Sunset PV Thoughts

[truehappiness]

I feel that people view Ayu's past through Swarovsky-encrusted glasses. You can't SEE ANYTHING.

[(miss)understood]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I feel that people view Ayu's past through Swarovsky-encrusted glasses. You can't SEE ANYTHING.

lol to whom are you speaking

[Andrenekoi]

I thought Pride was beautifully done, I think Beautiful Fighters, although very cheesy, had a very clear and tangible meaning,
i could list all the PVs from then on
but
Just because these are new does not discount them as good PVs, what makes them poorly done?

IMO, poorly done would be a PV like Daybreak
Nothing happened at all in that video and it was prior to B&D

I think a lot of you are looking for hidden meanings and when there isn't any, you discount her music videos as poorly done

However on my part, I do think Sunset was a disappointment. Sunrise was nice but Sunset was too much like it.

^This...

There are a lot of old videos from her I find TERRIBLE and people here praise like the best invention since sliced bread...

The ayu videos I find bad are Depend on You, Whatever, To be, boys & girls, Fly High, Surreal, Far way-Vogue-Seasons, M, Dearest, Daybreak, Free & Easy, Voyage, Real Me, Hanabi episode II, No way to say, humming 7/4, Born to be, decision, (don't) leave me alone, Next Level... imo all those are or look cheap, or are boring, or have a very stupid "meaning" or all the 3 things together... and a lot of them are praised around here as "beautiful", "artistic", "deep" or whatever...

I don't wanna sound a pain in the ass, but it's getting annoying to see people bashing a lot of videos I like everytime @_______________________@ And saying like it is a proven fact that they are bad or something

[Yumsushi]

You know what, good imagery can do alot of a song, but its not everything. In my case, decision is my absolute favourite Ayu song and the incredibly boring PV didn't shake my opinion one bit. And I can think of a lot of songs I love that have terrible Videos. For many people the issue with Sunset seems to be the dancers and the lack of anything happening. Because Sunrise and Sunset are so similar in melody, the comparisons are inevitable.

[truehappiness]

I'm not really talking to anyone in particular.

Seriously.

[(miss)understood]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I'm not really talking to anyone in particular.

Seriously.

lol o ok hai 2 u

Originally Posted by Ayu_desu

like GREEN, Together When... etc

i agree on those 2

I mean

if the point of Green wasnt about being a homo then I think the PV was really off the wall and weird and had no meaning at all

and Together When, IIRC, didnt it steal some marionette ideas?
or the other way around

either way,
it was disconnected and choppy, i mean the cab driver swearing at the beginning does not fit with ayus cute puppy crying face


so, i see what you mean

[(miss)understood]

^ wordup

[Ayumiko]

I agree the quality of the pvs from b&d and on fell...with only a few that I think are excellent imo...1 love, jewel, momentum, and marionette...the only 4 that I truly love everything about it.

[Aisha_Angel]

I think what everyone's getting at is the quality of the single PVs. Most of the time Ayu's album exclusive PVs are good with the exception of Bold & Delicious ~another story~ (w/e it was called...) and Curtain Call for me. The storylines no longer make any sense and the costumes/outfits for these PVs just keep getting worse and worse. And while I know this is a little off-topic I'm just gonna say it anyway---a song called GREEN deserves a frickin' GREEN dress, and if the PV is gonna hint at lesbianism Ayu should have french kissed the hell out of Midoring. Well, maybe not french, but they should have done something steamy to make the video memorable. I don't want Ayu to be trashy, but she needed that edge.

If Koda Kumi can practically screw an inanimate object in her dance videos, why can't Ayu kiss a girl and like it?

[NintendoHTF1242]

Originally Posted by Aisha_Angel

If Koda Kumi can practically screw an inanimate object in her dance videos, why can't Ayu kiss a girl and like it?

I lol'd hard

[truehappiness]

...or some people just view Ayu's present that way.

I don't think that's how things are for people who like her present material.. Why can't someone just be happy with what's being released now? I think it's more offensive to Ayu to be so absorbed with her past works than to live in the now. I feel as though the best Ayu is Ayu now because she's loving the work that she's doing most at this moment. Why dwell on the fact that X was better than Y when X came out years ago when she was different? This is Ayu now, and we have to live with her now. Not saying that she's gone down in quality (visually, maybe.. musically.. not really.), but it seems like some people continue to have this sort of weird ~wow 1998-2003 was AMAZING. 2004-2009 can go suck a lemon!~ mentality that just baffles me. Had she released any of these tracks before, I feel like they'd have been just as big. Too much pedestal-placing on the Ayu-that-was and too much negating of the Ayu-that-is..

But hey, we all have different viewpoints.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I don't think that's how things are for people who like her present material.. Why can't someone just be happy with what's being released now? I think it's more offensive to Ayu to be so absorbed with her past works than to live in the now. I feel as though the best Ayu is Ayu now because she's loving the work that she's doing most at this moment. Why dwell on the fact that X was better than Y when X came out years ago when she was different? This is Ayu now, and we have to live with her now. Not saying that she's gone down in quality (visually, maybe.. musically.. not really.), but it seems like some people continue to have this sort of weird ~wow 1998-2003 was AMAZING. 2004-2009 can go suck a lemon!~ mentality that just baffles me. Had she released any of these tracks before, I feel like they'd have been just as big. Too much pedestal-placing on the Ayu-that-was and too much negating of the Ayu-that-is..

But hey, we all have different viewpoints.

It's interesting, a while ago I watched an interview with Marilyn Manson where he talked about fans having to evolve with the artist as they evolve.

But you know what, some people don't want or need to evolve. Some people are perfectly happy where they are, and in that case, for those who only love the old Ayu, maybe they need to move on. I know I've thought about it quite a lot.

Personally, I really miss a lot of the things I used to feel in her music, like for example, originality, innovation, excellence, and the pride I felt she displayed in herself, and her productions.

Now, a lot of those things are near gone for me. While I'm very happy and amazed that she continues to have so much passion in her music and everything she does, I'm not going to praise her every move or have a positive opinion on everything she puts out just because of it.

In my opinion, which doesn't really matter at all, she needs to step back and reevaluate what she's doing and where she wants to head with her music.

In any case, maybe her peak has just passed...I'm just sad that her peak in quality had to pass as well.

And maybe you guys don't agree with that...but...to be seriously honest, it's much less of a personal opinion than anything else in this post.



So anyway...Sunset was good I thought, for "present" Ayu anyway

I think it's really interesting how much cutting out the stupid male dancers and showing more of the fans does for a video.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I don't think that's how things are for people who like her present material.. Why can't someone just be happy with what's being released now?

But along the same lines, why can't people be disappointed with what she has been doing lately? And then also not be told to go listen to other artists instead. lol I listen to plenty of other artists in addition to Ayu already anyways. It doesn't make sense to only support one point of view and not the other. Especially when even you yourself have admitted that in some areas her quality seems to have sunk. I don't know why people should go around accepting diminished quality of work when we know that she is capable of better. That's what I would consider viewing something through rose colored glasses - when you know its not as good but you still continue to praise it as great anyways.

[Andrenekoi]

IMO the only really BAD video Ayu has is Born to be... because of the eye-killing lights... The other ones may not be loved by everyone, but I can't see any technical problem about them...

and I think it's stupid to overrate ayu's past or present... people can like some period more than other, cuz she changed a lot those years, or even dislike her earlier works or her recent works, but she has done good things and bad things all the way... not everything was perfect, not everything was crap... My 2 favorite ayu songs are endless sorrow and Mirrorcle World for example and two of my most hated are It was... and Fly High...

What is annoying is to say that she is better now or that she went downhill as it was a fact, and not a preference...

[truehappiness]

I just like everything, just.. I think the present Ayu is something I listen to / watch more because I hear / saw / whatever so much of the 1998-2002 Ayu that I don't really need to listen to it anymore, haha.

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

^ then respect other's opinions too.

you're forcing YOUR opinion on us.

We DO have the right to complain. WE make her who she is, and without fans, she's nobody. THAT'S exactly why we can't just "like it" and move on:
We have expectations.

[AyuGAME]

really simple and clean PV...
i think its suit the song characteristic...just simple and clean too...
there is some weird transition but overall i like the pv...

[Andrenekoi]

@emiko:
I think that if someone prefer old Ayu and think that present Ayu is not as good, keep with old ayu and ignore her newer releases... If you don't like an album, it's ok, it's just an album... but if you don't liked anything since 2003, 2004, maybe you should listen to other singer (in Ayu's case, cuz she released 5 albums since @_@).

I agree with MM, the fanbase needs to envolve together with the artist, but I agree with you, some people are totally happy with some era... But the singer is not part of his/her fanbase, he/she won't always like stuff that their fans like (there are a lot of Madonna haters around here for example), and will not always being interested on moving their art on the same direction their fanbase would like to

Now, everyone will always have an favorite moment on a singer career... IMO Ayu was at her best on (miss)understood era... but I'm not expecting another favorite album from her, so, I can just enjoy her newer work or predent she didn't released anything :B if she releases something that IMO is better than (m)u, I will be glad, if she doesn't, well, I still have (m)u ^^

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

OMGZ itz liek pure luveh!!!111!!!

itz su intrikaet.... n da denzers r kool <333

kawaii desu ayu chan!!!1!!!111




happy now? -_-

[NintendoHTF1242]

Originally Posted by Nippon

OMGZ itz liek pure luveh!!!111!!!

itz su intrikaet.... n da denzers r kool <333

kawaii desu ayu chan!!!1!!!111




happy now? -_-

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