Ayu Twitter/Weibo Discussion #31

[Andrenekoi]

The photobook's name is "Super Love"... This makes me think all of them are couples, and IMO this adds one more layer of "fucked up":

If the boys posing together are couples, Leslie just outed them without they wanting it.
If the boys posing together weren't couples, now people think they are...

Either option annoys me.

[pimenta]

^ Oh, I hadn't realized that (I didn't pay attention to the tittle of the photobook)... If that's the case, than it gets even worse

Originally Posted by tasking

Regardless of who thought the Super Mannie book was a good idea or wasn't, you have to wonder if Leslie was lying about that too. I mean, did he tell Mannie it was going to be private, for Ayu's eyes only like he told the dancers and then go back on his word then also? If so, I bet it was pretty easy for Leslie to convince Ayu otherwise and paint Mannie as the douchebag. I mean, that's what most of us thought, right? He didn't tweet the inside of Mannie's book or make a video, but later we did find it being sold. That's a pretty damn big issue, if you ask me. Ayu must be going crazy right now.

But since the first time they mentioned Mannie's photobook they already stated it was going to be for sale... I don't know what actually was happening, but I feel like Mannie always knew it was going to be for sale (and I actually feel like he wanted to be that way, he's a model and he needs publicity to keep his job going, even if it was a gift for Ayu). Besides, I'm sure Mannie and Ayu did talk about that issue, so if he was deceived by Leslie he would probably have told Ayu and I don't know why she wouldn't believe in him if that was the case...
But, oh well, what do I know? You could be totally right, and if that's the case then this whole Leslie issue is even worse then it seems, because he would be deceiving Ayu for much longer. But I still think that Mannie wanted his photobook to be like that though (but of course he also didn't want it to ruin his marriage I believe).
I agree with you, though, that Ayu must be going crazy right now about this whole issue. I wonder if she's thinking about the Mannie photobook and associating with this new happenings or not...

[njanjayrp]

The pictures were bound to leak online sooner or later. It's like people shooting private porn videos, it eventually leaks no matter who they are...

[BlackSilence]

^interesting tho that some stuff NEVER leaks (aka some weding photos of celebrities) because they were done by friends and for only few pairs of eyes, not the whole nation/world to see.

Originally Posted by pommy48

Haha, Leslie totally overestimated how much ayu liked him

Seriously...I wonder if he leaked SUPER MANNIE for his own benefit, or else no one would he shot Ayumi Hamasaki's husband

i always got this feeling of her being very polite with him while he was literally kissing her ass lol she probably just tried to be kind of professional on the personal, more friendly level. i mean it's not like she had much of a choice if it wasn't for her own stuff.

as for the title i thought it was rather strange ....

and honestly the only thing that was good from his recent works with Ayu was FIVE photobook and MAYBE that WWD shot..

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

The photobook's name is "Super Love"... This makes me think all of them are couples, and IMO this adds one more layer of "fucked up":

If the boys posing together are couples, Leslie just outed them without they wanting it.
If the boys posing together weren't couples, now people think they are...

Either option annoys me.

They are couples, friends, colleagues, etc. He mentions that it's not all couples in his posts about it from a few months ago.

[SKYia]

I seriously think he overuses the word 'super', it's usually the first english word kids know in my country (side by side with 'ok' and 'headshot') and it's kind of lame to see him adding it everywhere, and with the Super Love he really does suggest too much.

I was surprised about Ayu's shock at first especially since she posed naked with her dancers herself in the AT13 pamphlet. Besides, at first I thought it was Peco who leaked the photos because she was the first one to share the YT making of movie on FB but them I saw it was actually Leslie's YT account, not hers.

[sugarbasil]

Originally Posted by Neko★munication

Either way, I think the 'gift' was kind of in poor taste, haha. Whether it was Leslie's or her troupe's idea, it just seems like a weird choice when it's public knowledge that Ayu didn't react well the last time she was handed a book of her loved ones in the nude.

This is what gets me the most. Of all the things her team could have done or gotten for her, they chose this. Blows my mind.

And this is such a stereotypical American thing to say, but I kind of hope Avex sues his ass. I don't know how the laws are in Japan, but here, Leslie's ass would get handed to him in court.

Seriously, what an ass, though.

Ass.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by SKYia

I seriously think he overuses the word 'super', it's usually the first english word kids know in my country (side by side with 'ok' and 'headshot') and it's kind of lame to see him adding it everywhere, and with the Super Love he really does suggest too much.

Japanese people do that with english words though.


I also find the photobook thing weird, but Japan also has a weird thing about photobooks.

Spammed all over the damn place.

Even my favorite model has like one a year. At least.

So it might just be something we don't understand the same way.

[tasking]

Leslie isn't Japanese though.... but I guess he mostly caters to that market?

[Mirrorcle Monster]

Originally Posted by Zeke.

Where can we hear the new video on youtube of the mixing?

This please?

[EnergizE]

Not sure you will get the video this time...

On the last messages (before the Leslie Kee drama), it was clearly written "The pictures are provided only to you all at Team AYU." so I guess it is the same for the video...

[ayumisrael]

Yeah, things from Team ayu's diary are forbbiden being posted anywhere, unless they get publicated somewhere else by official means and then can be shared.

[Ayu-me]

Anyone know who the guy in the video is? He's not Japanese, Ayu spoke English with him and explained the meaning of the Japanese word "kakkoii", and he said that he loves it every time he works with her.
The video itself doesn't really have anything new song-wise, it sounds almost identical to the previous one except for the finishing beats maybe, so non-TA people aren't really missing out on much except for Ayu speaking English (and the pong-game that was shown on a screen, perhaps as a screensaver, haha).

[mi|kshake]

But, after Super Mannie, how were her dancers fooled?

Yes, I was wondering what they were expecting too?

Either way, I think the 'gift' was kind of in poor taste, haha. Whether it was Leslie's or her troupe's idea, it just seems like a weird choice when it's public knowledge that Ayu didn't react well the last time she was handed a book of her loved ones in the nude.

Also, I am a bit confused as to why this was a "gift" to Ayumi? I personally wouldn't want any naked pictures of my friends or work colleagues. That would be weird!

The pictures were bound to leak online sooner or later. It's like people shooting private porn videos, it eventually leaks no matter who they are...

I agree. When someone is filming or taking photos of you using their own equipment, IMO it's their property sadly. I'm always surprised that celebs are shocked when their tapes leak online...what were they expecting?

Same with Facebook if my friends, or say a nightclub I'm in, is taking pictures of me, I'm full expecting them to appear on Facebook the next day. The photos are on their camera after all. (In the nightclub's case they picture will be uploaded in order to promote their club. Not much I can do about it and I'm happy for the photo to appear as I agreed, however drunkenly, to have it taken...does that make sense?)

Anyway, will be interesting to see how this whole "drama" progresses.

[waterballoon]

putting myself in Ayu's shoes, I'm naturally angry at such a progression regarding the situation.

I don't believe or think she's capable of "fishing" this one out. Leslie is one sick (and bad) photographer.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Well he did f'd up progress' pv in every way possible. Maybe namie is paying him to ruin ayu's career

[Mirrorcle Monster]

Oh my god, this "exclusive super fan clubs" ruin the whole fan experience, which would be seeing the video all together and sharing our thoughts and feelings. Instead, only a bunch of rich (or japanese) fans who can afford it (or can get any benefit from it) can access to the content. I dont know, but I think it establishes differences between fans, which should not happen. And some of you guys will say "you can become a member if you want", but be realistic, there are almost no beneffits for international (not rich) fans.

[waterballoon]

Originally Posted by Mirrorcle Monster

Oh my god, this "exclusive super fan clubs" ruin the whole fan experience, which would be seeing the video all together and sharing our thoughts and feelings. Instead, only a bunch of rich (or japanese) fans who can afford it (or can get any benefit from it) can access to the content. I dont know, but I think it establishes differences between fans, which should not happen. And some of you guys will say "you can become a member if you want", but be realistic, there are almost no beneffits for international (not rich) fans.

well...

Ayu's gotta get her $$$ from somewhere

[kinix]

Originally Posted by mi|kshake

I agree. When someone is filming or taking photos of you using their own equipment, IMO it's their property sadly. I'm always surprised that celebs are shocked when their tapes leak online...what were they expecting?

Same with Facebook if my friends, or say a nightclub I'm in, is taking pictures of me, I'm full expecting them to appear on Facebook the next day. The photos are on their camera after all. (In the nightclub's case they picture will be uploaded in order to promote their club. Not much I can do about it and I'm happy for the photo to appear as I agreed, however drunkenly, to have it taken...does that make sense?)

Anyway, will be interesting to see how this whole "drama" progresses.

It matters when the person is a professional photographer and he said that it'll only be a private shooting and those photos will not be shared publicly. Which part of this do you guys didn't get? 'TRUST', 'PROFESSIONALISM', 'ETHICS' get it? Leslie told them that it's a surprise for ayu's 15th anniversary. But he used their photos and published it for his own 15th anniversary book for SALE. If you still can't get into the situation, just imagine that you shared a secret with somebody and he/she promised to kept it a secret. But he/she obviously didn't. Now how would you feel? If you still think that it isn't a big deal, you obviously have some serious problem here.

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

The pictures were bound to leak online sooner or later. It's like people shooting private porn videos, it eventually leaks no matter who they are...

I haven seen the contents for AYUREADY special boxset which was specially made for ayu yet. Unless you've seen it, please let us know.

[Mai82Go]

Team Ayu exists since the beginning, and paying fans have to have some goodies non-paying fans don't have, or else it doesn't make sense. Years ago, probably people didn't care because nobody knew what they were missing, and to be honest, yes, you don't miss much. It's really not worth getting that worked up about short little clips about Ayu sitting in a studio and listening to her recordings.

I think none of this would've been a "scandal" if fans wouldn't have reacted badly to it and obviously complained to avex about it. It all really seems to be a bit ridiculous if you think about it. It is easy to blame everything on Leslie Kee, but I also think a lot is not being said here - by avex, the dancers and of course, Ayu herself.