[TeamAyu] Ayu is getting divorced II

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by Yannetakizawa

Please enough of this subject
it's been three days ^ _ ^
have to forget it, yes?
let's think about the next work, she already had enough problems because of these 3 days.

Agreed! People need to stop talking and discussing about this, ayu divorced, PERIOD. Move on. ~

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

Originally Posted by RayJason

Agreed! People need to stop talking and discussing about this, ayu divorced, PERIOD. Move on. ~

I agree wholeheartedly.

I just hope she's OK. She's a strong woman, and we'll all support her under the same sky.

UGH the "fans" make me so angry. Some of the things that come out of their mouths...I just wish I could beat them with a frying pan. I'm so serious.

Nobody can judge anybody else. And all people can do is speculate, because ONLY ayu and Mannie really know the honest, intimate details. And why speculate? Damn gossips. Just hope for ayu's happiness and support her if you really are a fan!

Otherwise, you disgust me, and give all ayu fans a bad name.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

Otherwise, you disgust me, and give all ayu fans a bad name.

Well, guess we have nothing to worry about then.

@jesscat: hasn't it been like...a day? And conversation is already getting stale cause it's such a touchy subject

[koumori]

Originally Posted by emiko

@jesscat: hasn't it been like...a day? And conversation is already getting stale cause it's such a touchy subject

I understand totally why people would want it to not be discussed. It's such a horrible, heartbreaking subject; the whole concept of divorce is just upsetting.

However, people are going to discuss it; and it's not something to be frowned upon. It's natural. Ayu is infamously as honest as she can be, especially through her music; her life has affected her music for as long as she has had a career as a singer. When a singer is that open with her fans about her feelings and certain parts of her life, it's going to affect fans a lot when something like this happens.

I can see both parts of people's opinions. Personally, I've been avoiding the threads for the most part - but that's just me. I have no problem with people talking about it. It's to be expected. Anyone who thinks people should already "move on" because they're afraid of Ayu-bashing needs to stop taking people's comments (or would-be comments) about Ayu so personally. A celebrity will get judged. It shouldn't affect your opinion of her, so don't let it affect you in general.

[haikudasai]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

Otherwise, you disgust me, and give all ayu fans a bad name.

Nobody can judge anybody else.

oh.

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I've given Ayumi a lot of money during my fandom. I can think and converse whatever the hell I want to.

Blind fans are the worst. Is that judging?

So did she have the Middle East thing long planned out cause it's convenient that she flew off there after her announcement.

[Lady_Eowyn]

Originally Posted by SheFliesHigher

My fiance speculated that she had married Mannie to gain citizenship to the US, which would help her start a career here. He thinks it was more like a business decision.

I don't think Ayu is that cold and conniving, but I 100% do not believe that she ever seriously was going to move to the US. And give up her singing career in Japan? The thing that she has said in multiple interviews that she cannot live without? Nooooo way. If she ever thought about doing this, she obviously regretted it.

Some people have said that her not registering her marriage in Japan is understandable if she planned to move to the US anyway. I disagree, and think it shows hesitation on her part. What would be the harm in registering? In fact, registering seems like the smarter decision anyway, in case her or Mannie's plans change. Either Ayu didn't plan for her future at all, or she had second thoughts. I go with the latter. I think the marriage was an act of passion, and when the passion cooled off, she was like, "this isn't what I want after all." It's a very human situation, so I don't begrudge her at all. If anything, it shows again how she's a real person and not some Goddess.

This quote is brilliant. Wish i said that myself

Anyway, ambiguity and ambivalence have been always an ayu's signature, as i see it. even her lyrics are usually never that precise or clear, they tend to be vague (and yes, poetic, i won't deny that quality) so this statement, i think, describes her perfectly. I especially like the last line, because imho many people here puts her in some sort of altar, implying she's perfect and with no flaws (which is something i obviously disagree with), and what's worst, if you don't agree with them they claim you are not a true fan. One thing is liking an artist and admiring their strong points and one different is being totally blind about yur fandom . Which is something i have no desire to repeat anymore.

Originally Posted by emiko

If you don't like the discussions, stay out of the threads. That's all, sorry. No one wants to see you complain about everyone.


I do hate all the "better fan" self righteousness though lol That's just stupid.

I can gossip all day about Ayu, and still love and support her. Discussing the divorce, on a forum, about Ayu...doesn't really do all that much to change anything imo. It's just discussion.

Totally agree with you

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

UGH the "fans" make me so angry. Some of the things that come out of their mouths...I just wish I could beat them with a frying pan. I'm so serious.

You made my day with this quote

Edit: By the way, i also wanted to comment about the "infamous" book being the reason of divorce. To be honest, i'm SURPRISED to see people who believes mannie's book is "gross". With all due respect, i don't understand why is this gross. It's the human body. What is wrong with that? did you guys were born with clothes? a huge part of ayu's career is modeling, even now she is a spokesperson for tons of products, and also some of her photoshots have included nudity and a lot of sexual connotations; if what she did before is considered here erotic and artistic why what he does is gross?