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Old 26th December 2007, 11:54 PM
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"Marionette" PV Discussion!

Let's talk about the "Marionette" PV!

I loved...
- The sort of scary vibe of the PV.
- The white eyes were really cool and creepy.
- Ayu looks so so so amazing in the PV. I love the hair more and more.
- I'm so glad there were more scenes than the dancing one. I was afraid there would be nothing more than that scene.
- The dancing was actually good and matched the song, I'm quite surprised.
- I will watch it again! Which is rare when it comes to PVs for me. I usually only watch a PV once. If I watch it again, it really means I like it.

I didn't like...
- Shuya's smile. Ew.

I'm not sure what the ending means...
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Old 26th December 2007, 11:55 PM
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I just ...uhm...don´t get it XD ending was weird
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Old 26th December 2007, 11:58 PM
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I really like this pv...its my fav along with together when... for this album. I love the way ayu looks...her eyes, hair, and outfits. The way she zombie moved was . The atmosphere in the pv is great too.

The part where shuya smiled was freaky. He should keep his mouth closed...lol
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Old 26th December 2007, 11:59 PM
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i liked it. ayumi's eyes creeped me out, lol. but i thought her dress was pretty, the scenes of her in that room or whatever was cool, and i liked when everyone's eyes got back to normal and ayu started singing again. and their group pose at the end was kinda..funny, i guess? lol. i don't get it though, but nice PV.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:00 AM
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yeah nice indeed...very cool looking and all and the smile was the best..ayu mostly looked like a doll
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:01 AM
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the ending was funny. It's like finally **** she left. Time to party my puppet friends!!

overall - I really enjoyed the PV. Very dramatic and the eyes were cool. Didn't like the close ups of the dancers from time to time.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:02 AM
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It makes me want to buy contact lenses. I thinking maybe purple. Good promotion,,,

really.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:03 AM
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the ending was funny. It's like finally **** she left. Time to party my puppet friends!!

overall - I relaly enjoyed the PV. Very dramatic and the eyes were cool. Didn't like the close ups of the dancers from time to time.
yeah we scared that ***** to hell now we can bring out the alcohol....XD it ruined the whole built up atosphere XD
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:05 AM
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I like it a lot, actually. I think the ending (Ayu walking out, the musicbox!Ayu looking around, kinda confused) may represent this: musicbox!Ayu is like this little voice of hope inside the sleeping!Ayu's heart, and when s!Ayu wakes up and listens to mb!Ayu's message, she realizes she has to keep moving on and so just slowly takes those first steps and exits the room. Mb!Ayu, whose purpose is therefore done, is now wondering "Well... what next?" I kind of get the idea that the ending was on a confident note, sort of like they'd broken free, they were able to move again on their own and now they just had to bide their time.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:09 AM
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I can't describe it with words. It's simply amazing. Can't wait for the HQ rip.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:22 AM
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I was legit creeped out. I loved it, but the vibe of the PV and song
made me kind of scared. I can't wait to get my album now. And ayu's been dancing a lot this year, I wonder why?

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Old 27th December 2007, 12:26 AM
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The PV looked AMAZING.
I can't wait for a better rip though.
I don't know if it was just me or what but the video froze in certain spots for me and the video played slower than the music.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:30 AM
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the idea of the pv wass really good, but i got bored the first 2/3 of it, the last part was really interesting and my favorite part, but like i said the first 2 parts of the pv are boring and so repetitive :S

BUT, the outfit, the hair, the set, all was very well done

8/10 ( good PV, she has done better ones tho)
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:30 AM
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This is how I interpret this PV:

By reading the lyrics, I think the marionette show represents ayu past relationship. The real ayu is the media+fans eyes to what her life is. In that matter, she pretended her relationship to be beautiful and perfect, to be the role model (the way she's happily portrayed on TV on the PV), but it had flaws. ayu and her lover hid those imperfections by portraying a fake appearance of what it really looked like in order to try to maintain the appearances. This is the reason why "memories" loojk so beautiful, you'll be reminding of the good moments and erase the issues, but her relationship was troubled. In peopple's eyes, they were a perfect couple (reason why everytime the real ayu look at the marionette play, they are all back in their place and shape). It got to a point she was living like a lifeless being, she was not living what she really wanted for her, so she had to put that mask out (when the marionette's eyes becomes real and the strings are broken and she's set free), by admiting their love had flaws and there was more to the "memories" than those fake appearances, the real thing was the love wasn't the same anymore. It explain why she decided to announce her breaking up, despite the fact she was later criticized for ruining the relationship with the "good guy" by some media personalities.However, as she mentioned in past interviews and even on the lyrics, she didn't really care what people would think after that:

"Now, let's stand up without fear
For the sake of no one else

And rip off the masks
With our own hands"

It's interesting how both the song and PV seem to be related to Together When...:

-The PV for Together When... portrays a simillar story, the marionettes theme, the two lovers, the breaking up.
-After Together When... follows Marionette -prelude- and Marionette in sequence on the album GUILTY.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:49 AM
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Poor ayu. If her relationship was that troubled with Tomoya, I wondered why they stayed together for so long.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:56 AM
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I think ayu stayed with Tomoya so long was because she's not a quitter. But you see, it took lots of time until she finally decided to let go, and that's why we got this Together When..., Marionette prelude, Marionette thing on the album. It wasn't a simple process for her, from what she's telling us in song...

This PV was woooow. I have no words. I see the story the same way others did...it's about her inner self telling her to move on, and the real ayu is depressed (wasting away on the couch). The turning point was the storm outside. I loved her outfit, btw! Very chic and the set was awesome. The whole 'Marionette' thing reminds me of Sweeney Todd's look in the movie where it's got a gritty, creepy, victorian vibe. I can't wait till my copy comes in. This is really an awesome album with amazing PVs!
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:56 AM
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The PV looked AMAZING.
I can't wait for a better rip though.
I don't know if it was just me or what but the video froze in certain spots for me and the video played slower than the music.
I got the same problems, so I can't really enjoy the PV.
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Old 27th December 2007, 12:58 AM
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I think ayu stayed with Tomoya so long was because she's not a quitter. But you see, it took lots of time until she finally decided to let go, and that's why we got this Together When..., Marionette prelude, Marionette thing on the album. It wasn't a simple process for her, from what she's telling us in song...

This PV was woooow. I have no words. I see the story the same way others did...it's about her inner self telling her to move on, and the real ayu is depressed (wasting away on the couch). The turning point was the storm outside. I loved her outfit, btw! Very chic and the set was awesome. The whole 'Marionette' thing reminds me of Sweeney Todd's look in the movie where it's got a gritty, creepy, victorian vibe. I can't wait till my copy comes in. This is really an awesome album with amazing PVs!
Agreed, whole-heartedly! Especially about the Victorian, Sweeney Todd-esque look to it.
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Old 27th December 2007, 01:07 AM
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okay so the ending really confused the crap outta me
but this is her best PV of the year
it's been awhile since we've seen such a dark video
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Old 27th December 2007, 01:10 AM
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I really enjoyed this PV...the set, costumes, everything. The song made it even better haha. Only the ending confused me but...oh wells.
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