Largest arena Performance and filming during tours...

[immel]

Originally Posted by Dustie

BTW, do other J-pop artists use the name "Arena Tour"?...

Do a quick search on YesAsia and you'll have your answer .

Maybe 17000 was the record number of ppl attending an Arena Tour performance?

Maybe, I need to do a research, because if she would have filled up Tokyo Dome with 50,000 people I think I'm to faint... haha, that's just sick, but still very possible.

[truehappiness]

Here's your answer people~

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929
just checked the saitama website: http://www.saitama-arena.co.jp/e/ (under facility info)
i guess it depends if she used the 'stadium' part of saitama or the 'main arena' part of saitama. it's either ~30k or 16k. but i think considering how all her other concerts are around btwn 10-20k (ie: osaka, yoyogi, nagoya, fukuoka, hiroshima etc.) maybe she did the same for saitama


I think it means that it can go anywhere between 16k and 30k - not just one or the other. It was not the 37k one but it was more than 16k. And Saitama is bigger than all of those arenas you mentioned. I remember her saying specifically on stage that there were 17,000 people there on the second night of the concert and that it was her record for largest audience at an arena tour

[immel]

largest audience at an arena tour

Yep, thanks, I remembered correctly about it being said by Sunshine .

Still wondering how many she actually performed infront of at Tokyo Dome though, it looks completely wicked in the DVD with the amount of people.

[ayu_fan929]

Didn't Namie do a Dome Tour as well?

Originally Posted by andre2907

Tokyo Dome is outdoor and indoor. For concerts they close the celling (this affect the sound but they have to do this because of the neighborhood). And Tokyo Dome capacity is a little less than 50.000. The X number was probably lots of concerts (not only one).

I didn't quite get your last sentence, but Tokyo Dome's max capacity is 55,000. http://www.tokyo-dome.co.jp/e/dome/architectural.htm

And I never knew the roof could open. From the pictures, it looks like the roof is permanently shut. They only say it's an 'air-supported roof'. Is it even possible for it to be retractable?

Originally Posted by Dustie

I don't think there is any real relation between the "types" of places she performs and names of the tours. After all, she had "Concert Tour 2000" which was held at the same places, but they didn't call it "Arena" yet. It was derived from the domes "era" probably. Plus, not all of the places are called "Arenas" -- Yoyogi for example is a stadium, yet, she didn't held "Stadium Tour" performance in it, she helds "Arena Tour" performances there...

And I think Dome Tour was 6 domes... I wonder why they didn't do another dome tour. Could it be she so doesn't want to bring back the memories from that time (ear loss danger)?...

BTW, the Tokyo Dome is freakin' biiig! I was stunned when I first saw Dome Tour CMs. I couldn't believe how big this thing is....

The 2001 Dome Tour had 8 shows, 4 domes. Now there are 5 big domes in Japan.

I think there is a relation between the ARENA tour and where they hold the venues. I think they imply the meaning of ARENA with the capacity of the venue. i.e. Arena under 20,000; Stadium/Open Air min. 25,000 and outdoors and Domes min. 40,000 indoors. (Something like that)

And yeah, I think she doesn't do large indoor venues cos of the ear/the echo of the venue. She can sell out like 300,000 tickets. If she went back to the Dome Tour she wouldn't have to be touring for like 4 months. She could do like 10 shows and it would be done.

BTW, do other J-pop artists use the name "Arena Tour"?...

I know BoA (Arena) and Mr. Children (Dome) do. But I've seen others like Mika just do "XXXXX Tour 2005".

[truehappiness]

Sometimes it's the album's name.. Like Ai~

LOVE COOK TOUR 2006~ X3

[norain]

Poor ayumi, can't sell out domes anymore...she needs to pull a utada, 'cause utada's tour has sold out...

On the other hand, maybe she'll make a final dome tour called: FAREWELL...muhahaha sad....

anyway, 17,000? That's a bit small when I think about it, compared to 55,000...erm...

[ayu_fan929]

^if she can sell out 300,000 for 30 ARENA shows then she can sell out 6 DOME shows. and Hikki's tour is ARENA also.

[truehappiness]

Hikki's concert has a bunch less shows than Ayu ..

22 shows~ compared to Ayu's 30+ every year or so~

[Dustie]

^if she can sell out 300,000 for 30 ARENA shows then she can sell out 6 DOME shows. and Hikki's tour is ARENA also.

That's not sure. There's 5 domes around Japan, which means that big percentage of people who would normally go to a big arena in their city would have to travel to the cities where the domes are. That is somewhat a struggle and that lowers the chances that exactly the same amout of people would show up as for Arena Tours (which are easier to attend).

And I think it's just UTADA UNITED 2006 TOUR, not Arena Tour...

[ayu_fan929]

^True, but the bottom line is she can still sell out a dome. The problem is whether it's feasible for her to do.

I know that Hikki's tour doesn't have the word 'arena' in it, but it (venues) = to Ayu's arena venues.

[Qt Mashi]

i wonder how many people where in Stadium Tour~ it looked awesome! so many ppl!

[Dustie]

Yeah, that's true. It looked like massive amounts, at least compareable to the Domes. Those concerts were another thing that stunned me.

[andre2907]

Tokyo is the most-populated town in the world. It isn't THAT difficult to sell-out a concert for 45.000 (that's the capacity for concerts), even Hitomi Yaida did it.

And I don't think Ayu can fill a Dome. I mean, someone can do 20 sold-out shows in a place for 5.000 but this doesn't mean he can sell-out a place for 100.000 persons. Only artists like SMAP, Kinki Kids, KAT-TUN, Mr. Children and B'Z can sell-out a Dome concert this year...

(And yes, it can be retractable)

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by immel

Yep, thanks, I remembered correctly about it being said by Sunshine .

Still wondering how many she actually performed infront of at Tokyo Dome though, it looks completely wicked in the DVD with the amount of people.

It would have been at least 30,000. Dome's are different from Arenas though, that's why Ayu didn't count her attendance at the Dome tour as her highest at an Arena.

Originally Posted by Dustie

I don't think there is any real relation between the "types" of places she performs and names of the tours. After all, she had "Concert Tour 2000" which was held at the same places, but they didn't call it "Arena" yet. It was derived from the domes "era" probably. Plus, not all of the places are called "Arenas" -- Yoyogi for example is a stadium, yet, she didn't held "Stadium Tour" performance in it, she helds "Arena Tour" performances there...

Yep, there is definitely a correlation. Stadiums are outdoors. Arenas are indoors but smaller than Domes. Yoyogi Stadium is the only exception in Japan that I know of. It really is an arena, not a stadium. The reason, as I understand it, that it has the name "Stadium" is that it is very old. Large, indoor Arena's were not common place and it used to be everything was held outdoors in Stadiums. As far as I know, Yoyogi was the first indoor arena built in Japan for sporting events and concerts - but since all of those kinds of venues were called Stadiums at the time, it got tacked with that name instead of the more appropriate "Arena."

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by andre2907

Tokyo is the most-populated town in the world. It isn't THAT difficult to sell-out a concert for 45.000 (that's the capacity for concerts), even Hitomi Yaida did it.

And I don't think Ayu can fill a Dome. I mean, someone can do 20 sold-out shows in a place for 5.000 but this doesn't mean he can sell-out a place for 100.000 persons. Only artists like SMAP, Kinki Kids, KAT-TUN, Mr. Children and B'Z can sell-out a Dome concert this year...

(And yes, it can be retractable)

She HAS though.. right? But as of now, maybe not..

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

She HAS though.. right? But as of now, maybe not..

I definitely think she can still sell out a Dome for at least a couple of dates still. Maybe not a whole tour, but still a few dates. Especially if she made it a Greatest Hits tour or something. People would come from across Japan to see it if that is going to be their only opportunity to see Ayu live that year. I mean take just the surrounding areas of Tokyo alone where she holds concerts - Saitama(17,000 each night(2)), Yokohama(at least 10,000 each night(2)), Yoyogi(12,000 on each night(something like 5 nights)). Assuming that only a small percentage of people actually go to the concerts in all 3 cities and on multiple dates, that is way more than enough to hold a Dome concert right there. I really think the main reason she isn't anymore is because of her ear.

Even if an artists record sales are going down, if they are known for their live shows, it often does not effect their ticket sales. Look at several 80s artists such as Matsuda Seiko, whose records barely sell now in comparison to her glory days, yet she has no problem whatsoever selling out her yearly arena tours at the same venues Ayu plays at.

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by andre2907

Tokyo is the most-populated town in the world. It isn't THAT difficult to sell-out a concert for 45.000 (that's the capacity for concerts), even Hitomi Yaida did it.

And I don't think Ayu can fill a Dome. I mean, someone can do 20 sold-out shows in a place for 5.000 but this doesn't mean he can sell-out a place for 100.000 persons. Only artists like SMAP, Kinki Kids, KAT-TUN, Mr. Children and B'Z can sell-out a Dome concert this year...

(And yes, it can be retractable)

Umm, isn't the max capacity for concerts/baseball games the same, 55,000?
And can you show me pix of the retractable roof? I'm still fascinated at this cos I read it was supported by air...

I think she can sell out a specific domes, like Tokyo/Osaka easily. I would give a 'maybe' to Nagoya and Fukuoka; and a 'most likely not' to Sapporo.

[Dustie]

When it comes to her last ever live tour, she surely can go for a Dome one with no hesitation, I'm sure people from all over the country would go to see her...

[andre2907]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

Umm, isn't the max capacity for concerts/baseball games the same, 55,000?
And can you show me pix of the retractable roof? I'm still fascinated at this cos I read it was supported by air...

I think she can sell out a specific domes, like Tokyo/Osaka easily. I would give a 'maybe' to Nagoya and Fukuoka; and a 'most likely not' to Sapporo.

Roofs CAN be retractable, but Tokyo Dome roof isn't. Some domes around Japan do have retractable roofs, but I'm not sure which one of them?

And no, the capacity ISN'T the same. I'm sure about that because SMAP didn't had 55.000 people at their concerts and they sell-out the dome in a few minute and Southern All Stars didn't had either. So, no, the capacity isn't the same.

And by the way, Sapporo Dome is much smaller than the other domes.

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by andre2907

And no, the capacity ISN'T the same. I'm sure about that because SMAP didn't had 55.000 people at their concerts and they sell-out the dome in a few minute and Southern All Stars didn't had either. So, no, the capacity isn't the same.

And by the way, Sapporo Dome is much smaller than the other domes.

Well I know that KAT-TUN had 55,000 at their's cos I saw a news report about it and it had that number displayed as like those subtitle things.

I thought Nagoya was the smallest? Anyways, the reason why I said Sapporo as 'most likely not' was cos there arn't that many people in Hokkaido. I think their pop. is something like 5 million; thats less than the pop. of Nagoya+suburbs.

Ok, I checked some sites, and here's the max capacity:
Tokyo: 55,000
Osaka: 48,000
Fukuoka: 48,000
Sapporo: 42,122
Nagoya: 40,500

sorce: http://www.worldstadiums.com