Green PV Discussion

[taskinillusion]

Yeah, so I really LOVED this PV. And I still do. It's gorgeous and has some very iiiinteresting subject matter!

[Yum!Fruit_Salad!]

^ Couldn't agree with you more !

[jbrat2219]

I made my brother, who isn't an Ayu fan (yet >D ) watch GREEN and give me his opinion. He doesn't know any Japanese so he can't go by lyrics to help identify the content of the PV. He watched the entire thing and when I asked him what it was about he said, "I dunno dancing?" And I sighed and said, "It's about surpressed homosexual love" and he then lit up and said, "I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT BUT I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SMACK ME" xD;;;; So apparently, even if it was presented well, she got her point across lol... xD;

[Delirium-Zer0]

My sister is really into filmmaking and she had kind of an interesting take on it...

With the art direction the way it is, the acting needed to be more natural. But if the video had been in black & white and given a silent movie feel, the overacting would have been PERFECT for it.

I might go into some video editors & mess with the video like that just to see what happens. ~

[Uemarasan]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

With the art direction the way it is, the acting needed to be more natural. But if the video had been in black & white and given a silent movie feel, the overacting would have been PERFECT for it.

Well, when technicolor came out, melodramatic movies wherein the acting was obviously artificial were still being made. Douglas Sirk movies, for example.

I really can't help but think that the overacting in the beginning is intentional. It's like an extension of Ayu's performance in the theater. And clearly her character isn't as happy as she makes her out to be in the beginning, given that she can't express her love for the one she really loves. So she acts overly joyous walking down the street. And then that's why I think her movements become more natural as the video progresses and reveals what she really feels in the end. The colors go from warm to cold, the mood from happy to sad, the acting from artificial to subdued.

I don't know why I keep defending this music video. I don't even like it all that much! For me, rarely has an Ayu video matched the greatness of an Ayu song. I can only think of: M, Endless Sorrow, Moments, Heaven, Jewel, part of me. Maybe Voyage but I need to see the long version.

[Uemarasan]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

I'm personally impressed that ayu FINALLY made something different with her themes, poorly executed or not. I'm tired of her lyrics always talking about the same type of love, paths to follow, one winged angels and deceased friends/parents. The same themes always, about the same old guy/love/road. This seems to show she finally decided to make her themes more broader and it definitely gave a different light to the lyrics that really didn't seem much distinct from her previous at first.

I disagree. I actually like how she sticks to these themes. It's similar to what good poets do. And she did say that she writes about only two things: love and freedom.

Sylvia Plath wrote about the same things and themes over and over and over and used the same images again and again, but I would not say that she failed as a poet. In fact, because she chose to focus on these and develop them throughout her career, she was able to perfect her skill in writing.

If Ayu wrote about as much things as possible, I think she would not be as great and wise a lyricist as she is. She'd end up like Hikki, who writes about a lot of interesting things, but what she's saying isn't really all that profound.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by Uemarasan

I disagree. I actually like how she sticks to these themes. It's similar to what good poets do. And she did say that she writes about only two things: love and freedom.

Sylvia Plath wrote about the same things and themes over and over and over and used the same images again and again, but I would not say that she failed as a poet. In fact, because she chose to focus on these and develop them throughout her career, she was able to perfect her skill in writing.

If Ayu wrote about as much things as possible, I think she would not be as great and wise a lyricist as she is. She'd end up like Hikki, who writes about a lot of interesting things, but what she's saying isn't really all that profound.

But the latest ayu lyrics have clearly been lacking in really *profound* poetry if that's what you mean...GREEEN sounded a slightly better, but after seeing the PV I actually think it became more special, because I noticed this time she didn't got stuck in the same kind of love she's often talking about in her lyrics. It's all about joining wings and following roads, or departures and all the same recycled stuff. I personally don't see that much of an improvement tbh. I don't mind her lyrics that much, but she can talk about something else for a change, or she can do like what I meant, talk about love, but talk about *different* kinds and ways of loving...not just "love is the half~half to join together by following a certain road" stuff. In the beginning, ayu seemed to touch people with her lyrics more, because she talked about insecurity and other things that many people could relate to.

And since you mention Hikki, I wonder why Hikki has been so popular lately in Japan. Maybe it's because she actually does what you just mentioned, and try different things that appeal to different audiences?

[Woef!]

I really loved the video. The only thing I really don't like is the men acting weird at the entrance with their weird jumping.

[jojo-chen]

i love it.
the cinematics was great, well I think when she walks the streets it's like "oh hello Shanghai, I'm here, and now I'm falling in love" I just love her expression, it's cute.

[YumeHamasaki]

what's wrong with having dancing in videos or performing in videos? i dont' get it. The pv was good, i do believe there is a deeper meaning. I'm kind alazy so i'll be brief for now:
Ayu is walking around singing about how she doesn't reveal her feelings, and she's just smiling about...lala...and why are people so icky about her lipsynching? it's no diff than usual. Get over it.
She's daning around, eyeing all these people, smiling, but inside/backs tage, she's somber about it all. She knows she's gotta put on a show of emotions, so she goes out there. They used a women to dance with her i guess to show how it is all for performance, no matter the circumstances. The ending scene is her revealing her longing to reveal her love.

The title, is that about how she might be envious of a life where she could stop faking?

[YumeHamasaki]

But then again..what if the pv is ayu playing the role of a lesbian who's in love with another women but doesn't want anyone to know...and that she can perform all she wants but she still can't hide her love while she has the last dance with her secret love...i dunno^^

[visionfactory]

That white dress was ugly and I didn't liked her hair.. but the PV was nice

[emi♡]

Someone did not just compare Ayu to Sylvia Plath

There's nothing really wrong with the PV, except that it's not extraordinary. And so I think, a lot of us are disappointed. All I can say is, i don't care what kinds of periods fans go through, this PV will always fall short for me because the ending is abysmal. It will never be one of her best, because there are others that are better.


And why are there so many double posts in this thread? You guys see the little button next to quote? That lets you multi-quote lol use it, yeah?

[AyUmIXx]

after i've watched the PV over and over again..and compared with the lyric~
i think it's not about homosexual thing...
the dance between Ayu and Midoring.. that's just that Ayu has an imagination where she wishes that she could dance with the person she loves.. so that Midoring represents the male she loves.. Ayu falls in love.. but she can't do anything...

then, about the walking in the beginning, where Ayu seems to be so overacting *even i complained bout that before*, it's now making sense why she has to walk like that..
because on the PV, Ayu is an actress/artist, therefore she needs to act all the way...to show her high-level attitude.. that she's a very famous artist..i mean she tries to be perfect... because that's what ppl demand her to do..

and the backstage scene, where we got to see Ayu with the sad expression, which means, actually deep down in her heart, she's very lonely, she's longing to love, but she just can't because she's an artist...
that's why there are pigeons inside the cages to show that an artist like Ayu doesn't have freedom...

then again GREEN song is all about Ayu's life being a famous artist.. who doesn't have freedom to love, who doesn't have freedom to do what she wants..
but in the end, she finally has decided that form this onward, she will really just show her true-self, so that the person she loves will accept for the way she is... not as a famous artist, but deep down, her true-self~
therefore, in the end of the PV, we can see that Ayu's walking just like usual already.. no more acting...

[Lanz16]

^ You have a good observation on the PV! d(^^,)


I've downloaded the PV last 2 days ago and I watched it by myself.



I like the very 40's era style of PV, it kinda reminds me of "rainy days" PV.


The theme is really good.
The theater performances is superb and the choreography is splendid.

Im kinda disturbed on Ayu's tango dance scene with this woman and a guy dances the same dance as Ayu on a guy too!

Well, since AyUmIXx explained the main point of the PV, I understand the deep meaning of it.


So far, I give GREEN PV a 3.9 / 5 points.

[pommy48]

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

after i've watched the PV over and over again..and compared with the lyric~
i think it's not about homosexual thing...
the dance between Ayu and Midoring.. that's just that Ayu has an imagination where she wishes that she could dance with the person she loves.. so that Midoring represents the male she loves.. Ayu falls in love.. but she can't do anything...

then, about the walking in the beginning, where Ayu seems to be so overacting *even i complained bout that before*, it's now making sense why she has to walk like that..
because on the PV, Ayu is an actress/artist, therefore she needs to act all the way...to show her high-level attitude.. that she's a very famous artist..i mean she tries to be perfect... because that's what ppl demand her to do..

and the backstage scene, where we got to see Ayu with the sad expression, which means, actually deep down in her heart, she's very lonely, she's longing to love, but she just can't because she's an artist...
that's why there are pigeons inside the cages to show that an artist like Ayu doesn't have freedom...

then again GREEN song is all about Ayu's life being a famous artist.. who doesn't have freedom to love, who doesn't have freedom to do what she wants..
but in the end, she finally has decided that form this onward, she will really just show her true-self, so that the person she loves will accept for the way she is... not as a famous artist, but deep down, her true-self~
therefore, in the end of the PV, we can see that Ayu's walking just like usual already.. no more acting...

woah..your interpretation really just opened up my eyes on GREEN...now everything makes sense to me now!
thank you so much!

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

after i've watched the PV over and over again..and compared with the lyric~
i think it's not about homosexual thing...
the dance between Ayu and Midoring.. that's just that Ayu has an imagination where she wishes that she could dance with the person she loves.. so that Midoring represents the male she loves.. Ayu falls in love.. but she can't do anything...

then, about the walking in the beginning, where Ayu seems to be so overacting *even i complained bout that before*, it's now making sense why she has to walk like that..
because on the PV, Ayu is an actress/artist, therefore she needs to act all the way...to show her high-level attitude.. that she's a very famous artist..i mean she tries to be perfect... because that's what ppl demand her to do..

and the backstage scene, where we got to see Ayu with the sad expression, which means, actually deep down in her heart, she's very lonely, she's longing to love, but she just can't because she's an artist...
that's why there are pigeons inside the cages to show that an artist like Ayu doesn't have freedom...

then again GREEN song is all about Ayu's life being a famous artist.. who doesn't have freedom to love, who doesn't have freedom to do what she wants..
but in the end, she finally has decided that form this onward, she will really just show her true-self, so that the person she loves will accept for the way she is... not as a famous artist, but deep down, her true-self~
therefore, in the end of the PV, we can see that Ayu's walking just like usual already.. no more acting...

Nice interpretation.

[freedreamer]

did anyone read the intepretation i translated on page 19...
its pretty much wad AyuMiXx said...that

ARTISTE DONT HAVE FREEDOM...ON STAGE THYE PUT A FRONT and behind stage, they may not be so glamourous and happy like what we see...

its such a easy idea but MOST, if not all, just neglected that....

but then again, its really hard to implant this idea into some people who might just refuse to accept other's ideas..

[bluegie]

^It's not that we dun understand this idea. I've known what she's tryin to express after reading the first few pages or so. What I still dun understand is how she could ACT so bad.

Expressing idea doesn't equal to acting out nicely. She is a diva in that world and she has to express that. I accept. But the way she act is totally not expressing the idea. Rather, she's just exaggerating something without giving me that expression AT ALL.

[AyUmIXx]

Originally Posted by freedreamer

did anyone read the intepretation i translated on page 19...
its pretty much wad AyuMiXx said...that

ARTISTE DONT HAVE FREEDOM...ON STAGE THYE PUT A FRONT and behind stage, they may not be so glamourous and happy like what we see...

its such a easy idea but MOST, if not all, just neglected that....

but then again, its really hard to implant this idea into some people who might just refuse to accept other's ideas..

woahh... nvr thought that we have the same thought about the PV huh?
i didn't read the previous pages though..so i just typed down what i think..
and of course, it's still Ayu who knows everything what's behind on that song