[YouTube] You & Me (Youtube Edit)

[Delicious n Bold]

This song now makes me view A Song for XX (album) as a masterpiece. Oh, that felt good.
You & Me is a good song, but Ayu can do WAY better. Honestly, after thinking about it, the song is just bleah. The lyrics are nothing compared to some of the lyrics on A Song for XX album (seriously, who WOULD buy that album other than for the lyrics? I tell myself that, when I understand the lyrics, I will fall in love with the album). Kinda makes me sad, actually.

I initially viewed this song in a high regard, and that was because I was high on electro/techno/dance/disco crap. Now, I'm slowly moving back to Ayu and her angsty ways (which I love). It's all Angela Aki's fault. Ever since I listened to her new album, I've gone back to a more organic sound. Now looking at You & Me, it's really generic and nothing new. Now, I DO like songs that aren't exactly bringing anything new to the table AND I love old-sounding music (I'm a Tommy february6 fan and don't say her music doesn't sound like it comes from the 80s-90s). But this song kind of sounds like a dated reject that nobody loved.

*don't mind me being blunt, if I may come across as being blunt*
At this point in my life, I would say I am a genuine fan of Ayu. I was pumped for Party Queen and I was fanboying all over this song when it first came out. But this song just makes her look awful imo. That, and the covers. What happened to Ayu? Her lyrics (as shown in this song) sounds like she wrote them on the toilet! And that one verse... Oh god, why? The entirety of the lyrics sound like fairyland and BLUE BIRD had a reject baby or something. I'm not criticizing because I hate Ayu or something. I'm criticizing because I KNOW for a fact that she can make better. The masterpiece that is Memorial Address just side-eyes this release. Heck, almost every Ayu release (save for FIVE) side-eyes this. I even like the MOON covers more than the covers for A SUMMER BEST, and I despise the MOON covers. Even the (miss)understood CD only cover is laughing at the A SUMMER BEST covers.

I also like Tetsuya Komuro's music. Not a huge fan, but I like it. Songs like White Key (ami suzuki) and Namie's debut album are really nice. The majority of his compositions from Love songs are just amazing. I loved how Love songs sounded dated. It wasn't a bad thing and it worked in its favour. But this song... I don't even know what to say.

Just because you CAN, DOES NOT mean you SHOULD. Ayu, from someone who really loves your music and listens to it A LOT, you NEED to take a year off and listen to I am..., RAINBOW, Memorial Address, MY STORY, Secret, and even Loveppears over and over again. Those albums are infinitely better than Party Queen (as much as I like it) and this song. No matter how bumpy the road, I'll stay with you. But it doesn't mean I won't constructively criticize your work. I hope that Tales of Xillia song is good... Fast guitars remind me of evolution

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

This song now makes me view A Song for XX (album) as a masterpiece.

When you say that you view A Song for XX as masterpiece, I know that you actually hate the song . I agree with you I hope she delivers an epic track for ToX. I NEED evolution part 2, M part 2 or just a baby from those two.

Something like HEAVEN actually, but way more kickass. Though I highly doubt she'll ever reach that level again.

[primavera♥]

Lol I think if ayu made a part 2 to anything and tried to incorporate that original sound, people would just be disappointed. I doubt that will make anything better. That's just how I feel though

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

Spoiler:

This song now makes me view A Song for XX (album) as a masterpiece. Oh, that felt good.
You & Me is a good song, but Ayu can do WAY better. Honestly, after thinking about it, the song is just bleah. The lyrics are nothing compared to some of the lyrics on A Song for XX album (seriously, who WOULD buy that album other than for the lyrics? I tell myself that, when I understand the lyrics, I will fall in love with the album). Kinda makes me sad, actually.

I initially viewed this song in a high regard, and that was because I was high on electro/techno/dance/disco crap. Now, I'm slowly moving back to Ayu and her angsty ways (which I love). It's all Angela Aki's fault. Ever since I listened to her new album, I've gone back to a more organic sound. Now looking at You & Me, it's really generic and nothing new. Now, I DO like songs that aren't exactly bringing anything new to the table AND I love old-sounding music (I'm a Tommy february6 fan and don't say her music doesn't sound like it comes from the 80s-90s). But this song kind of sounds like a dated reject that nobody loved.

*don't mind me being blunt, if I may come across as being blunt*
At this point in my life, I would say I am a genuine fan of Ayu. I was pumped for Party Queen and I was fanboying all over this song when it first came out. But this song just makes her look awful imo. That, and the covers. What happened to Ayu? Her lyrics (as shown in this song) sounds like she wrote them on the toilet! And that one verse... Oh god, why? The entirety of the lyrics sound like fairyland and BLUE BIRD had a reject baby or something. I'm not criticizing because I hate Ayu or something. I'm criticizing because I KNOW for a fact that she can make better. The masterpiece that is Memorial Address just side-eyes this release. Heck, almost every Ayu release (save for FIVE) side-eyes this. I even like the MOON covers more than the covers for A SUMMER BEST, and I despise the MOON covers. Even the (miss)understood CD only cover is laughing at the A SUMMER BEST covers.

I also like Tetsuya Komuro's music. Not a huge fan, but I like it. Songs like White Key (ami suzuki) and Namie's debut album are really nice. The majority of his compositions from Love songs are just amazing. I loved how Love songs sounded dated. It wasn't a bad thing and it worked in its favour. But this song... I don't even know what to say.

Just because you CAN, DOES NOT mean you SHOULD. Ayu, from someone who really loves your music and listens to it A LOT, you NEED to take a year off and listen to I am..., RAINBOW, Memorial Address, MY STORY, Secret, and even Loveppears over and over again. Those albums are infinitely better than Party Queen (as much as I like it) and this song. No matter how bumpy the road, I'll stay with you. But it doesn't mean I won't constructively criticize your work. I hope that Tales of Xillia song is good... Fast guitars remind me of evolution

Someone's had an epiphany regarding their fandom?

Anyway, as much as people say that, I personally don't think anyone can know for sure that ayu can do better. Especially since "better" is just what appeals to one's subjective taste and what not. But that's also okay to me since people get over disappointment.

And idk how the lyrics make an album worth buying. "Music" can be wonderful without good lyrics but good lyrics don't make good music imo. For me, good lyrics are something extra and very very nice. For me, music is one thing. Poetry and lyrics and such is another. Interesting how you feel that way about ASFXX though. Sorry if I overanalyzed what you said lol. I thought that was a great album, without You & Me proving it lol.

[Delicious n Bold]

Originally Posted by primavera♥

And idk how the lyrics make an album worth buying. "Music" can be wonderful without good lyrics but good lyrics don't make good music imo. For me, good lyrics are something extra and very very nice. For me, music is one thing. Poetry and lyrics and such is another. Interesting how you feel that way about ASFXX though. Sorry if I overanalyzed what you said lol. I thought that was a great album, without You & Me proving it lol.

To be honest, I am not a huge fan of lyrics (except Ayu's). I just listen to the melody more than 90% of the time. With songs like HEAVEN and HANABI, they make me teary eyed because of the lyrics and melody. This song's lyrics (You & Me), I find them awful. In that case, I can't even listen to the song. The melody also has gotten to me... My friend and I argued about lyrics and their importance. He said he needs them, I said I don't. Whenever I listen to Japanese music, half the time I will never know the lyrics unless I look them up or I listen VERY carefully. Most of the time, I don't even care. Therefore, lyrics have no huge meaning for me (except as stated before). It's my fault for looking up the lyrics to this song. Upon seeing the translation and that awful verse, I just couldn't. Lyrics are also extra to me (except in extreme cases like HEAVEN and HANABI). Even the song feel the beat by Ami Suzuki is alright. She repeats the same line over and over like its out of style but its alright with me. All I can do now is huff and cling to Memorial Address like there's no tomorrow.

As for ASFXX, I'm not a big fan because Ayu just sounds like a dying shrew/hyena/cow/insert random animal here. 1.4 million people bought it anyway XD. I may... one day. I would rather buy a new copy, if anything. There are better sounding debut albums. But I know for a fact that they made the fact that Ayu wrote the lyrics a big deal. Many Japanese people still love A Song for XX (song) because it's so relatable. (personally, I listen to the A BALLADS version. the arrangement and Ayu's voice are tolerable). I only like the song Poker Face, but I've moved on from that song since I've discovered her entire discography.

[primavera♥]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

To be honest, I am not a huge fan of lyrics (except Ayu's). I just listen to the melody more than 90% of the time. With songs like HEAVEN and HANABI, they make me teary eyed because of the lyrics and melody. This song's lyrics (You & Me), I find them awful. In that case, I can't even listen to the song. The melody also has gotten to me... My friend and I argued about lyrics and their importance. He said he needs them, I said I don't. Whenever I listen to Japanese music, half the time I will never know the lyrics unless I look them up or I listen VERY carefully. Most of the time, I don't even care. Therefore, lyrics have no huge meaning for me (except as stated before). It's my fault for looking up the lyrics to this song. Upon seeing the translation and that awful verse, I just couldn't. Lyrics are also extra to me (except in extreme cases like HEAVEN and HANABI). Even the song feel the beat by Ami Suzuki is alright. She repeats the same line over and over like its out of style but its alright with me. All I can do now is huff and cling to Memorial Address like there's no tomorrow.

As for ASFXX, I'm not a big fan because Ayu just sounds like a dying shrew/hyena/cow/insert random animal here. 1.4 million people bought it anyway XD. I may... one day. I would rather buy a new copy, if anything. There are better sounding debut albums. But I know for a fact that they made the fact that Ayu wrote the lyrics a big deal. Many Japanese people still love A Song for XX (song) because it's so relatable. (personally, I listen to the A BALLADS version. the arrangement and Ayu's voice are tolerable). I only like the song Poker Face, but I've moved on from that song since I've discovered her entire discography.

So because you feel that you & me has awful lyrics you can't listen to it? But I understand the rest of what you're saying. I love ayus lyrics. These aren't the best. I love lyrics in general though and you don't. I think many other artists have good lyrics.

In regards to ASFXX I don't mind the voice as I've always found ayu's voice a bit strange and more difficult to listen to. Especially from ASFXX to I am... (For me)....it's funny though. Poker face is one of the ones that I don't care for as much lol. I love the A BALLADS version of ASFXX but this is more ot lol sorry

______________
I don't have problems with you & me's lyrics though I undrstand people's issues with their simplicity I guess.

[Corvina]

Originally Posted by primavera♥

And idk how the lyrics make an album worth buying. "Music" can be wonderful without good lyrics but good lyrics don't make good music imo. For me, good lyrics are something extra and very very nice. For me, music is one thing. Poetry and lyrics and such is another.

I think the same.
Music and vocals are important to me, good lyrics are just a plus.
Bad lyrics can destroy a song, but they have to be really bad to get me to this point. On the other hand good lyrics can't save a bad song for me.
Normally with Ayu the songs I love have both - and the songs I dislike are missing both for me.
Just like with You & Me, I don't care much for the song and the lyrics.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

I'm criticizing because I KNOW for a fact that she can make better.

Welcome to the party