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Old 15th October 2008, 04:55 AM
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Ayu's late friend

Sorry If there is a thread but the search function isn't working for me (may be a problem with my connection).

But who is the friend of Ayu's that passed last year, the one who's song is untitled? Did ayu ever release her name or a picture of her?
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Old 15th October 2008, 02:46 PM
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There's no photo, but I think we know that it's someone that was nicknamed as ANEKI by Ayu.

She worked with Ayu during a drama when Ayu was a teen.
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Japanese fansites say that ayu called Ayumi Ogata "ANEKI". I haven't seen any pictures of her, but apparently that's her name.
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Old 15th October 2008, 03:37 PM
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^Ayumi? It's Natsuki, isn't it?

PS. Couldn't she be Natsuki?
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Old 15th October 2008, 06:03 PM
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^Ayumi? It's Natsuki, isn't it?

PS. Couldn't she be Natsuki?
^ yeah, i think it's her.

There's another picture of her from Deji Deji Diary (vol. 63):




Where did this Ayumi-Ogata-Aneki came from? I always thought it was Natsuki who died... : O
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Old 15th October 2008, 06:32 PM
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^Yeah, I thought it's Toyoda Natsuki...
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Old 15th October 2008, 06:39 PM
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Thanks for the info everyone.

It seems she commited suicide. How horrible.
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Old 15th October 2008, 07:10 PM
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^ Really? I had the impression she died of some illness.
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Old 15th October 2008, 07:25 PM
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It's from TeamAyu Message 234 where Ayumi wrote about that "Aneki" had passed away. Natsuki and Ayumi Ogata/"Aneki" (尾形あゆみ) are two different persons. This is because in A Song for album credits they are both listed. Also at ayu family profiles, they aren't the same person: http://ip.tosp.co.jp/i.asp?i=ayufamily0.

It was prior to the HEY!x3 recording last years Novemeber when it was rumored that it was Natsuki who died, but there was no confirmation whatsoever (?) until June this year. As of now, I'm still trying to hunt for more Twins Teacher drama episodes (the one with both Ayu and Ayumi Ogata), they exist, but next to impossible to collect. I would be able to get to know how "Aneki" looked like.

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^ Really? I had the impression she died of some illness.
I have a feeling we'll never know the cause of her death. Only rumors about it perhaps but no facts.
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Old 15th October 2008, 07:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was Natsuki Toyoda that passed away, and she committed suicide. That's the person Ayu wrote untitled ~for her~ for, to my understanding.
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This is where I read she commited suicide:
http://www.ayumi-hamasaki.net/forumv...php?f=3&t=8926
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She was in the For My Dear... PV as well. I hope she didn't commit suicide! That would be so terrible -- especially knowing how much Ayu esteemed her.
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Old 15th October 2008, 08:17 PM
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On another note, more proof that it wasn't Natsuki who passed away. GUILTY booklet says:

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This album is dedicated to a dearest person.
May she rest in peace...

1976-2007
Natsuki was born in 1979.
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Old 15th October 2008, 08:54 PM
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^But didn't ayu say during the first All Night Nippon that Natsuki's 2 years older?

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Originally Posted by All Night Nippon
She is twenty-two years old, two years older than Ayu.
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The suicide rumors came from the ~untitled~ for her lyrics I think, something about "you chose to go this way" or whatever. (Can't find the lyrics since the search function is down for me)
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Lyrics translation by masa:
We walked hand in hand
We laughed and cried over trivial things

We were innocent and bright in those days

** If I could have just a wish come true now
I want to see you again

You decided that day
That you would walk all alone
On the endless road
Over that cloud to the sky

Leaving here so many things
I want to tell of and talk about

We walked without holding hands
We quarreled over trivial things and got stubborn

Even the stupid quarrels are my sweet memories now

** (repeat)

Supposing everyone goes on the endless road
Over that cloud to the sky
Sooner or later
Be sure to wait for me

And then, we will talk away
With our countless memories

Can you see me from your place ?
Are you watching over me ?

Though this may be a common expression
You stay alive
Always as you are
In my heart

However many times the seasons may pass
Our days are fadeless
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Lyrics translation by masa:
We walked hand in hand
We laughed and cried over trivial things

We were innocent and bright in those days

** If I could have just a wish come true now
I want to see you again

You decided that day
That you would walk all alone

On the endless road
Over that cloud to the sky

Leaving here so many things
I want to tell of and talk about

We walked without holding hands
We quarreled over trivial things and got stubborn

Even the stupid quarrels are my sweet memories now

** (repeat)

Supposing everyone goes on the endless road
Over that cloud to the sky
Sooner or later
Be sure to wait for me

And then, we will talk away
With our countless memories

Can you see me from your place ?
Are you watching over me ?

Though this may be a common expression
You stay alive
Always as you are
In my heart

However many times the seasons may pass
Our days are fadeless
Thanks for posting them! The bold part is what I meant, "you decided", meaning it was her choice to die. That's what sparked suicide rumors.
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Old 16th October 2008, 05:58 PM
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There's been alot of discussion about whether or not "ANEKI" was Natsuki, but ayu calls natsuki "natsuki" in cd thanks and, obviously, dejideji nikki. (And I think I saw somewhere that Natsuki was born in 1976?)

Ayu gave the actual "ANEKI" nickname to Ayumi Ogata, and since ayu used "aneki" to explain who died in her TA messages, I'm fairly sure it was Ayumi Ogata rather than Natsuki.
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Old 16th October 2008, 06:36 PM
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Good point about that ANN radio broadcast. I guess it's more trustworthy than that fansite. It's weird how one claims 1979 and another 1976 though.
Here is some more information about "ANEKI" I think (might be, I don't understand it fully):

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▼ANEKI
本名「尾形あゆみ」。アユの堀越高校時代(女優・アイドル時代)からの友人であり、姉の『あねあね』と共に アユにさまざまな社会的な「良いこと」「悪いこと」を教えてくれた貴重な存在。今はマネージャ的な役目を果 たしている!?以前放送していた「ミュージック・エンタ」や「LOVE LOVE あいしてる」などでちょこっと顔を出していました♪
Taken from the following URL: http://ip.tosp.co.jp/i.asp?I=taka1976&P=6
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Old 16th October 2008, 07:20 PM
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But Natsuki's name wasn't mentioned in GUILTY's special thanks... And I haven't seen "Aneki" there since... Duty? : /
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