[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Party Queen~ - Page 12

Jason · #**221** 22nd March 2012, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Amuro_Ray

If get #2 finally, I just afraid one thing........It is A Best 3 in this year..

I was just thinking about this in work today

Not that A BEST 3 will get released because of the low sales. But that I feel we're kind of due another best of compilation. we're 6 full albums (I know Secret was out before AB2 but there was no songs from Secret on it...) and 1 mini album removed from A BEST 2...

*looks at wallet and sighs*

KuuXAyu-fan · #**222** 22nd March 2012, 02:42 AM

But then the sales will get split between the yearly ranking for this year and then next. I hate it when that happens. :/

truehappiness · #**223** 22nd March 2012, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan

But then the sales will get split between the yearly ranking for this year and then next. I hate it when that happens. :/

Well, they'll figure something out. She released Love songs 8 months after Rock'n'Roll Circus and if she somehow manages to create a November/December album for 2012 she could very well do the same and preserve a "#1 every year" streak. Of course, that period of time is also very heavy with top contenders releasing albums so it's not a guarantee by any means that she'd get to the top.

ayuuk · #**224** 22nd March 2012, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Amuro_Ray

If get #2 finally, I just afraid one thing........It is A Best 3 in this year..

Why would relatively low sales suggest an A BEST 3? I am guessing, though, Avex would save that till next year? (But I am more interested in studio albums, rather than best/compilation albums.)

As for the sales, I am kinda curious about what the weekly sales would be like.

SunshineSlayer · #**225** 22nd March 2012, 02:57 AM

^ So that she can keep her record of having a number 1 album every year.

ayuuk · #**226** 22nd March 2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

^ So that she can keep her record of having a number 1 album every year.

But what about GUILTY?

truehappiness · #**227** 22nd March 2012, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ayuuk

Why would relatively low sales suggest an A BEST 3? I am guessing, though, Avex would save that till next year? (But I am more interested in studio albums, rather than best/compilation albums.)

As for the sales, I am kinda curious about what the weekly sales would be like.

It would only potentially happen if she didn't get #1 which isn't really guaranteed yet. Maybe when she gets 30k+ behind ABC? Even then, I wonder if she'll have a crazy weekend boost for whatever reason?

It's thought that A COMPLETE was released in 2008 because GUILTY was unable to get #1 for that Oricon year.

SunshineSlayer · #**228** 22nd March 2012, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ayuuk

But what about GUILTY?

A-Complete was released the same year, thus her having a number 1 album every year was kept alive.

ayuuk · #**229** 22nd March 2012, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

A-Complete was released the same year, thus her having a number 1 album every year was kept alive.

So it doesn't have to be studio albums for the No. 1 album record?

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

It would only potentially happen if she didn't get #1 which isn't really guaranteed yet. Maybe when she gets 30k+ behind ABC? Even then, I wonder if she'll have a crazy weekend boost for whatever reason?

It's thought that A COMPLETE was released in 2008 because GUILTY was unable to get #1 for that Oricon year.

Crazy weekend boost? Is that likely?

Thanks for the info on A COMPLETE, didn't think about that. I thought it was because of her 10th anniversary, though at that time I did find it a little weird given we just had A BEST 2 in 2007.

truehappiness · #**230** 22nd March 2012, 03:08 AM

It's not likely but it's a possibility. Mirrorcle World had an INSANE weekend boost after almost losing out to Shuchishin but that was thanks to concerts, it seems.

Here's a look at Mirrorcle's first week:

Spoiler:

I think Ayu could probably still snatch the number one in the coming days. It's still way too early to call IMO.

Another odd example is when HEAVEN was #2, #3, and #4 in the first week before ending up as #1 for the rest of the week resulting in a #1 at the end of the week.

Amuro_Ray · #**231** 22nd March 2012, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

Well, it has been a little over 5 years since A BEST 2....

However, I think they may wait for the 15th anniversary for A BEST 3.

I think that if this gets #2, we'll just get a new album at the VERY end of this Oricon year?

I think it is more hard for her to get #1 for 14th album.. (Sales will be lower than PQ probably.
As Avex still want Ayu to keep the record about "having #1 album every year" so I just afraid A Best 3 will be launched this year..

KuuXAyu-fan · #**232** 22nd March 2012, 03:19 AM

I'm not sure if this is exactly relevant but could someone post daily sales for the first week of ABC's last studio album? I just would like to see the sales pattern for his albums.

orbitalaspect · #**233** 22nd March 2012, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ohsixthirty

so...in order to restore her career, gain back her fans, etc... ayu should cancel her upcoming tour? yeah, i'm sure that would really make her fans go wild with happiness.

as for timmy/urata/juno using ayu to boost their careers, i am so sick of this argument. ayu does what she wants. if she wants to work with these people, it is her decision, its not as if they have tricked her into working with them just for their own gain. ayu did it because she wanted to. timmy is prominent right now because ayu is doing what she wants.

and most people are wondering whether ayu is a solo artist or a group now? uhmmm...i think most people are not wondering that at all. did we wonder that when shuya was in her PVs and in all her concerts? nope. obviously, some people don't like timmy, but i really think people are over exaggerating how much he's being featured. the only part where he is really obvious is in the NaNaNa rap, all his appearances in PVs and etc... are no different than Shuya's appearances or even random background chorals.

I think it would give her time off to actually focus on her music and not so much pushing out a record in less than two months. Her albums take the least amount of time to make of anyone I've known, and she actually seems to spend less time on an album as time goes on. Maybe some time investment in the music would help her bounce back like it did with Namie?

It's either Timmy or these guys grasping for straws, or it's Ayu just doing whatever is convenient at the moment? I like collabs, but she's working with people who aren't known. It would be nice to see her work with another well-established musician instead of someone Avex is trying to get a solo record ready for.

There have been numerous threads on AHS about whether SHU-YA and Ayumi were an item, whether he was gay, etc.. And tons of threads about how tired people were of seeing him everywhere. I've seen at least 3 in the 2.5 years I've been on and off of here just about whether they were dating or not.
I don't have a problem with Timmy being featured, but he's not as much a feature on this album. He is literally everywhere, in the production, in the songs, singing and rapping his own lines, having his own scenes in Ayu's PVs... I think it's a lot for someone no one really gives a damn about to be in so many places. I want this record for Ayumi. I didn't want a good collaboration on FIVE to turn into a full-blown album of "Party Queen ~Timmy Sing-Along Songs, Vol. 1~".

He's in the "KANPAI" in Party Queen; sings background vocals and raps in NaNaNa; background vocals in Shake It<3; background vocals in call; background vocals in Letter; background vocals on reminds me; choir in Return Road; complementary and background vocals in Tell me why; very clearly in the next LOVE; clearly in Eyes, Smoke, Magic background vocals and other complements; and he is the choir and background vocal in how beautiful you are. I am really surprised that he didn't invade the interludes and shout "TIMMY! TI-TI-Tiiiiiimmmy!" during taskebab. He's in two PVs (wasn't he in hbya too?!)

Several people have asked me if this is an "Ayu x Timmy" record. That's why I mention that people are confused as to whether Ayumi is still doing solo work.

truehappiness · #**234** 22nd March 2012, 03:34 AM

*2　30,765　Acid Black Cherry
*2　17,481　Acid Black Cherry
*2　10,579　Acid Black Cherry
*2　*6,569　Acid Black Cherry
*2　*5,539　Acid Black Cherry
*2 *6,335　Acid Black Cherry
*2 *2,769　Acid Black Cherry

He was 2nd to Arashi's ALL THE BEST.

　NEXT LE　Rock'n'　Love so　FIVE　　
―――――――――――――――――――――
月　---,---　 ---,---　 ---,---　 ---,---
火　*99,200　*85,142　*70,669　*56,258　　
水　*48,318　*42,288　*36,911　*27,004　
木　*24,935　*19,693　*21,854　*13,008　
金　*17,208　*15,297　*14,303　**9,235　
土　*18,089　*16,737　*12,729　**8,161　
日　*20,167　*14,841　*10,981　**9,078　
―――――――――――――――――――――
計　227,917　193,998　167,387　122,744　
初　240,810　205,058　180,048　127,024　
―――――――――――――――――――――
累　379,989　318,454　272,653　213,495　

Ayu's previous first weeks as a comparison.

Bigtop · #**235** 22nd March 2012, 03:34 AM

Unlucky 13?

brener · #**236** 22nd March 2012, 04:00 AM

probably =\\

jyujiw · #**237** 22nd March 2012, 04:02 AM

I'm a little sad with the sales, they don't mean a lot to me, but it's always nice seeing her on top. =)
But with the huge lack of promotion, it's understandable, one more point about being a "conceptual album": low sales haha xD

And AHS, why such a drama? People who are hating ayu since 2009 as it seems, please, log off. It's pretty simple

bluegie · #**238** 22nd March 2012, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

Another odd example is when HEAVEN was #2, #3, and #4 in the first week before ending up as #1 for the rest of the week resulting in a #1 at the end of the week.

Hmmn... I thought HEAVEN was no. 3 for two days and no. 1 for the rest of the week.. maybe I'm wrong

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Lots of reasons what bad sales, yet it's not the end of the week. Even if it's getting no. 2 in the end, it's not the end of the world.

truehappiness · #**239** 22nd March 2012, 04:28 AM

The #4 is fuzzy but I'm pretty sure she was 3rd and 2nd at some point.

brener · #**240** 22nd March 2012, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jyujiw

I'm a little sad with the sales, they don't mean a lot to me, but it's always nice seeing her on top. =)
But with the huge lack of promotion, it's understandable, one more point about being a "conceptual album": low sales haha xD

And AHS, why such a drama? People who are hating ayu since 2009 as it seems, please, log off. It's pretty simple

agreed!