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Old 21st March 2012, 04:38 PM
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let this be a lesson for her management..

1st ugly cover
2nd so-so video
3rd no promotion

and last one

try to hear WHAT we as FANS want..

they just don't listen
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Old 21st March 2012, 05:53 PM
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try to hear WHAT we as FANS want..

they just don't listen
How can they listen if every fan wants something else. Some want another I am... and MY STORY, others want her to do genre x or style y, others want her to do something completely new. She got closest to the last one this time around and that's always a gigantic risk. Just look at Madonna, her best albums tend to be her more experimental ones, yet the ones that sell crazily well are the "typical" Madonna ones. American Life -> flop, Confessions on a Dancefloor -> one of the biggest albums of the 00s.

I just want Ayumi to do what she wants to, if I don't like it I simply won't buy it, but expecting her to do what we want to would turn her into a marionette rather than an artist.
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Old 21st March 2012, 05:59 PM
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let this be a lesson for her management..

1st ugly cover
2nd so-so video
3rd no promotion

and last one

try to hear WHAT we as FANS want..

they just don't listen
hmmm...

i guess she did listen, because i freaking love this album.
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Old 21st March 2012, 06:04 PM
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hmmm...

i guess she did listen, because i freaking love this album.
Me too, it's exactly the kind of album I hoped for. Well, I hope for her to do something we haven't had while still using some familiar elements and that's what Party Queen is. If I want more of the same I'll listen to 98% of the other J-Pop artists and the Ayu clones xD Especially the one with the supersized head who I won't name as to not start a flamewar.
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i guess she did listen, because i freaking love this album.
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Old 22nd March 2012, 01:37 AM
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let this be a lesson for her management..

1st ugly cover
2nd so-so video
3rd no promotion

and last one

try to hear WHAT we as FANS want..

they just don't listen
So darn true... avex needs to stop taking ayu's name for granted. Stop being lazy. They used to promote the heck out of her back during her "golden sales age", then they said "oh she had golden sales! It'll stay forever!" then walked away..

no..
they need to reign in on the pretty great music she's been producing (as a whole) and promote the darn thing. Magazines aren't enough to do it.
Good thing she's got all those tv things planned...are they performances & an interview kinda thing?!
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Old 22nd March 2012, 08:35 PM
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I believe this was the way they wanted the covers to be. Over the top and tacky. Yes the execution does seem like it totally failed, but do tabloid magazines and paparazzi pics really look any better? Do dead drunk party queens look like princesses when in fact they are sad and depressed? No.
Personally, I think the execution was brilliant. Taking the cover art at surface value will lead to disappointment; if people take a few minutes to consider the purpose then they will find it fits the bill. For this reason I absolutely love these covers as it looks like a lot of work has gone into the concept. However, I don't think they're comparable to her classier cover art. They need to be looked at from a different perspective: these covers aren't just about her looking gorgeous but, rather, they're putting out a message. The downfall is not the tackiness but the fact the producers neglected to include a strong anchor within the cover art (eg: a sample of the lyrics that might help set the tone) that would ensure that only their preferred interpretation of the image would be put across - as a result they left the cover art much more open for a negative response.


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they need to reign in on the pretty great music she's been producing (as a whole) and promote the darn thing. Magazines aren't enough to do it.
I agree with this. Even more so because we're coming into an age where print media is slowly becoming redundant and this means that magazines definitely aren't enough to reach the intended audience.
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Personally, I think the execution was brilliant. Taking the cover art at surface value will lead to disappointment; if people take a few minutes to consider the purpose then they will find it fits the bill. For this reason I absolutely love these covers as it looks like a lot of work has gone into the concept. However, I don't think they're comparable to her classier cover art. They need to be looked at from a different perspective: these covers aren't just about her looking gorgeous but, rather, they're putting out a message. The downfall is not the tackiness but the fact the producers neglected to include a strong anchor within the cover art (eg: a sample of the lyrics that might help set the tone) that would ensure that only their preferred interpretation of the image would be put across - as a result they left the cover art much more open for a negative response.
I agree about how a lot of work has been done regarding the concept (because it's true; the lyrics and all that's been happening to her during the album's making), but I think it's unfortunate that the execution of how 'deep' (or 'profound' or whatever, coin your own adjective ) the album is is too subtle; it's something I suppose the general audience can't afford

I'm hoping she'd get more exposure on TV. Talks/interviews and performances will help, I believe.

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