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Old 1st October 2010, 01:10 AM
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^ I meant I followed Ayu xD
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I'm sorry, I can't forgive that. That "girl" said things that she wouldn't have said. She should have though about it before posting anything. On the other hand, I remember that it was that "girl" who uploaded a photo to a facebook page, where everybody posted a photo with the "rock'n'roll circus" cover imitation, but what she did was just to show tits.
I'm sorry because I know it has nothing to do with all that but that's the kind of thing that makes me know how a person is. Of course that's only egocentrism.
so true

@Nippon I figured that's who you meant XD I think I followed her for like 1 day, and got tired of only seeing 5976376 tweets from her all the time lol
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Well. I think...although I'm quite forgiving anyway I think if ayu can we should try
I only hope ayu didn't see all of those tweets. Its...um kinda embarassing for fans
But ayu is very nice regarding the situation which is good. She's a good role model.

What happened was stupid to the point where I do feel like making a post today. But it happened. **** happens, unfortunately.

Omg this is so embarassing on behalf of her fans. As long as ayu doesn't think were all like this
Well there's my little opinion

I like ayu tweeting. She makes some of the sweetest tweets at times <3
Lol I wish she would tweet now.
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People don't seem to understand Nemes' sense of humour.

And even if Ayu doesn't, she at least, understands fans.

And yes, Nemes is a fan. But she doesn't need me to defend her, so.
The thing is, it's not funny. It's rude and it shows she has no social grace and no common sense to know when to joke and when not to. And if people think it's funny to harass and insult someone just to get attention, they're just as immature as she is. I'm sure you or anyone else wouldn't appreciate being called a racist repeatedly by someone you don't know. Yeah, Ayu's a celebrity so it's Neme knows who she is but that behavior is still uncalled for. She did it because she knew she would piss someone off, if not Ayu then her fans. That's just stupid and you know it babe.
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Old 1st October 2010, 01:49 AM
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I tweeted Ayu, thanking her for the help on the mu-mo shop thing.

I think I'll go get the Sunrise mug now! lol jk
Anything but that
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People don't seem to understand Nemes' sense of humour.

And even if Ayu doesn't, she at least, understands fans.

And yes, Nemes is a fan. But she doesn't need me to defend her, so.
this. kinda.

don't get me wrong, Neme did go overboard with the racism thing.
BUT! she did say what most people thought. don't get me wrong, i like a lot of the Spanish fans, hell, Laura is awesome as hell. but honestly you all? who can say that at least once didn't think 'oh ayu only tweets back to jorge, gigi and laura' ? or 'wow, they're spamming ayu's twitter again' or stuff like that?
honestly, everyone thought that at least once.

personally, i was sooo happy for you jorge when Ayu gave you so much attention, all the mentioning, the MC thing and all. you're like the luckiest fan alive, EVER! and not just the ayu thing, i mean, i doubt that any fan in the world was ever been that noticed by his/her idol, EVER!!!!
but when the thing with Ayu not coming to spain a few months ago happened, i wanted to punch and beat the crap out of you man. you whined so damn much, you were lit. hysterical about it! i saw it as disrespect and thought you were ungrateful. i could be wrong here, but i think you and miki spammed the hell out of twitter that time, and whined waaay too much, (i could be wrong, and all but, it was a while ago so i don't remember it all, n i apologize if i didn't mention someone or mentioned the wrong person) if it were not you guys, i'd think it was just some idiot fans trying to get pitiful attention from Ayu. i mean c'mon, you got so much attention from her, Ayu even wore your country's jersey/T-shirt on her tour!!! that's like... WOW! the greatest thing anyone could do to show how much she/he cares for that country and how much respect she has for Spain. and it's all thanks to YOU!!! you should all be honored as hell.

look at Brazil, we all know that brazil has more ayu fans than any other country outside Asia, and they got nothing like that from her.

once again don't take this too personal, or rude, i'm just saying. you guys are the luckiest persons alive, be grateful ne?

also, i think some people should take a good look at themselves, everyone was all in attack mode and hateful towards Nemesis, but as soon as Ayu forgave her, most people went to peace mode and said it's all water under the bridge now.... shallow much? i think it's morbid and makes you not only shallow, but kinda brainless too. can't you just think with your own heads and actually have an opinion of your own? you guys aren't stans, nor idiots, but why isn't anyone standing their ground for once?!!!
i'm a fan of ayu, and i love and really respect her as hell, but i have my own mind, i will never jump around her & consider her like a god or something. she's a huge influence in my life, but i can think with my own head, thank you.

now i'm sure i'll at least get a notice/red card or something for this post, and i can see that it might even get deleted, and people will probably attack me for this but i don't care. i really am not trying to be rude, nor am i jealous or attacking anyone, but i just had to say all of it. and i know for a fact that there's a lot of people thinking the same things, just not saying it here, and talk about it behind everyone.
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Old 1st October 2010, 01:50 AM
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The thing is, it's not funny. It's rude and it shows she has no social grace and no common sense to know when to joke and when not to. And if people think it's funny to harass and insult someone just to get attention, they're just as immature as she is. I'm sure you or anyone else wouldn't appreciate being called a racist repeatedly by someone you don't know. Yeah, Ayu's a celebrity so it's Neme knows who she is but that behavior is still uncalled for. She did it because she knew she would piss someone off, if not Ayu then her fans. That's just stupid and you know it babe.
Yeah, I know she has this "sense of humor", but that doesn't mean you have to be flat out ***** all the time. She is an attention ***** and right now she's probably "basking in all the glory" she thinks she has.

Ayu's reply was sweet though. lol
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Old 1st October 2010, 01:58 AM
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ren0210989;2506146]also, i think some people should take a good look at themselves, everyone was all in attack mode and hateful towards Nemesis, but as soon as Ayu forgave her, most people went to peace mode and said it's all water under the bridge now.... shallow much?
I'm a person without morals. I also hold grudges.
And no, I did not forgive her. So...yeah.

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I think ayu is the farthest thing from racist... shes the least judging person i think.
A) she always takes elements from other cultures
B) she uses black people often in MV (Microphone is one)
C) She uses drag queens (Lady Dynamite)
So why would Ayu judge anyone, or dislike anyone, or not reply to them based on their race, thats stupid... this is a silly argument.
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Old 1st October 2010, 02:08 AM
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this. kinda.

don't get me wrong, Neme did go overboard with the racism thing.
BUT! she did say what most people thought. don't get me wrong, i like a lot of the Spanish fans, hell, Laura is awesome as hell. but honestly you all? who can say that at least once didn't think 'oh ayu only tweets back to jorge, gigi and laura' ? or 'wow, they're spamming ayu's twitter again' or stuff like that?
honestly, everyone thought that at least once.

personally, i was sooo happy for you jorge when Ayu gave you so much attention, all the mentioning, the MC thing and all. you're like the luckiest fan alive, EVER! and not just the ayu thing, i mean, i doubt that any fan in the world was ever been that noticed by his/her idol, EVER!!!!
but when the thing with Ayu not coming to spain a few months ago happened, i wanted to punch and beat the crap out of you man. you whined so damn much, you were lit. hysterical about it! i saw it as disrespect and thought you were ungrateful. i could be wrong here, but i think you and miki spammed the hell out of twitter that time, and whined waaay too much, (i could be wrong, and all but, it was a while ago so i don't remember it all, n i apologize if i didn't mention someone or mentioned the wrong person) if it were not you guys, i'd think it was just some idiot fans trying to get pitiful attention from Ayu. i mean c'mon, you got so much attention from her, Ayu even wore your country's jersey/T-shirt on her tour!!! that's like... WOW! the greatest thing anyone could do to show how much she/he cares for that country and how much respect she has for Spain. and it's all thanks to YOU!!! you should all be honored as hell.

look at Brazil, we all know that brazil has more ayu fans than any other country outside Asia, and they got nothing like that from her.

once again don't take this too personal, or rude, i'm just saying. you guys are the luckiest persons alive, be grateful ne?

also, i think some people should take a good look at themselves, everyone was all in attack mode and hateful towards Nemesis, but as soon as Ayu forgave her, most people went to peace mode and said it's all water under the bridge now.... shallow much? i think it's morbid and makes you not only shallow, but kinda brainless too. can't you just think with your own heads and actually have an opinion of your own? you guys aren't stans, nor idiots, but why isn't anyone standing their ground for once?!!!
i'm a fan of ayu, and i love and really respect her as hell, but i have my own mind, i will never jump around her & consider her like a god or something. she's a huge influence in my life, but i can think with my own head, thank you.

now i'm sure i'll at least get a notice/red card or something for this post, and i can see that it might even get deleted, and people will probably attack me for this but i don't care. i really am not trying to be rude, nor am i jealous or attacking anyone, but i just had to say all of it. and i know for a fact that there's a lot of people thinking the same things, just not saying it here, and talk about it behind everyone.
You pretty much said everything I was thinking, Ren.

That & people, we all know Ayu's not racist. You don't have to keep bringing it up. It goes without saying that she isn't.
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Old 1st October 2010, 02:13 AM
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@ren: u know...some of us are naturally forgiving and are not going to obsess over what neme did (*raises hand* me, over here)...but u know...whatevs...
And I definitely don't want my thought process categorized the same as nemes. Not everyone will ponder on those things so much to build up such anger and frustration. As with this situation here of course too.


I think some people should just like...chill lol. But I get that's like impossible for some personalities.
But my advice...I don't mind the discussion. Its an interesting development. But can we chillax, babes
(Can't belive I just used the word "chillax" lol)
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@Ren what you're saying... idk. I just can't say I agree. I mean, the people who were mad at her when she did it and have now forgiven her since she apologized... how is that fake? Isn't it the stronger, more mature thing to do to forgive her and just forget about it all, rather than just stay mad & ****? It's a waste of time. Who the **** cares what she said anyway? In the end, it was all just an immature ploy for attention IMO, and as everyone can see, it worked BIG TIME.

And honestly? Anyone who thought all this **** was funny can **** off. People call themselves devoted ayu fans... so tell me, would you, as a devoted fan of ayu, or ANY artist for that matter, ever call that person racist & say insults to them "as a joke"? How is that even remotely funny at all? How does that show any respect for that person that you claim to have a deep love for as an artist? It's just not funny at all, no matter what sense of humor you have. It's just disrespectful and awful, and I'll never understand why some people do things like this.
Sorry for ranting. I know it's sort of irrelevant to ayus twitter, but at the same time it's not since all this ******** initially took place there...
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also, i think some people should take a good look at themselves, everyone was all in attack mode and hateful towards Nemesis, but as soon as Ayu forgave her, most people went to peace mode and said it's all water under the bridge now.... shallow much? i think it's morbid and makes you not only shallow, but kinda brainless too. can't you just think with your own heads and actually have an opinion of your own? you guys aren't stans, nor idiots, but why isn't anyone standing their ground for once?!!!
i'm a fan of ayu, and i love and really respect her as hell, but i have my own mind, i will never jump around her & consider her like a god or something. she's a huge influence in my life, but i can think with my own head, thank you.
I don't forgive her, because I don't believe she was sincere. I wouldn't tolerate such behavior towards ANYONE, not just Ayu. Regardless of how she and anyone else felt about Ayu's special treatment, what she did was uncalled for, period. Naturally Ayu's going to respond to the Japanese more often because Japanese is her native language as far as the Spanish fans are concerned, I don't know. But even if you're upset about her lack or response to other fans, there is a proper way to go about it. Not everyone is going to understand that "sense of humor" especially people from another culture who may not have been exposed to such a thing. If she was really concerned about that Ayu's responses she wouldn't have acted in such an undignified way... or maybe she would. I don't know her, but I do know stupidity when I see it. And that was stupid.
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And honestly? Anyone who thought all this **** was funny can **** off. People call themselves devoted ayu fans... so tell me, would you, as a devoted fan of ayu, or ANY artist for that matter, ever call that person racist & say insults to them "as a joke"? How is that even remotely funny at all? How does that show any respect for that person that you claim to have a deep love for as an artist? It's just not funny at all, no matter what sense of humor you have. It's just disrespectful and awful, and I'll never understand why some people do things like this.
Sorry for ranting. I know it's sort of irrelevant to ayus twitter, but at the same time it's not since all this ******** initially took place there...
I agree completely.

Maybe it was all in good fun for her, but you have to be careful who you say these things to. Not everybody finds it funny, some people do. But, we don't know Ayu personally, so we don't know what she finds humorous. But I mean it was obvious she did this to upset Ayu's fans. If you ever notice what she calls them.
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@Ren

I understand what you feel.

On what you said on your post:
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i'm a fan of ayu, and i love and really respect her as hell, but i have my own mind, i will never jump around her & consider her like a god or something.
Im just like that.




Whenever Ayu is online on Twitter, Im not trying to spam and repeating my message to her.
Even though there are very blessed people who got their reply either once or many times, Im trying not to saddened because I haven't got a single reply.


Im really bothered to the whole Ayu Spanish Fans vs. Neme-chan thing yesterday.


On the day were Ayu goes to Great Britain for the recording and actually meeting her in person is a very huge privilege for a fan. I hope she read all of the letters we made on A WORLD IS ONE fanbook: a reminder of she has lots of fans around the world.


Im not mad or jealous or anything, but whenever you get a single or frequent reply to her... be grateful. That's all I can say.
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well, i think ayu just "forgave her"/didn't think it was a big deal because she didn't understand or see all that she was saying. i get the feeling ayu just saw the tweet she responded to, and thought nemesis was feeling bad for not getting enough attention and wanted to let her know she does care about all of her fans. if she knew exactly what nemesis called her and what she said about spanish fans i don't think she would have been so nice to her and say that she shouldn't have to apologize.

also, i don't get the people complaining so much about spanish fans getting responses. sure, ayu pays more attention to them, but i also see her replying to a lot of other random people in English too, not just them. i've seen so many people on AHS (not spanish fans) bragging about getting responses. it's great.

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And honestly? Anyone who thought all this **** was funny can **** off. People call themselves devoted ayu fans... so tell me, would you, as a devoted fan of ayu, or ANY artist for that matter, ever call that person racist & say insults to them "as a joke"? How is that even remotely funny at all? How does that show any respect for that person that you claim to have a deep love for as an artist? It's just not funny at all, no matter what sense of humor you have. It's just disrespectful and awful, and I'll never understand why some people do things like this.
Sorry for ranting. I know it's sort of irrelevant to ayus twitter, but at the same time it's not since all this ******** initially took place there...
i agree with you. i don't get how it's funny. and then there are people on twitter saying ayu fans are "crazy" for getting upset at something like this? LOL ok. there would be something extremely wrong/****ed up with her fanbase if they weren't upset by something like this.

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People don't seem to understand Nemes' sense of humour.

And even if Ayu doesn't, she at least, understands fans.

And yes, Nemes is a fan. But she doesn't need me to defend her, so.
Well, it seens like Ayu just though "Wth?! LOL!" and life continues...

People over here seens to think Ayu is made of glass or something... Take a look at her lyrics, take a look at her videos, at her performances, at her music... take a look at her life! The girl is not made of glass, she most likelly has more balls and is more agressive than almost everyone on this forum o.O

Actually, too much balls and too much agressiveness to bother with some random twitter fan-troll!
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The thing is, it's not funny. It's rude and it shows she has no social grace and no common sense to know when to joke and when not to. And if people think it's funny to harass and insult someone just to get attention, they're just as immature as she is. I'm sure you or anyone else wouldn't appreciate being called a racist repeatedly by someone you don't know. Yeah, Ayu's a celebrity so it's Neme knows who she is but that behavior is still uncalled for. She did it because she knew she would piss someone off, if not Ayu then her fans. That's just stupid and you know it babe.
As I said, you guys don't seem to understand Neme's sens of humour, or who she is. But that's negligent. I wouldn't expect you to.

I don't think it's that big a deal. Neme likes to make jokes or do things as they come to her.

What was so incredibly dire about having Ayu on twitter this time that it wouldn't be a time for her to make a joke? I don't see anything out of the ordinary. Because it's a message sent to Ayu? lol

It's not really harassment either. She sent 5 or 6 messages out of the hundreds that Ayu receives and (possibly) reads, and she probably thought Ayu wouldn't even look at them.

Of course it's stupid. That's why it's funny to us, who understand her...the little that we may.


What's really sad is that, it's actually possible for her to get this much of a rise out of people.

Ayu certainly didn't react that way and, to me, that's what counts. I think she recognized it as, either a joke, or, a longing of a fan to get attention from her.

Either way, it's not as big a deal as everyone is making it out to be.


@Andrenekoi: yeah I know. Another reason why I don't see what the big deal is.

Ayu is not an idiot, and deserves much more credit.
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^ It doesn't matter if it's someones 'sense of humour.' It's not on to call someone a racist like that. It's just not.
For example, if my sense of humour involved punching strangers that doesn't mean it's okay to do it.
Whatever. Ayu is above this kinds of crap anyway
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As I said, you guys don't seem to understand Neme's sens of humour, or who she is. But that's negligent. I wouldn't expect you to.

I don't think it's that big a deal. Neme likes to make jokes or do things as they come to her.

What was so incredibly dire about having Ayu on twitter this time that it wouldn't be a time for her to make a joke? I don't see anything out of the ordinary. Because it's a message sent to Ayu? lol

It's not really harassment either. She sent 5 or 6 messages out of the hundreds that Ayu receives and (possibly) reads, and she probably thought Ayu wouldn't even look at them.

Of course it's stupid. That's why it's funny to us, who understand her...the little that we may.


What's really sad is that, it's actually possible for her to get this much of a rise out of people.

Ayu certainly didn't react that way and, to me, that's what counts. I think she recognized it as, either a joke, or, a longing of a fan to get attention from her.

Either way, it's not as big a deal as everyone is making it out to be.
I don't really find it that big a deal and I'm not angry about it (even though I give off that vibe, ne? xD) but at the same time, I don't think "she was just joking" should be an excuse for what she did. You're right, not everyone will understand her, I most certainly don't. So she should be careful from now on as to how she treats people. Because she may just have pissed off Ayu fans today, but she might make a joke to someone who will not find it so "haha funny" and it could have major consequences. I just hope she understands that much.
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