[Rumour] Hamasaki Ayumi kissing her boss according to the new leaked images

[evolution7931]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

The point is, if its ever completely proven that she was, then yes it would be a big deal. It wouldn't matter if its still going on or not. As I said before, it would raise a lot of issues in terms of preferential treatment and then even the somewhat coup of Max/Ayu vs. Avex's board of directors and President back in 2004 might be brought up as a major issue as well. (the media would probably find some kind of connection between the two events) All would be to the detriment of the amount of respect for Ayu in the eyes of the general public and probably many fans as well. I've already seen several Japanese fans actually express that this was the reason they quit being a Hamasaki fan, even though its never been 100% confirmed. (as I said, this rumor has been prominent in Japan for a looong time)

Exactly

[njanjayrp]

Prominent in Japan for some time now (where is the proof?)? Wow, is Ayu really that popular that the general public is still talking about what she might've done 10 years ago? Funny how until now people haven't mentioned it

Well, I guess some simply live for making a big deal out of everything that's negative when it comes to Ayu. But don't worry, this will affect her as much as the ViVi book promo incident did. If things like this actually had an affect on her career I think she'd be long gone by now.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Prominent in Japan for some time now (where is the proof?)? Wow, is Ayu really that popular that the general public is still talking about what she might've done 10 years ago? Funny how until now people haven't mentioned it

Well, I guess some simply live for making a big deal out of everything that's negative when it comes to Ayu. But don't worry, this will affect her as much as the ViVi book promo incident did. If things like this actually had an affect on her career I think she'd be long gone by now.

This issue has been mentioned several times - even on this forum - its definitely nothing new at all. And rumors like this HAVE effected her popularity in Japan but being outside of Japan, people generally don't see it as much. Making a big deal about everything that's negative when it comes to Ayu? Well, THIS is a big deal if proved true believe it or not.

[andre2907]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

The point is, if its ever completely proven that she was, then yes it would be a big deal. It wouldn't matter if its still going on or not. As I said before, it would raise a lot of issues in terms of preferential treatment and then even the somewhat coup of Max/Ayu vs. Avex's board of directors and President back in 2004 might be brought up as a major issue as well. (the media would probably find some kind of connection between the two events) All would be to the detriment of the amount of respect for Ayu in the eyes of the general public and probably many fans as well. I've already seen several Japanese fans actually express that this was the reason they quit being a Hamasaki fan, even though its never been 100% confirmed. (as I said, this rumor has been prominent in Japan for a looong time)

@LacusCayne: Yes, I agree.

I agree.

But I don't think it would affect her career at all at this point. I mean, Ayu has a huge fanbase but she isn't loved by the mainstream Japanese public (like Namie Amuro at the moment or SMAP or Johnny's or EXILE). Right now, imo, she has a career closer to Seiko Matsuda (except with decent CD sales) and her biggest profit comes from touring, she is more capable of selling-out huge arenas than more popular artists (like Seiko) and her fans are quite fanatic.

Why am I comparing her to Seiko Matsuda? Because she, Seiko, is the QUEEN of controversy. She made some things in the past that would make Madonna blush (relationship with bazillion different guys, cheating on bazillion different guys - everything caught by the media, drug abuse, was responsible for the suicide attempt of another huge female artist, was the responsible for the suicide attempt of her own daughter, had fights with her past agencies, etc. etc). And look, she still is selling-out huge arenas all over Japan, CM deals and has a huge fanbase. So there you go, I don't think it'll affect Ayu that much.

Anyway, surprise surprise, I always thought a relationship between the two of them was quite obvious. The whole "believing in her blindly after listening to her at a karaoke" thing ALWAYS sounded fishy and somewhat unbelievable. And Ayu and AVEX, like most Jpop artists and agencies, have lots and lots of skeletons in their closets.

[emi♡]

^Is it? I never thought the direction he's taken ayu's career in was boring...annoying maybe. Considering that he's ruined a lot of her recent releases with bad representation...I'd say it's okay for people to care.

and no she isn't now (as far as people can tell I guess, we never know)...but I think it's pretty obvious they were.

Despite being unconfirmed. But whatever. That's just my opinion...people can believe whatever. It doesn't really matter...but just the fact that it's come up...and that there are pictures...where it really actually looks like her...I mean...that's not good lol

[zyoeru]

Originally Posted by emiko

^Is it? I never thought the direction he's taken ayu's career in was boring...annoying maybe. Considering that he's ruined a lot of her recent releases with bad representation...I'd say it's okay for people to care.

But was a mention of Kazuyoshi really necessary in this thread? I'm not saying it's boring the direction he's taking. I actually quite like it. But it's boring to hear people go on and on and on and on and on.

and no she isn't now (as far as people can tell I guess, we never know)...but I think it's pretty obvious they were.

Despite being unconfirmed. But whatever. That's just my opinion...people can believe whatever. It doesn't really matter...but just the fact that it's come up...and that there are pictures...where it really actually looks like her...I mean...that's not good lol

She won't be the first person to get involved with her boss, and definitely not the last.

[mcluva420]

LOL @ pic!!

[douggn]

lol the Chinese media, something funny to read to lighten my spirits since my cat got let out last night and hasnt come back yet

[BluishDays]

>_< This comes up once a year I think lol

[ren0210989]

lol this is all just so old ond over-used
so what if they kissed? and even if they had some kind of relationship?? seriouslly... who gives a damn? it's all soooo past tense....

[murasakinohana]

just some nonsensical rumors..

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

I'd totally go for Max, he has cash!!!

[chloeM]

so what if she really kissed that guy~

[ownsarai]

It doesn't even look like they were really kissing in the picture anyhow. Chinese tabloids...

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by naxxo.licious™

Ohh, my bad lol. I just thought u were implying sth else lol.

lol I'd imply that just for the hell of it

see what people say.

[evolution7931]

Doesn't surprise me really not that I care but it is shady.

Who would take an 18 year old girl with almost ZERO ability to sing (vocals on ASFXX album) and send her to another country free for a few months to take singing lessons for nothing? It doesnt even seem like a worthwhile investment since she didn't even seem like a good singer at that time

Oh well I'd totally sleep my way to the top if I knew a record producer who found me hot even if he was like 50. Morals are a thing of the past

[noidea]

Originally Posted by evolution7931

Doesn't surprise me really not that I care but it is shady.

Who would take an 18 year old girl with almost ZERO ability to sing (vocals on ASFXX album) and send her to another country free for a few months to take singing lessons for nothing? It doesnt even seem like a worthwhile investment since she didn't even seem like a good singer at that time

Oh well I'd totally sleep my way to the top if I knew a record producer who found me hot even if he was like 50. Morals are a thing of the past

Did you watch her early live performances around poker face era? she actually sang very good in them, her voice might have been annoying, but she sounded almost exactly like the recordings.

And why not take her? Britnery Spears got a record deal as well

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by noidea

And why not take her? Britnery Spears got a record deal as well

The difference is that Britney had actively been trying to get a record deal for years doing a number of auditions for record companies.(not saying she should have gotten one, haha) Ayu on the other hand - by her own admission - was basically doing nothing but hanging out with friends and going to clubs day in and out.

[mcluva420]

oh no..ayu's past is coming back to haunt her!
is this what she meant when she wrote the line~"i wish i can forgive my past"

[evolution7931]

LOL she's always been trying to hide her past, brush it under the rug & forget about it

I wanna know what she did cus it's oh-so-scandalousss!!