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View Poll Results: Is namie's concerts BORING?
NO! Hers are one of the best in Japan! 34 23.29%
No. But they're not the most entertaining. 56 38.36%
Yes. It's a bit boring... can be better. 32 21.92%
YES! I can't stand it! Nothing entertaining at all!! 14 9.59%
Not sure... 10 6.85%
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So the only way someone have to show talent is by dancing? Everyone with money can use pretty, fancy, dramatic stage effects (even Namie is using them now she is gaining money again), but using them without vanishing on the huge amount of information needs LOTS of talent (even if IMO Koda vanishes a lot on her own concerts)
Dancing takes talent... I didn't say it was the only way to show talent.

That is irrelevant though since the BF tour is just like any other Namie tour, only with a touch of gloss. Namie uses that stuff to enhance her own performance, not detract from it.

And what do you mean on that last sentence?
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I'm not sure ! but i never can watch her full concert .
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the only reason why its so boring is namie keep dancing all the time~
i know this is her talent but whenever i watched that, somehow i get bored...
maybe it will be nicer if i watch it live...


edit: and also namie talk less!!! she's such a shy girl (she said it in cawaii magazine)
I agree with you. You summed up my view perfectly
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after watching BF tour, I actually think that she CAN be great, but is not great for every tour
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Dancing takes talent... I didn't say it was the only way to show talent.

That is irrelevant though since the BF tour is just like any other Namie tour, only with a touch of gloss. Namie uses that stuff to enhance her own performance, not detract from it.

And what do you mean on that last sentence?
That when I'm watching Koda's concerts, sometimes there is so much happening at the same time that I don't pay attention on her... And that it takes lots of talent (you really need to know how to act on a stage) to this not happening on a concert full of effects... IMO most pop stars fail when need to face this, even some very famous for their concerts...

I liked BFT, but even if she is more energetic (it's her best concert IMO), still find her very cold for a performing pop star for the most of it... Maybe the way she performs isn't my cup of tea
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I found her BF tour boring. Nothing really going on on stage, just some dancing. She looked exausted. (I noticed she's exhausted in all her tours lol) I didn't really like the outfits. Her english was alot better though than on the original tracks, but her voice is kind of "meh" live.

My eyes weren't that entertained. Just kind of sitting there watching namie dance and sing. I kind of want there to be more eye candy. and I want her to sing in a higher pitch live.
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^ I don't really think she can sing on a higher pitch live... Namie's voice isn't very high
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Imagine, if Namie had all kinds of effects and huge set pieces and stuff, combined with her crazy dancing for hours, her concerts would be untouchable.
THIS!

Girl has got stamina, plus her singing live in my own humble opinion sounds a whole lot better compared to some as of late. Mayhaps a whole lot of "FLASH AND BANG" would have left a more memorable impression on people.
Bigger props aside from the Big shoe in "New Look."
The huge plastic stars?
They should have used the footage/performances from her Japanese concerts in the DVD instead.
Namie seems a bit stiff in some of her movements too, so that even her dancing can get a bit repetitive and boring at times...After watching the entire concert though I still loved it...She's an excellent performer, her DVD reached number one and is selling like hotcakes for a reason people...
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That when I'm watching Koda's concerts, sometimes there is so much happening at the same time that I don't pay attention on her... And that it takes lots of talent (you really need to know how to act on a stage) to this not happening on a concert full of effects... IMO most pop stars fail when need to face this, even some very famous for their concerts...

I liked BFT, but even if she is more energetic (it's her best concert IMO), still find her very cold for a performing pop star for the most of it... Maybe the way she performs isn't my cup of tea
I understand where you're coming from when you say she's cold, because I believed this too.

But it's really just, her way of performing and projecting herself. I know it's very like "get away from me I want to be alone and I'm gonna be a robot"

But I just think that she isn't one to really "act" like say Ayu and Kuu do, when they're all cute, or when they're all trying to be fierce.

Namie is just herself and the way she performs. And it's always like that.

For instance, I mean, even her "cute" songs, like NEW LOOK, wasn't really "cute" in the way ayu and koda would have done it, but it's "cute" for her, and the cuteness factor comes out in the choreography...not really, her personal actions or the way she sings. She's just herself.

Even the little wink at the end didn't seem really like acting to me, at least not as much as it would for other pop stars.

Does that make any sense? lol


And it's not really like her way of performing is better, or sucks, it's more just personal preference imo.

Just like some people will always love the huge sets and theatrics, and some people will always love just the band, the singer, and a microphone.
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I understand where you're coming from when you say she's cold, because I believed this too.

But it's really just, her way of performing and projecting herself. I know it's very like "get away from me I want to be alone and I'm gonna be a robot"

But I just think that she isn't one to really "act" like say Ayu and Kuu do, when they're all cute, or when they're all trying to be fierce.

Namie is just herself and the way she performs. And it's always like that.

For instance, I mean, even her "cute" songs, like NEW LOOK, wasn't really "cute" in the way ayu and koda would have done it, but it's "cute" for her, and the cuteness factor comes out in the choreography...not really, her personal actions or the way she sings. She's just herself.

Even the little wink at the end didn't seem really like acting to me, at least not as much as it would for other pop stars.

Does that make any sense? lol


And it's not really like her way of performing is better, or sucks, it's more just personal preference imo.

Just like some people will always love the huge sets and theatrics, and some people will always love just the band, the singer, and a microphone.
Yeap, I didn't say she sucks... I just think that her cold look kills the charisma she can have when she wants to, and the same with her stage presence... But I know this is just a matter of opinion...

The thing I like the most about Ayu is not all the acting (but I love the acting cuz she is an AMAZING stage actress for a pop singer), but the charisma she has on stage... I like to watch the most "glossed" performances cuz I love seeing she putting an amazing stage musical-like performance, but I love to see her on t-shirt and jeans just interacting with the audience and singing her heart off too... She just seens passionate to me

Namie does seen passionate too, but not all the time, and that's what I miss the most about her... I LOVED BFT encore for this reason. I don't think she sux or anything like that, even cuz jpop scene as a whole lacks passion to me (like... is there anything more cold and plastic than Perfume? And people on Japan still dies to see them live...)
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Yeah, honestly, like I would LOVE for her to be all personal and charismatic in her tours and stuff...but I think...that somehow she's just not really like that.

Like it even surprised me at the end when like, she didn't even talk or anything, and she just was like "bye" and the concert was over lol

And I don't know, right now I assume she's just a private person, but I don't really know a lot about her, or her history as to why she's not all like...talkative? or personable or whatever.

I personally prefer interactive namie, and not robot namie, but I could see a lot of people complaining if she started being all talky and smiley and stuff...

People were complaining she was smiling too much in this tour

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^ I heard that she was more...active? before her mother's death? But I wouldn't know since I haven't seen her earlier concerts

But in a magazine, she says that she work so hard and perform so hard for her family~ So I think if she's happy, why are we complaining so much?

The "cold" thing works with some people, but if it's enough to get to sell like 154,000 copies of her DVD the first day, then it probably work with a lot of people

Some concerts I watch for the dramatic effects like Ayu's acting, but some concerts I watch for the amazing talent and effort like what Namie had put into BF

I was kinda sad that she didn't communicate more, but for her past 2 tours in Taiwan, she even sang some of her songs like CAN YOU CELEBRATE? and NEVER END in Chinese...and even if she did communicate, most people wouldn't understand anyways XD At least Ayu can speak some English...
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^ I heard that she was more...active? before her mother's death? But I wouldn't know since I haven't seen her earlier concerts

But in a magazine, she says that she work so hard and perform so hard for her family~ So I think if she's happy, why are we complaining so much?

The "cold" thing works with some people, but if it's enough to get to sell like 154,000 copies of her DVD the first day, then it probably work with a lot of people

Some concerts I watch for the dramatic effects like Ayu's acting, but some concerts I watch for the amazing talent and effort like what Namie had put into BF

I was kinda sad that she didn't communicate more, but for her past 2 tours in Taiwan, she even sang some of her songs like CAN YOU CELEBRATE? and NEVER END in Chinese...and even if she did communicate, most people wouldn't understand anyways XD At least Ayu can speak some English...

What magazine was that? ^ In any case, it's true.

Namie's favorite things to do are tours. Fact. It's time to get over the fact that she doesn't do a lot of MCing, or either learn why she doesn't. She says she doesn't want to blabber on about nothing. If she has nothing to say, then that's fine. She doesn't do MC just for the sake of it. She has her own way of going about things. She's charismatic in her own way and interacts with her fans in her own way and people don't mind it at all. Some people who went to BF tour said she talked way more at some of their concerts; like an earthquake happened just before the concert starts and during the MC she joked with the audience by saying, "I will protect you, don't worry. If there's another earthquake coming, don't panic!"

I don't get why so many people complain about the way she performs. She's an introvert so she's not going to jump around the stage like Ayu or Kumi do. If she feels comfortable enough she'll do it. These are different people with different personalities. Since when was there a requirement for Namie to be a ~SUPER GENKI~ pop star all the time? Don't make judgments about her just because she's not like someone else. She's not cold at all. You can feel her sincerity and how much she enjoys performing, through her own type of interactions with her fans, such as the sweet smiles. I don't think it takes a lot of intuition on anyone's part to see that because I never ever got that impression when I first watched her concerts. If there's a serious song like Violet Sauce she'll have a serious face on to suit the mood. If it's Girl Talk or Funky Town, she'll smile all cutely.

Seems like some of you will never be pleased no matter how many songs Namie adds to her setlist and the fact that she sings and dances LIVE for every one of them. Who does that in 2009 where lipsynching is pretty much common place and people like Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears re-record the audio of their DVDs? At least she's authentic enough of a performer to not cover up her own shortcomings. What you see is what you get.
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wow, big discussion here xD
I'm pretty much on the same side all the others are, Namie does appear cold at times, but I read several times that she has much stagefright now and if that's true she's actually not nearly as cold as others with the same problem are and I do think she has stage presence, I never like "forget she's on stage", which often happens with other artists, she should maybe have a less loud backingtrack, but aside that BF tour kept me entertained all the way through(- white light)
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They're not boring at all! She entertains us with what she does best, and she's one of those rare artists that sound even better live. So, I would easily consider her's among the best in Japan. There's a reason even the general public who are not necessarily fans of her's consider her a legend!
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^ exactly. (and your avatar is super cute)

namie's concerts are just.. namie doing what she does best and that's being a performer and a singer. and honestly, best fiction tour is not much different from her other tours, it just looks more fancy thanks to stage set up and the long ass setlist.
but it's still just.. her dancing and singing and being a beast on stage lol

but i can see why people find her concerts "boring" though.
some people just want to see a huge ship on stage or see someone perform in a 30ft tall dress, and that's fine.
i used to be like that too myself..
and honsetly, i wouldn't be surprised if her next tour is going to be a hall tour again.


and namie is everything but bored when she's on stage.
she even said in an interview that the only reason why she makes music is so she can perform her songs on stage.

there are various reasons why she looks the way she does on stage, but those already have been explained in this thread
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No. But they're not the most entertaining.

Why? I skipped some of the performances even of the songs that I love. Her dancing isn't always that great and it simply doesn't catch my attention sometimes. I have to admit that this time she actually laughed and smiled during Say the word and Baby Don't Cry and did put some emotion into those, but she totally slaughtered Wishing on the Same Star and I couldn't listen to her chopping the song anymore after the first chorus so I skipped it. BFT is defo her best one I've seen so far, but like Kumi she lacks stage presence imo, even though Ayu has amazing props not for one second do I take my eyes of her. Kumi's prob is she has too many things going on and the performances are all over the place while Namie's seem almost modest at times and there is nothing really happening on the stage besides the dancing. When it comes to the whole dancing thing and having interesting performances, after Ayu I'd say BoA does it the best.
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What magazine was that? ^ In any case, it's true.

Namie's favorite things to do are tours. Fact. It's time to get over the fact that she doesn't do a lot of MCing, or either learn why she doesn't. She says she doesn't want to blabber on about nothing. If she has nothing to say, then that's fine. She doesn't do MC just for the sake of it. She has her own way of going about things. She's charismatic in her own way and interacts with her fans in her own way and people don't mind it at all. Some people who went to BF tour said she talked way more at some of their concerts; like an earthquake happened just before the concert starts and during the MC she joked with the audience by saying, "I will protect you, don't worry. If there's another earthquake coming, don't panic!"

I don't get why so many people complain about the way she performs. She's an introvert so she's not going to jump around the stage like Ayu or Kumi do. If she feels comfortable enough she'll do it. These are different people with different personalities. Since when was there a requirement for Namie to be a ~SUPER GENKI~ pop star all the time? Don't make judgments about her just because she's not like someone else. She's not cold at all. You can feel her sincerity and how much she enjoys performing, through her own type of interactions with her fans, such as the sweet smiles. I don't think it takes a lot of intuition on anyone's part to see that because I never ever got that impression when I first watched her concerts. If there's a serious song like Violet Sauce she'll have a serious face on to suit the mood. If it's Girl Talk or Funky Town, she'll smile all cutely.

Seems like some of you will never be pleased no matter how many songs Namie adds to her setlist and the fact that she sings and dances LIVE for every one of them. Who does that in 2009 where lipsynching is pretty much common place and people like Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears re-record the audio of their DVDs? At least she's authentic enough of a performer to not cover up her own shortcomings. What you see is what you get.
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but like Kumi she lacks stage presence imo, even though Ayu has amazing props not for one second do I take my eyes of her.
I think she has great stage presence. For you Ayu has the best, but I don't think theatricality denotes talent.

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she even said in an interview that the only reason why she makes music is so she can perform her songs on stage.
Yeah she said if she can't have concerts anymore she'll quit!

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