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Old 12th April 2010, 09:44 AM
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Do you think ayu composes less because of her hearing?

i was thinking of this.. she composed less as CREA ever since her hearing has gotten worse.. how much do you think her hearing has affected her? i dont think her vocals are affected at all, she still is able to sing every note correctly.
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Old 12th April 2010, 09:52 AM
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i think that is a logical idea! but perhaps she's also run out of inspiration or just become lazier... she's never been formally trained in music theory so it must have been tough for her to compose... though some of her greatest work was self-composed :/ I really miss Ayu's compositions! I love your signature picture and tagline haha... I think you know what they're looking at
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Old 12th April 2010, 09:57 AM
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yes i noticed shes been relying more on good songs by other people rather than making her own music.. i think thats good, but it depends a lot on her luck.. CREA compositions are consistently good! a lot of her great songs are her own.

and yes.. i know what theyre looking at too! im surprised that ayu so bravely put such a scene in the video!
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Old 12th April 2010, 10:28 AM
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I don't think so cos writing & composing are 2 different things altogether

it's tough for someone who doesn't have a music background to compose their own works & it's not easy doing that & let alone writing lyrics for a song

She also like what people said , rather let her staff to do so instead of her doing that while she just focus on writing her material
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Old 12th April 2010, 01:30 PM
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Ayu didn't have a music background so it must be hard for her..
And your theory is quite true somehow
A lot of the bests songs are CREA composed though
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Old 12th April 2010, 01:34 PM
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I read somewhere here that Ayu composes less because she thinks she's not professional enough to do composing that's why she's letting other people compose. I'm not sure but I remember reading that somewhere in AHS
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Old 15th April 2010, 04:08 AM
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I read somewhere here that Ayu composes less because she thinks she's not professional enough to do composing that's why she's letting other people compose. I'm not sure but I remember reading that somewhere in AHS
That would make sense...But goodness! All of CREA's songs are so distinct and not at all in a bad way! I think Ayu is plenty professional enough to compose her own material!! I found her works to be quite unique in comparison to the stuff composed by others .


And about her hearing...it sounds logical, but as I've basically said, I think she just plain doesn't want to. But who knows? Maybe it's a mix of both.
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Old 12th April 2010, 01:48 PM
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really subjectif question XD but i dont think its cos of her hearing though~

maybe cos she dont feel like to compose any of new song,who knows maybe one day when she wakes up and then tada..i got this music playing in my head and yeah we'll get something new form CREA ~wink~

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Old 12th April 2010, 01:55 PM
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I don't think it has anything to do with her hearing. You don't really need 2 ears to compose on a keyboard IMO. I read she wasn't inspired to compose something and that she doesn't feel obliged to do so...
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Old 12th April 2010, 02:06 PM
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maybe the new song [Moon] is compose by her...
kinda feel the vibe of it...
nah..but maybe just my imagination...
because the song is soooo good...

by the way...from what i know...ayu need to choose thousand of sample song..to pick one song that she want to sing...i think that's hard job too...so i think ayu is not lazy...but i think she is super busy to sit and find inspiration to compose a song...
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Old 12th April 2010, 02:35 PM
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well none of her CREA songs have ever done badly maybe her next million selling album will be one born from 100% ayu inspiration and composition (like I am... and RAINBOW)
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Old 12th April 2010, 03:06 PM
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I think she did that most when she just couldn't find something someone else created that fit her vision enough. I think since that time, more and more people have been devoted to giving her compositions. A while back she mentioned it was hectic looking for the right melody for a song she had in mind, and that there were loads of choices. I guess these days it's easier for her to find what she's looking for...

I think that if she didn't find what she was looking for in any particular composition her staff gave her she wouldn't really hold back and she'll compose it herself if she need fit. She knows it won't be easy but she used to do it anyway.

The odds were always against her because she didn't have a musical background, and it was probably tough, but it didn't stop her. I think if she needed to compose again, she certainly would.
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Old 12th April 2010, 04:26 PM
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well none of her CREA songs have ever done badly maybe her next million selling album will be one born from 100% ayu inspiration and composition (like I am... and RAINBOW)
Yeah, forgiveness was like... her biggest hit ever!

As I say everytime a thread about this is opened (what happens once a month ), some of her most loved songs are by Crea, but also are some of her most hated...
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Old 13th April 2010, 03:52 AM
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Yeah, forgiveness was like... her biggest hit ever!
that was her overexposure and bad timing, forgiveness still did well in comparison to a lot of her other singles.
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Old 12th April 2010, 09:36 PM
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It's an interesting idea, and I'm not saying it's wrong, but I personally don't believe it. I think her staff has a better idea of what sound/style she wants, after working with her so closely/constantly, so they know what to go for -- thus she doesn't feel as compelled to do it all herself. She still picks the songs personally, or tells the arrangers/composers what she's looking for, but she might feel like what they produce is precisely the sort of sound she's aiming for.

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I think she did that most when she just couldn't find something someone else created that fit her vision enough.
Yup -- I seem to remember Ayu saying herself that this was the reason she took up composing -- nothing she was given really "fit" what she was looking for, so she took it upon herself to create that desired sound.
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Old 13th April 2010, 04:05 AM
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It's an interesting idea, and I'm not saying it's wrong, but I personally don't believe it. I think her staff has a better idea of what sound/style she wants, after working with her so closely/constantly, so they know what to go for -- thus she doesn't feel as compelled to do it all herself. She still picks the songs personally, or tells the arrangers/composers what she's looking for, but she might feel like what they produce is precisely the sort of sound she's aiming for.
That's what I think too! She doesn't feel like composing anymore, because her staff knows the music she likes and the sound she's aiming for

Also, she lost her hearing at the end of 2007ish, GUILTY era, right? And she slowly started composing less right after RAINBOW. Three CREA compositions on Memorial Address and MY STORY and only one on (miss)understood, which could've been different if GEO wasn't involved. No compositions on Secret (maybe because it was rushed), but she's been slowly composing less and less (and now not at all)

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Old 13th April 2010, 04:16 AM
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That's what I think too! She doesn't feel like composing anymore, because her staff knows the music she likes and the sound she's aiming for

Also, she lost her hearing at the end of 2007ish, GUILTY era, right? And she slowly started composing less right after RAINBOW. Three CREA compositions on Memorial Address and MY STORY and only one on (miss)understood, which could've been different if GEO wasn't involved. No compositions on Secret (maybe because it was rushed), but she's been slowly composing less and less (and now not at all)
as far as I can recall, she only announced she had lost her hearing in 2008, she'd been losing it for a number of years (I think since 2000)

This whole idea is kinda ridiculous :l Composition has nothing to do with hearing. One of the most famous and brilliant composers in the whole world was completely deaf :l

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Old 13th April 2010, 01:53 PM
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i still think this is a conspiracy :| it makes no sense whatsoever..
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Old 15th April 2010, 03:36 AM
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i still think this is a conspiracy :| it makes no sense whatsoever..
He wasn't completely deaf all his life
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Old 14th April 2010, 01:00 AM
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This whole idea is kinda ridiculous :l Composition has nothing to do with hearing. One of the most famous and brilliant composers in the whole world was completely deaf :l

LOL I was gonna write: "Tell it to Beethoven..." You already stated it ^^
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