 · #96 15th April 2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

i think we should just enjoy what Ayu offers to us for her concert

As if anyone enjoys what Ayu has to offer anymore...

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

ah anyway, according to Chibishun, on the 2nd day of the tour, it was a full house

just my two cents hahaha <3

That's great! Even if it a venue wasn't sold out, I'm sure it would still be very full.

Andrenekoi · #97 15th April 2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219

As if anyone enjoys what Ayu has to offer anymore...

I do enjoy =)

jbrat2219 · #98 15th April 2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

I do enjoy =)

So do I

emi♡ · #99 15th April 2009, 08:07 PM

Extending the tour until October gives them more time to suck people dry?

no i dont know...but...

damn that's a long time...I really don't think she should do that...there'd be even less demand for the tickets lol but whatever.

Ayu sometimes...I don't think she lives on the same plane of reality that some others do...she's like oh lets do this and this and this...and just regardless if people like it or not...and well, sometimes, they don't.

Everyone's going to enjoy Ayu's concert because we all love Ayu...doesn't mean it's going to be great though.

SunshineSlayer · #**100** 15th April 2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

SunshineSlayer, hmmm.. i still don't think that this AT09 is considered as the least demanded tour just because people who have bought the tickets at the normal price, re-sell it again to the resellers just because they don't want to watch the show anymore... i think maybe people resell the tickets to the resellers, because people need money for other things (you know because of the global crisis and all), where the tickets have been started to be sold long before the concert starts.. so people may think twice of watching it or not...

It is a direct reflection of how in demand something is though. Not sure how it can be seen any other way.

Just the fact that people decided that they would rather not see the concert shows a fundamental lack of interest/demand. And then the fact that the resale shops are having a hard time selling the tickets back to the public demonstrates that even more so.