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Old 23rd July 2009, 08:36 AM
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The point is, if its ever completely proven that she was, then yes it would be a big deal. It wouldn't matter if its still going on or not. As I said before, it would raise a lot of issues in terms of preferential treatment and then even the somewhat coup of Max/Ayu vs. Avex's board of directors and President back in 2004 might be brought up as a major issue as well. (the media would probably find some kind of connection between the two events) All would be to the detriment of the amount of respect for Ayu in the eyes of the general public and probably many fans as well. I've already seen several Japanese fans actually express that this was the reason they quit being a Hamasaki fan, even though its never been 100% confirmed. (as I said, this rumor has been prominent in Japan for a looong time)
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hmm, but without these special treatments, ayu might not even have a chance to release any music, so it does sound like a little favourism.
Remember, her NFN sales are horrible, she's not a good singer back then.

EDIT: oh well...i don't want to think about how ayu got her chance, i prefer beliving that Max found her hidden ability and have to send her to New York to groom this young girl.
Yep I considered that point. In the end, you have to start from somewhere, regardless of how it happens. If not, how are musicians born? Even if it were true, it's not like he "held her hand" the whole way. I would think of it as a push in the right direction.
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Old 23rd July 2009, 08:47 AM
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that doesnt look like ayu well i dont see it
well u can't see the face right? but the hair looks like the a song for xx era where she wore a clip in her hair in a music video i can't seem to name. but just by the hairstyle and skin coloring, to me, is ayu. but no face how do I know? lol
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Old 23rd July 2009, 08:50 AM
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^It's basically her exact look for the Whatever tv promotions. Which was released only a few weeks after her debut album, so it fits within the timeline of this photo supposedly coming from a celebration party for her first albums success.
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I feel as though it's one of those "Hey, we're not really kissing, but it looks like we are" photos that some people take when they're at parties, haha. I wonder who leaked the photograph though. They must not be doing well in this economy or something.. oi.
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Old 23rd July 2009, 09:01 AM
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^It had to have been either an employee of Avex or Friday. Friday never actually published this article, and I think as long as they don't, the damage to Ayu will be pretty minimal.(if anything, cause this isn't exactly 'new') If Friday does one day actually publish everything they supposedly have, then expect a hailstorm.

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^i wonder who's the idiot who leak this photo...i just wish that this fellow doesn't have any more pics like this in hand, i really don't want them to be leak....(>_<) Although it looks like they might not be kissing, but people will still assume, especially people who are not happy with ayu. noooo.....(T_T)
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Prominent in Japan for some time now (where is the proof?)? Wow, is Ayu really that popular that the general public is still talking about what she might've done 10 years ago? Funny how until now people haven't mentioned it

Well, I guess some simply live for making a big deal out of everything that's negative when it comes to Ayu. But don't worry, this will affect her as much as the ViVi book promo incident did. If things like this actually had an affect on her career I think she'd be long gone by now.
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11 years ago, Matsuura not only offered young Hamasaki a record deal, he also offered his mouth and tongue to the newborn star.
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@njanjayrp: No, but it doesn't matter because that's what the public in Japan will think, or imply.

Sunshine Slayer is very right. It is a really big deal, and the rumor isn't exactly a small one. There is some evidence for it, and it's not entirely preposterous, like the rumors she has stds or something.

@to whoever said that in the West sleeping with your boss isn't a big deal: That's not true at all. It is a big deal here, as I believe it is anywhere. I mean, what if it got out that say, Simon Cowell was sleeping with the contestant who won American Idol. I would imagine that would not look very good for either of them.

Especially if say, Simon defended the contestant and perhaps threatened to leave or something if she was voted off.

It's all very interesting. Let's hope there are no more pictures.
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^i see, coz i was reading the previous posts in the thread, and most of them seem to think that it's not a big deal, that's why i thought it won't be that much of an issue compare to Japan.
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This is kinda stupid... I guess they wanna tarnish her reputation just like what they did to MJ....

They wanna give the impression that her rise to fame is THROUGH seducing Max... Hence, they use a photo 11 years ago which couldn't even prove anything... This is stupid, I bet they are searching furiously for some bed photos which they cannt find... LOL
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While it would be a big deal.. I kind of don't see their relationship as getting "intimate" like that. Seems like Max is just kind of the father she never had, perhaps? I dunno.
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@njanjayrp: No, but it doesn't matter because that's what the public in Japan will think, or imply.

Sunshine Slayer is very right. It is a really big deal, and the rumor isn't exactly a small one. There is some evidence for it, and it's not entirely preposterous, like the rumors she has stds or something.

@to whoever said that in the West sleeping with your boss isn't a big deal: That's not true at all. It is a big deal here, as I believe it is anywhere. I mean, what if it got out that say, Simon Cowell was sleeping with the contestant who won American Idol. I would imagine that would not look very good for either of them.

Especially if say, Simon defended the contestant and perhaps threatened to leave or something if she was voted off.

It's all very interesting. Let's hope there are no more pictures.
I only said there was no real proof that the general public in Japan is even discussing this right now. And I am not going to take what SunshineSlayer said for granted. For all we know she was prolly kissing him on his cheek in that photo as his mouth would have to be on the very far right + even if she french kissed him, they might've been dead drunk. Considering none of us knows what actually happened there is no need to judge her nor her career, but then again some people simply can't wait for something like this to happen, so they could poop all over Ayu's head.
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Old 23rd July 2009, 09:44 AM
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It's kind of sad how a lot of fans fell out of love for Ayu based on assumptions.. oi. The surgery things, these scandals, etc. etc... no one really knows the truth, but based on the gossip and so on, people accept it as such when really, it's just speculation.
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It's kind of sad how a lot of fans fell out of love for Ayu based on assumptions.. oi. The surgery things, these scandals, etc. etc... no one really knows the truth, but based on the gossip and so on, people accept it as such when really, it's just speculation.
hahaha, That's exactly what happened to MJ....
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Well, I'd have to say that overseas fans seem to be a lot more optimistic, but I guess with all the people saying: "Hey, did you know that I heard that she.." in Japan.. it makes sense that people would be like that. A lot of the Koreans I know seem to somehow ~know~ that she's 'plastic' even though they don't really even know who she is. I guess her image just screams "PERFECTION" and that's how people rationalize it in their heads. I just chalk it up to editing and a superb makeup team, haha.
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so they could poop all over Ayu's head.
LOL

anyways, if she was drunk, she might not even remember what she did! "mistakes can spiral in the night"

Ayu - "haha..another tabloid.."
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"heyyy i remember that party as a celebration of my SUCCESS"
*looks at pic*
"omg...did i really do that???"
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