Hamasaki Ayumi and Avex face investigation by Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department

[LacusClyne]

^i think she forgotten the impact that she might cause due to her popularity, or ayu won't do such a reckless thing

[ayumisrael]

I don't know if it's reckless.
Since from what she said (if it's what she said) she thought that the permission was taken care of and also I don't think she thought she has the "power" to bring up 8000 people there.
Even if she is a celebrity and has responsibilities, she is not a fortune teller.

And even if she had a permission, wouldn't it be just the same? The roads there would be blocked and stuff so the only difference would be is that she has a permission to do it (and block the roads).

[ayu_fantasy]

Ok, so her presence cause the commotion, not her.

And what was the effect? Nothing too serious I presume.

No one got injured, no one died, so why are they following this up so strictly.

Simple, they want to pull her down.

Poor Ayu, cannot even walk on the streets like a normal Japanese without being investigated by the police.

[vampireknightzero]

omg..this sounded serious

[njanjayrp]

I think it's dumb people are making such a fuss about this and considering the drunk&naked SMAP guy was forgiven for making several people's eyes bleed this will prolly cool down even faster.

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

I think it's dumb people are making such a fuss about this and considering the drunk&naked SMAP guy was forgiven for making several people's eyes bleed this will prolly cool down even faster.

he wasn't forgiven.

From what i had read in the japan news, some felt disgusted by his behaviour, and was shock to know that this happen

[noidea]

Originally Posted by aurinko.

it would be kinda cool if she had hung from 109 in this alterna ball though.

would really be cool, i imagine driving in a bus and theres suddenly ayu hanging next to the window xD

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by LacusClyne

he wasn't forgiven.

From what i had read in the japan news, some felt disgusted by his behaviour, and was shock to know that this happen

An article said that 92% of the fans have forgiven him xD though I guess Japanese public didn't. Anyways this is very different and Ayu herself did nothing wrong, AVEX and her management did.

[noidea]

^ and ayu probably was forgiven for this thing by 99,9999999% of her fans xD

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

And even if she had a permission, wouldn't it be just the same? The roads there would be blocked and stuff so the only difference would be is that she has a permission to do it (and block the roads).

It wouldn't. It's completely different. When roads are blocked after being planned, signs can be placed and the routes are redone during a low traffic period (late night) in order to avoid traffic jams (that's one of the zillion reasons why traffic engineering exists lol). It's completely different from having the streets shut all of a sudden. Also, they could also have denied the permission if they considered the event might cause too much trouble even if planned beforehand. People can't "steal" the city public space all to themselves, even if for a moment, without that city consenting so. In my country, you'd need the city's representative -the mayor- permission in order to do something like that, because it would sorta mean that that city's population is in agreement with the event and any consequences it might bring.

On a side note:

I know it's not Japan, but in my country, which is democratic, you need the mayor's permission in order to make any great changes in houses and buildings, because they have to file a report about the public safety of what's going to be constructed and then allow or refute it. People mistake democracy with freedom. They aren't synonyms. A 100% free "Heartplace lyrics-like" person would be free to make crimes or whatever they'd like to do, which would hurt democracy.

Originally Posted by ArchangelLegend

This is not about equal rights. This is about her and the effects of what can happen when a popular celebrity starts bringing a lot of attention to herself on the public streets. Any celebrity should have the responsibility to notify what they intend to do so others can prepare especially if there's going to be road blocks. That way the police, medical personal, or firemen can plan accordingly in case of an emergency. This is a smart thing, Ayu will look very bad if someone didn't get to the hospital on time because she wanted to promote her book.

People may have the same rights, but everyone has different responsibilties. Ayu should know better. Most people don't have that responsibilty so they can freely walk whereever they want. Ayu cannot or should not, so I strongly disagree with what she said. I encourage everyone else to disagree with her statement because it's healthy, that shows we are concern for her public image, but more importantly, the safety of others.

I pretty much agree with everything said here. couldn't have put it in a better way

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by ArchangelLegend

This is not about equal rights. This is about her and the effects of what can happen when a popular celebrity starts bringing a lot of attention to herself on the public streets. Any celebrity should have the responsibility to notify what they intend to do so others can prepare especially if there's going to be road blocks. That way the police, medical personal, or firemen can plan accordingly in case of an emergency. This is a smart thing, Ayu will look very bad if someone didn't get to the hospital on time because she wanted to promote her book.

People may have the same rights, but everyone has different responsibilties. Ayu should know better. Most people don't have that responsibilty so they can freely walk whereever they want. Ayu cannot or should not, so I strongly disagree with what she said. I encourage everyone else to disagree with her statement because it's healthy, that shows we are concern for her public image, but more importantly, the safety of others.

I agree with half of the things you and Impackbreaker said.
First since what she said is translated from 3 languages it could be lost in translation.
Secondly if this is what she said she was sure that the permission was given.
It's not in her own responsibility to ask for it. Accroding to what she said she most likely told that there was a given permission and was instructed to go to that event normally. That's why the blame shouldn't go to her. Her job was to simply go there a promote it, asking for permission is a staff of her company job and to make sure it's given.
That's why I don't jump to disagree with what she said.

I agree with the safety of the people is the most important thing in the whole issue. Still, we can't blame it on her. She did her job going to promote the book and as she said in the statement she was noticed that there was a permission and that she could go normally (things were taken care of) and to go there normally. If there wasn't a permission it was the company's responsibility to cancel the whole event because the permission wasn't given.
It's not ok at all to threat safety of others, but it's not her fault and I don't think the statement is that unresponsible sounding. She did say she was told things were taken care of in that matter, and she herself shouldn't ask for the permission and be responsible for those issues, it's not her job.
You could say she was kind of "decieved" while she wasn't literally.

I don't know why but this whole thing kinda' made me laugh :S

[njanjayrp]

People should keep in mind that she isn't the one who was responsible for the event's organization, it's not Ayu who has made a mistake. As Tal said, her job was simply to appear on that stage.

[MTRLevolution]

the one day i'm not in shibuya is the day she shows up. i am an idiot.

[Namie]

Originally Posted by ArchangelLegend

This is not about equal rights. This is about her and the effects of what can happen when a popular celebrity starts bringing a lot of attention to herself on the public streets. Any celebrity should have the responsibility to notify what they intend to do so others can prepare especially if there's going to be road blocks. That way the police, medical personal, or firemen can plan accordingly in case of an emergency. This is a smart thing, Ayu will look very bad if someone didn't get to the hospital on time because she wanted to promote her book.

People may have the same rights, but everyone has different responsibilties. Ayu should know better. Most people don't have that responsibilty so they can freely walk whereever they want. Ayu cannot or should not, so I strongly disagree with what she said. I encourage everyone else to disagree with her statement because it's healthy, that shows we are concern for her public image, but more importantly, the safety of others.

Amen to that

[lumieregrl]

Originally Posted by luna7996

Its sad that Ayu cant walk around like she want were she want but we also need to put ourselves on the polices shoes. I love her with all my heart but look at it this way. When she appears in event as big as the book realease was and she doesnt anoucces herself the police is not ready for the flood of fans that cover the streets. As a result fans could get hurt in an attemp to see Ayu. The police not being anouced of the event is not ready and doesnt have any security messures for the people there. For example a street overly filled by fans pushing one another to get a glimps of Ayu could end up in fans falling and getting hurt,cars passing could hurt someone (if this was anocced the police would have block the streets preventing cars to pass), without the police being ready for it a feud could come up out of nowhere among fans and so on.

On another point of view the police also needs to think: whats done its done. They cant punish Ayu for something that already happend. They should just leave her alone with a simple warning and tell her that she needs to anouce events as big as book or cds promotional events to the police.

I feel sorry for Ayu. Being famous sound like a lot of trouble sometimes.

Ditto, you're right!

[My Rainbow]

police must be bored, now they have something to do and play with...

[Raleigh]

Who are they kidding? It's obvious that it's a ploy to get a lot of money off from avex. It's funny how they had to think over it for almost a month to take action. My bet is that now they are blowing it out of proportion to milk avex.

On the other hand her management team seems to be more than incompetent. They should have planned ahead and given a heads up to the authorities in order to avoid all this stupid drama. Additionally this is something they should have taken care of, rather than Ayu. Otherwise why should she have a management team? So they look pretty in the offshot clips? It's not like Ayu can deal with these arrangements when her schedule is that busy.

I'm afraid Ayu's staff or her so called "friends" who are supposed to help her in her work will lead her to her downfall. They're too busy to shove themselves in the spotlight and in return they keep doing these dumb mistakes. Hope this serves as a wake up call. Something tells me she needs to change half of her staff.

[sanzo2011]

another scandal for her ! i don't know she's right or not ! but it'll definitely affect her popularity that makes me sad ~~!

[Lady_Eowyn]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

What!? When she goes to airports, I'm sure they most likely make a report from it beforehand, so that proper security can be held. No wonder the press knows when ayu is going to ariive on airports a few days earlier. You can't really compare both situations. If ayu wants to walk freely the way she wants, she should give up being a celebrity. I'd expect her to be mature enough to know that stardom has its price, so hopefully that wasn't really her reply.

If she wants to be a normal regular human being, she should quit the massive concerts, all magazine appearances, all her divaish obsession of being the latest fashion trend, etc. Her reply only shows two things to me: she's either extremely naive and immature, or on the other hand not a very sincere/honest person. I personally don't understand how someone wants to have a normal life and still lives in diva paradise. Makes no sense I personally hope "her reply" was made up by the tabloid, otherwise, even kuu can lie better I know I'm souding crude, but even if I'm an ayu fan, I find her excuse a little pathetic.

amen


I think basically everyone is responsible for what happened, her staff, management, vivi and ayu included. It's not like ayu is a six year old girl and has no idea what is going on. I mean, we're talking about ayu, the gal who has a really tight control of her career, so saying she is not responsible is ridiculous. Like i said before, normal rules cannot apply to ayu because she is a celebrity. she should be able to walk normally like an average person, that's true, but unfortunately, when this happens, it's very likely there are going to be riots because people goes nuts:

"look who is there!!! is ayu!!!!! waaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!"

Her actions definitely can cause huge consequences, for right or wrong.Her book promotion was not intended to make trouble and i understand that, but i don't think it's fair either for the people who gets late because of the masses; here the lesson to learn is to be more careful next time. i think that's what ayu must explain and everthing is gonna be ok

Originally Posted by Furashubakku

YEA! She can write great songs such as:
CELL
CagE
SHOWER or NOT

LOL!!!!!

anyway, guys, don't get mad because ayu is not going to jail... the mere idea looks ridiculous to me everything is going to be fine, in my opinion